Ed Slushie

In Revenge of the Sith, what if Anakin had decided to stay at the Jedi Temple while Palpatine was arrested?

After being disarmed, Palpatine goes through all the same motions: “I can’t hold on any longer,” “I’m too weak,” “Please don’t kill me,” and other things to make him seem defenseless. But, like in the movie, Mace ignores them and decides to kill Darth Sidious right then and there. Darth Sidious lets him, because OOPS Mace just killed the lord of the Sith in an act of anger! You see, I believe this was the backup plan all along. The sacrifice is complete; the Sith Lords now possess the body of one of the strongest Jedi Masters currently living.
“Mace Windu” returns to the Jedi Temple and tells Anakin the following story: Palpatine confessed immediately to consorting with the Sith, but denied being - or knowing the true identity of - Darth Sidious, before being placed under house arrest under the supervision of three Jedi (Tin, Fisto, and Kolar - the three Jedi that were just killed in combat). Hours later, the bodies of Palpatine and the three Jedi are discovered, along with doctored security footage showing a cloaked figure killing them.
From this, the story that gets reported is that Palpatine was privately working to investigate the Sith, but was assassinated by them before he could expose their secrets. He was already popular, and now he’s a martyr. As suggested, the Jedi Council is forced to take control of the senate in order to secure a peaceful transition. At the same time as all this, Commander Gree is ordered to kill Yoda, and because no other Jedi have died, Yoda is unable to sense the danger and is successfully assassinated (Everyone is told he died in battle). So-called “Mace Windu” is now head of the Senate AND Jedi Grand Master. Obi-Wan is sent to Mustafar to negotiate with the Seperatist leaders, but the whole thing is blown up with him inside. The two greatest threats to Palpatine have now been eliminated.
But with the Jedi now the seat of Palpatine’s power, whom can he use as a scapegoat to explain the assassinations? Crimson Dawn. He has the republic army find and kill Darth Maul, and everyone is told that Maul was the Sith master behind the whole thing. In this timeline, this is the “attempted coup” used to justify forming a Galactic Empire. Padme, disgusted, resigns from the Senate.
Before Anakin can begin asking too many questions, “Mace Windu” gives him a book that was supposedly given to him in Palpatine’s will: it claims to contain ancient Sith secrets on cheating death. They’re all stuff Palpatine made up, but Anakin will think they work because Palpatine will simply decide not to kill Padme. He also claims that he found out about Anakin’s marriage, and thus Anakin is expelled from the Jedi Order - but because the war is over, Obi-Wan is gone, and Padme is seemingly saved, Anakin doesn’t mind at all and takes the opportunity to leave his old life behind.
The Skywalker family lives happily ever after… but at what cost?

I honestly spent way too long writing this.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Han Paxton Solo? You made that one up? I guess it sounds nice. I came up with the name Geraltin Snoke. Still need a name for Dooku. No, not Count, or Duke, or anything of that nature, for you people repeating tired jokes.

How about “Coriolis?”

For kicks.

StarkillerAG said:

idir_hh said:

Hal 9000 said:

The music. I also am not a fan of using Burning Homestead for the third time, but we just couldn’t find any other music to fit the moment.

Duel of the fates? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

It wouldn’t fit. It’s supposed to be a triumphant moment when the Force Ghosts rise up against Palpatine, and a cue originally intended for a battle scene wouldn’t really fit that.

Hal already added a minor repeat of DOTF during Rey and Kylo’s duel, so it isn’t really necessary to play it again.

What about Leia’s Theme? I know Leia isn’t there, but The Empire Strikes Back used Yoda’s theme during action scenes involving Luke to symbolize how he had learned from Yoda, so since Leia taught Rey it might be a cool parallel. Not to mention, Leia’s Theme is one of the best pieces of music ever written.

Cinefy said:

Knight of Kalee said:
The disc / suite version of Battle of the Heroes features a subtler beginning and ending section that don’t appear in Episode III. Maybe those parts could feature somewhere.

Hal isn’t really interested in adding any of the prequel music, which I respect since It’s his edit. Lets just be lucky we got DOTF and R2/3PO theme in, Lol. (I did find a really nice hyperspace theme from Attack of the clones that worked really well over one scene, but probably no point sharing it)

Just use the Redux Ideas Thread.

So Starkiller base escapes and IS Exegol…
That sounds interesting.

Can I also have a link?

Streaming services like Hulu and Netflix only offer a very small selection of Jeopardy episodes, and even those are mostly specials, like Teen Tournament and Greatest of All Time. It seems almost impossible to find recordings of regular episodes, even from the most recent seasons. I don’t want to go into too much detail for privacy reasons, but my friend competed in an episode from season 33 and we’d love to be able to watch it again.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Ed Slushie said:

thebluefrog said:

Always found it weird Lucas did NOT do anything like that with Anakin when introducing him. Having the most mythological important character’s first visual appearance walking around a shop seems so mundane.

Luke’s first appearance was pretty mundane too. I think it was intentional in both cases, to show that greatness comes from humble origins.

Agreed, but at least with Luke we were told about him before he went off on his journey. His feelings of being trapped, not being able to escape, wanting to join his friends, wanting to join the rebellion, etc. With Anakin, we don’t really get anything. Not any idea that he longs to be a jedi, or leave where hes at, or that he lives a horrible slave life that differs from Lukes safe life with his uncle.

Anakin needs a broom boy moment staring at a duel sunset as ships are leaving the planet i think, before he meets Quigon and gang. Would help when he calls out Quigon as being a Jedi.

I hadn’t thought about it like that, but that makes sense.

thebluefrog said:

Always found it weird Lucas did NOT do anything like that with Anakin when introducing him. Having the most mythological important character’s first visual appearance walking around a shop seems so mundane.

Luke’s first appearance was pretty mundane too. I think it was intentional in both cases, to show that greatness comes from humble origins.

thebluefrog said:

Unfortunately 2020 deepfake tech isn’t remotely good enough to replace the lego cartoon…in fact it would probably be easier to remake the entire TFA movie in Lego, haha.

YOU LAUGH NOW

but I have considered it.

And once Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga comes out, and people start making cinematics of the game footage, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tries to recreate the entire saga as a Lego movie.

Shopping Maul said:

NFBisms said:

It’s pretty simple I’d think: Star Wars as a series is about storytelling, and the act of passing stories down. It’s rooted in a fun genre pastiche, with the original film(s) as a classic monomyth set in a storied world. The prequels then set out to deconstruct the ideals inherent in those stories from a more sociopolitical angle (The Empire rooted in capitalism, the classical masculine ideals are problematic, etc.) then the sequels tr(ied) to make sense of it all from a postmodernist perpsective: why are these stories important to us? How do you apply their lessons to real and imperfect people?

On every level, from Luke’s quest to fulfill his father’s legacy, to George’s borrowing of references, to even its cultural impact thereafter - Star Wars is about legends and how we interpret them. How the Jedi interpet their code, how Luke chooses to see his father, how Rey or Kylo see history, and their futures.

imo

I second the above - perfect post! Can’t believe I missed it.

+2

Here’s a link to the alien text that they use in the movies:

https://lingojam.com/AurebeshTranslator

I know we’ve pretty much retired the Ajan Kloss = Naboo idea, but the more I think about it, Ajan Kloss we wouldn’t have to change the canon to make Ajan Kloss into a planet we’ve seen before: On Wookieepedia, there’s no official information as to where Luke’s Jedi Temple (from the flashbacks in TLJ) was located, and given that it was where Luke trained Leia it would make sense for Ajan Kloss to be that same planet.
Can anyone think of a way to make that clearer in the movie?

Thanks!

Does anyone have to link to this? Any version?

StarkillerAG said:

After Rey hears the voices of Jedi past, she then hears the voices of Jedi present and Jedi future, and starts believing in Life Day.

Dammit Starkiller that would actually be cool!

What was the name of the A New Hope edit that smoothed-out all the shots of lightsabers extending?

I know I’m late, but can I get a link to the new version?

Knight of Kalee said:

Ed Slushie said:

Has anyone thought about trying ways to make Endor more visually interesting? I know George Lucas said he hated how every alien planet in the OT looked like a part of Earth, so I feel like if he had had the resources at the time, he might have made it look more like Felucia with the alien plant life. It would be really hard to make something that consistently CG-heavy, but some color correction and changes to establishing shots would probably be enough to give the impression that it’s not just a regular forest.

IlFanEditore’s ROTJ edit color-corrected the Endor scenes to make it look more lush and bright. That’s a good starting point.

Maybe someone could add some bioluminiscent flora to the night scenes in the Endor village? That would make it more alien, more deserving of the “sanctuary moon” adjetive, and less Anywhere, California.

Ajan Kloss from Episode 9 is a worse offender for me in that regard, though.

That’s a good idea. And as for Ajan Kloss, I hadn’t thought about it but maybe that’s what the greenish-yellow tint was for…

Has anyone thought about trying ways to make Endor more visually interesting? I know George Lucas said he hated how every alien planet in the OT looked like a part of Earth, so I feel like if he had had the resources at the time, he might have made it look more like Felucia with the alien plant life. It would be really hard to make something that consistently CG-heavy, but some color correction and changes to establishing shots would probably be enough to give the impression that it’s not just a regular forest.

The movie has an overarching theme of the importance of heroes, and the power that one selfless act has to inspire others.

After Rey force-heals the serpent, she says to BB-8 “I just transferred a bit of life from me to him. You would have done the same.” Then, when BB-8 finds D-0, he transfers him a bit of energy, allowing D-0 to power up and, later, to provide key information about Exegol. So Rey’s good deed inspires another good deed, which leads to an even greater good being done for the galaxy.

Also, just as Anakin sacrificed himself to save someone, all of his descendants ended up doing the same:

• Luke sacrificed himself to save the Resistance
• Leia sacrificed herself to save Ben
• Ben sacrificed himself to save Rey
• Threepio sacrificed his memories to save the galaxy.

That’s why I love Hal’s “For Skywalker” scene: It takes that idea even further.

Mace Windu’s purple lightsaber is symbolic of how he is simultaneously a hero to the galaxy and an antagonist to Anakin.
I mean, I know Samuel L. Jackson asked for it, but remember George Lucas said no initially and only agreed when the time came for reshoots. I think the reason he changed his mind is because he was working on the story for Revenge of the Sith and realized that giving Mace a blue or green lightsaber wouldn’t make sense for the role he played in the story.

dgraham414 said:

Any discrepancies between events in the canon material are just a result of the story being told from two different viewpoints. For example, the last arc of The Clone Wars and the Ahsoka novel do not agree on the conversation Ahsoka had with Maul and the circumstances around their encounter. I believe that the events we see on screen are the correct ones, yet the only reason the novel and the show disagree is that Ahsoka doesn’t remember the events correctly in her telling of the story.
This is also why the Novelizations can sometimes disagree since the story is being told by a different in-universe entity than the movie. A history book can’t be 100% correct all the time. It is not protective to freak out over retcons and contradictions. Instead, gather all the information and decide for yourself whos account of the events was most correct.

To expand on that: R2 is the narrator of the movies, and Leia never kissed Luke - that droid just has a sick sense of humor.

Frame interpolation? Frame interpolation?