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#1562152
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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That said, I’m happy with what I’ve seen so far, up to halfway through movie 3. Got some notes for areas to tweak and polish, but nothing massively jarring yet, so I’m happy overall with these workprints as an initial version for the early adopters. I might play around a little with the timing at the start of movie 3, just to smooth out the early time jump (Andor from Ferrix to Niamos) a little better. I think I can use Syril’s montage and “you’ve been working at the Bureau of Standards less than a month” for this.

I might also move Blevin establishing the Ferrix base back to movie two - it doesn’t add too much value here, and is slightly contradicted by a line of Maarva’s in movie 3 and a line said to Blevin in movie 2.

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#1561813
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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Movie #4 complete!

That’s available now. I’ve sent links to everyone I’ve already sent 1-3 to. PM me for links if you’d like them.

Like the earlier ones, this one’s got a lot of new transitions in it, so please point out anything that doesn’t work for you and I’ll get to fixin’!

Please enjoy!

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#1561792
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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Yes, there’s definitely a little lost in having to continue directly from the ‘mic drop’ moments from the end of original episodes, and a little additional reordering or rescoring might be valuable there. I’ll take any suggestions there as I do any more polish. I’d be interested to know what other Andor edits have done with those moments, if anyone’s aware.

The workprint for movie 4 is rendered, so that’s uploading now. Should be a couple of hours at the most.

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#1561745
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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In a pleasant suprise, I had less work to do on the second half of movie four - I’d over-cut it while I was working on the reordering, so most ‘new transitions’ weren’t new at all, and I was able to just use the original ordering in a lot more places. So the job is done!

That’s movie 4 (of 4) rendering now, folks!

I hope to have it with you in a few hours once it’s checked and uploaded.

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#1561735
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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I think ‘Announcement’ is probably our strongest name yet for movie two, following the theme of ‘what people in-universe call things’.

I’m also pleased to report I’m over halfway through all the necessary transitions for movie #4! Had a couple of messy bits that needed a bit more restructuring, but I’ve got it all playing out nice and smooth now! As with movie 3 there’s a little bit of implicit time passing between some scenes (Dedra says “I’m off back to Coruscant” then there she is, for example), but it’s necessary for the flow and I don’t think it’s problematic. (In that example instance I think it really fits anyway, due to the way the dialogue carries through smoothly.)

For that running tally of absolute minimum cuts, I’ve had to cut twelve more frames for audio blend pacing, plus six seconds of Kleya walking plus a few more seconds of Bik’s cell window, though in the latter case I’ve found a really lovely opportunity to include what might otherwise have been an orphaned scene.

I feel like I’ve got this all very smooth. Where I have the option, I’ve been trying to match scenes as nicely as possible to maintain flow. I’ve got some nice smooth transitions that weren’t in the original episodes - things like Syril being frustrated with his food bowl transitioning into Melchi enjoying prison food from his bowl, and people walking offscreen in one scene matching footsteps with people walking onscreen in the next scene. I feel like I’m really doing it justice, which is important to me.

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#1561656
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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I do like Sacrifice a lot, but for the project I was thinking something more descriptive than artistic, because I like people to know what they’re getting. I’d go with ‘Andor: The Movie Structure’ but I don’t want to disparage or compete with others who have already converted it into movies. Perhaps just ‘A Movie Series Restructure’, since that’s the most direct and honest. Or even something more unwieldy like ‘All Movies; Nothing Cut’. This project exists solely for people who think “Please don’t edit Andor, it’s perfect… I’d take it as movies though.”

That said, I’ll call movie four ‘Sacrifices’ for sure, for Luthen, Kreegyr, Vel and Cinta’s relationship, and Mon('s daughter). Plus Maarva’s death being the trigger.

What about movies one and two? For one I’d go ‘Fugitive’ but he’s not quite that. A few characters have something they desperately want in this one, but I can’t think of a word for that. There are also a few dissidents, or wrenches in the machine- people operating out of the normal bounds of what is required or expected. Plus the flashbacks to a tribal way of living interrupted by outside influence.

(‘Excession’ is a lovely not-quite word I could use here, borrowed lovingly from sci-fi author Iain M Banks, who uses it to mean both people exceeding their bounds/remit and a culture having to deal with an ‘Outside Context Problem’ of an external civilization they can’t possibly comprehend.)

Movie two is the Aldhani heist, Mon’s domestic troubles, and Dedra’s workplace conflict. But it’s also the triggering/inciting event- later called the “Announcement”.

I’m not intending to treat these names as something formal enough that it needs hardcoding visually into the movies themselves, just their labels really.

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#1561638
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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Links coming your way guys.

And that’s movie 3 rendering now, after which I’ll upload it - but I probably won’t be able to share links till the morning. I’m very happy with all the audio transitions, I think they really work and match the spirit of the original. This movie’s far more complex so I’m calling it a workprint for now until I’m sure I’ve crushed any bugs.

Speaking of which, I wonder what to call these individually?
I’d like to call movie 3 ‘Prisoners’ since that works for Andor, Mon, and Syril. But I’ve no idea what to call the others.

Movie 4 should take less time than a day, since it’s got about 60% of the transitions of movie 3, but I might have to work on it piecemeal through the week.

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#1561619
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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Coming your way bud.

If anyone has any ideas for a name for this subfranchise, let me know. And any simple poster art would be welcomed.

I could just call it ‘Andor: Refocused’, to keep it on brand, but I don’t really have a strong feeling. ‘Andor: Four Movies, Nothing Removed’ could also be useful to illustrate what it is. My current project working title is simply AndorByFour, but at the end of the day this’ll be nine things.

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#1561614
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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By the way, I’m not doing anything special to ‘moviefy’ the format of these. It’s the standard TV Lucasfilm and Star Wars franchise logos, then the Andor logo, straight into the episodes, and regular end credits. Once season two comes out I’ll probably just stitch those into movies using the same format. So you’ll basically have eight movie-length episodes, then Rogue One. But if anyone has any ideas/VFX skills for sprucing these up a bit so they can all be packaged as an ennealogy (thanks ildiem) of more movie-like movies I’d happily present these all as a single nine-film subfranchise.

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#1561604
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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Movie two is uploading. Movie three is taking a bit longer to smooth since it has so many transitions. I’ve done about a third, but I’m very happy with the quality of all of them so far - I’ve been able to emulate a lot of the long drawn-out musical pieces across multiple scenes that the original did. I definitely feel like I’m capturing the spirit of this. Coming soon!

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#1561514
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Andor: The Movie Omnibus (Four Movies; Nothing Removed) [COMPLETE!] - Thanks to NFBisms!
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I’ve had a massively successful day, and it looks like this definitely works, so I’ll have it released very soon.

I’ve completed the work to move all of the scenes around to make all of the storylines work within contained movies, and I haven’t had to cut a single frame so far. I’ve cut one minor background line, and literally one redundant word from one line of dialogue, just to ensure I could use every shot and scene. I must have moved perhaps sixty scenes, but you’d never notice because it doesn’t interrupt the plot (generally cutaways just replace other cutaways). I avoided cutting particularly smooth transitions between unrelated scenes, to maintain as much of the show’s original flow as possible.

All I need to do now is spend time on the smoothing out the audio between shots, which has proven far easier than expected, since the scenes are usually so long that they have plenty of padding before dialogue and major SFX. There might be the odd difficult transition which necessitates minor trims, but I’ll keep them to an absolute minimum. I want this edit to be invisible, and keep absolutely as much of the original as possible.

I’ve managed to execute the full plan as outlined above:

  • The first movie (1h40) is the first three episodes, just smoothed together. I didn’t touch the flashbacks since they’re well integrated into the story, and moving them would have been unnecessary and beyond the original vision.
  • The second movie (2h) is the full Aldhani heist, with only very light rearranging to enable the smoothing. Luthen introduces the audience to Mon Mothma, and we follow her personal issues only (husband and daughter) up until the ending where we see how unsatisfied she is with how the Empire operates. Syril is only used in one scene to introduce us to Blevin, and we then follow Dedra’s story within the ISB and her conflict with Blevin in particular. We see no more of Syril, and none of Ferrix. I added two brief scenes from the orphaned episode seven into the ending, of Cinta seeing the Empire arrive on Aldhani, as part of this movie’s wrap-up scenes.
  • The third movie (2h5m) contains a lot of restructuring. It begins in the immediate aftermath of Aldhani, showing the reactions of the ISB, Luthen, and Mon. Blevin establishes the Ferrix base, which sets up the tensions felt there by the locals and Maarva when Andor visits. The initial Dedra plot focuses just on the Imperial reaction to Aldhani (including increased prison sentences) which gets Andor captured fairly early. During this early period, Syril re-enters the story (having functionally skipped the last movie), arriving at Coruscant, meeting his mother, and getting the intelligence job. He comes to the attention of Dedra while Andor’s getting acquainted with Narkina 5. Then there’s a small time jump (Andor spends ‘30 shifts’ in prison), after which we follow Mon becoming more rebellious via her interactions with Tay Kolma and her cousin Vel. Near the end of the episode we find that Syril has been stalking Dedra, and the full prison escape plays out. We don’t see Andor making landfall, cutting instead from the water escape to the Death Star being built to close out the episode. This one took a HUGE amount of work to replace all the non-Narkina content that I’d moved to movie four (so that it wasn’t just a torrent of prison scenes in the second half), but it really works.
  • The fourth movie (2h10m) also contains masses of restructuring. It begins with Maarva’s sickness, which kicks off many plots. Vel and Cinta meet on Ferrix and struggle to make their relationship work, but Vel leaves while Cinta stays to spy. Bek tries to contact Andor about his mother, which makes Luthen try to get Saw and Anto Kreegyr working together. Dedra has Bek captured, and tortures her for information on Andor and Kreegyr, while a frustrated Kleya meets Vel on Coruscant to put the kill order on Andor (so that threat overhangs his return). Tay Kolma sets Mon Mothma up with Davos, and we follow the ‘pimp my daughter’ storyline throughout. Dedra returns to Coruscant and continues to follow Andor and Kreegyr, and as she closes in on Kreegyr, Lonnie (the ISB spy) reports that to Luthen, prompting Luthen’s amazing monologue. He concludes that with “I need all the heroes I can get”, after which we finally smash-cut to Andor on the run on Narkina 5 (I might add TIE fighter SFX to this shot). Maarva dies, turning all eyes to Ferrix. Luthen and Saw agree to sell out Kreegyr, and the funeral occurs, drawing everything together into the season’s major conflict. Mon realises she’s in deep, and Andor convinces Luthen to hire him instead.

I’m really happy with this structure. Just gotta smooth it all out and we’ll be golden!