Artoo can only communicate in Bill Wurtz’ jingles.
Artoo can only communicate in Bill Wurtz’ jingles.
Artoo can only communicate in Bill Wurtz’ jingles.
I just had an idea. To truly make this the definitive edit, one thing is still missing: we need to edit the book.
I hadn’t thought about it, but I just realized the unintentional symbolism of Anakin’s Lightsaber and a Purple Lightsaber being used together to defeat Palpatine… because that’s what should have happened on Coruscant all those years ago.
To me, it seems ethical as long as the credit for the performance is given to the person acting, not the person whose face is being used. There are plenty of people in real life who have extremely similar faces to one another, and movie studios already look for that sort of thing when re-casting an existing role. It’s about visual continuity; they’re not actually trying to make the audience think they’re the same person. Deepfakes are similar - Rogue One replaced the faces of Guy Henry and Ingvild Deila, in order to make them look like Tarkin and Leia in a New Hope, but they were still the ones listed in the credits. They didn’t claim to have magically de-aged Carrie Fisher or brought Peter Cushing back to life. It should be about the consistency of the character, not the appeal of the actor; which also means an actor’s face should only be used for a role they’ve already played. Otherwise, it’ll end up feeling like those 1970’s movies that cast Bruce Lee lookalikes to make them more appealing to audiences who didn’t know Bruce Lee was dead (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruceploitation).
Here’s something from Attack of the Clones I translated a few years ago:
Stage 1(No translations):
Victory? Victory, you say? Master Obi-Wan, this is not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun, the clone war has.
Stage 2 (English-Spanish-English-Portuguese-English):
Victory? Victoria, you say? Master Obi-Wan, this is not victory. The black side shroud fell. It started, the clone war has.
Stage 3 (English-Spanish-English-Portuguese-English-French-German-English):
The victory? Victoria, you say? Master Obi-Wan, it is not a victory. The black shroud fell. It started, the clone war began.
Stage 4 (English-Spanish-English-Portuguese-English-French-German-English-Italian-Catalan-English-Czech-English-Hungarian-English):
Victory? Victoria, do you say that? Master Obi-Wan, this is not a win. The black coat fell. The beginning of the clone war began.
Stage 5 (English-Spanish-English-Portuguese-English-French-German-English-Italian-Catalan-English-Czech-English-Hungarian-English-Russian-Chinese-English):
Win? Victoria, do you say that? Master Obi-Wan, this is not a victory. The black jacket fell. The beginning of the clone war began.
Stage 6 (English-Spanish-English-Portuguese-English-French-German-English-Italian-Catalan-English-Czech-English-Hungarian-English-Russian-Chinese-English-Japanese-English-Arabic-Engish):
Wins? Victoria, do you have something like that? Mr. Obi - Wan. This is not a victory. A black jacket fell. The beginning of the war of cloning.
conductor? Victoria What are you doing? Mr. Obi Wan is not Jack Black’s victory. Mud Wars Start
I could have sworn I saw someone make a montage of all the Rise of Skywalker trailer footage that wasn’t in the movie. Does anyone have a link to that?
In fact, that sounds like a great idea to set up a different timeline. Instead of going Sith, Anakin is defeated. Killed? Lost? Captured? We don’t know, and the Sith make their revenge easier with 4 Sith Lords instead of 2.
I have a thread for that: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/What-If-Canon-Divergent-Story-Ideas-Thread/id/77156
Idea for a way to tie the saga together: Adding audio from Jedi: Fallen Order and CW03 to the voices-of-Jedi-past scene to make Rey become a Jedi Knight.
Is there a thread for redux ideas that involve the entire saga?
It’s a name that was created for that storyline. Palpatine, much like the term Sith, was used for the OT and its marketing materials. Sidious was treated as his truer name, with Palpatine being more of the disguise.
Not to get too technical, but the name Palpatine was actually first used in the 90’s EU.
No, it was first used in the prologue of the 1976 novelization of Star Wars. So technically the name Palpatine predates any of the films, even if it wasn’t used in a film until 1999.
Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic. Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears (George Lucas [Alan Dean Foster], Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker (paperback; New York: Del Rey, 1976), p. 1, ISBN 0-345-26079-1.)
That’s actually really interesting. Supports both the idea that George Lucas had it planned out (in that he had a good idea as to Palpatine rose to power) and the idea that George Lucas was making it up as he went along (because he hadn’t yet decided that Palpatine was an evil mastermind).
I’m just saying that if the movie came out in theatres that way, it would be confusing. It’s something new and different, with no introduction or setup, being introduced at the last possible moment.
Personally not a fan because of that. I guess the approach I try to make with any edit, fan or for work, is thinking story first, then cool looks. Doing something because it looks cool, even though it makes no sense, is kinda what gave us the mess that is Rise of Skywalker to begin with.
You’re making this way bigger than it actually is. I cannot understand for the life of me why you think this doesn’t make any sense.
Red lightning = more power. Even general audiences could understand that.
Based on what? Why is it more power? Electricity doesn’t work that way, we don’t have red lightning strikes…
It’s a different colour, so it would look like a different power. Where’d it come from? If it’s more powerful, why didn’t he use it before on Luke or Mace?
Well, since a lot of people didn’t ask that same question about the giant, fleet-destroying lightning storm, I think it’s fair to assume it came from him stealing Rey’s and Ben’s life force.
Add Plo Koon’s voice, Ki-Adi Mundi’s voice, Shaak Ti’s voice, Kit Fisto’s voice, and Sassae Tiin’s voice into the Force ghost scene.
I think this is the wrong thread.
Vader never planned to overthrow the Emperor and rule with Luke - he wanted Luke to take his place so he could retire. The Emperor told him that, if he found a younger and more powerful apprentice to replace him, Vader would be given a lower-maintenance suit and a large sum of credits, and allowed to leave the Empire and live independently.
This is more of a starting point than a full-fledged idea, but I was thinking that it might have made more sense if the Sith Eternal established themselves as an enemy of the First Order as well as of the Resistance.
One thing that’s always bothered me about TLJ is how its ending doesn’t really lend itself well to being “Part 2 of 3” because of the fact that all of the remaining conflict can be resolved by one event - Kylo being redeemed. Luke says “the war is just beginning” and Rey says they’re going to “build a rebellion” but I feel like if I were seeking to overthrow a regime run by someone whom I knew personally, whom I had a means of communicating with, and who didn’t 100% believe in what he was doing, then I’d probably put all my resources in persuading him to my side and having a peaceful transition of power. The movie may have shown him doing some terrible things, but it never really convinced me that turning him to the Light Side would be hard enough to justify waging a bloody war instead. So it occurred to me - in order for the movie to redeem Ben while keeping him in power (which is presumably, something we’d want to see because of how much “Supreme Leader Kylo” was built up in the Last Jedi), the Resistance and First Order would have to team up against a common enemy. Kylo could spend most of the movie doing the right things for the wrong reasons, and his return to the light could be more smooth and gradual.
What do you think?
I guess it’s recessive… although I have no idea why that means it wouldn’t show up in a Clone
I just can’t forget the stupid look on his face when he says, “You’ll be safe. I promise.”
Yes, safe on a barren planet as a indentured servant, always desperate for food and fighting for survival.
It just makes zero sense, man. Of course the only explanation, that doesn’t require you to bend over backwards to explain it, is that her parents were selfish people who did not care about her safety.
EDIT: Sorry, not trying to start a debate. Just a thought.
Honestly, I think it thematically makes WAY more sense if Rey’s parents were still just selfish people. That way she has to break the cycle of abuse the same way she has to break the cycle of Sith succession.
In Lego The Force Awakens, the bloody handprint on Finn’s helmet is replaced with a green “splat” from where a villager threw a fruit at him.
Put that in the movie.
If we’re talking about getting really radical, I think the best option would be to cut it all into one movie:
What’s a fandom?
Collective term for internet subcultures composed of fans of a certain property. More information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom
What’s the deal with you?
What compelled you to create a whole new thread just for this one sentence?
Sorry. That was really vague. I’ll update the description.
In my experience, the Star Wars fandom seems far more prone to drama and division than those of other pieces of pop culture. Originaltrilogy.com is a fine place, but those of us who spend a lot of time on YouTube or Reddit have probably seen what I’m talking about.
I can scarcely find a commenter there capable of saying something positive about one aspect of the franchise without condemning another. And that’s not even mentioning the actual bullying and harassment that several cast and crew members have faced.
For years now, I’ve been wondering: what makes people act like that? What, if any, other fandoms have these kinds of issues? And how do we respond to it?
Has anyone thought about a possible way to give the “Master Codebreaker” from TLJ a different introduction? If you think about it, his presence is really the only thing that changes because of the trip to Canto Bight. If he were somehow introduced earlier, like maybe if he were one of the people who tried to desert from the Resistance, then he and Finn and Rose could go straight from the Raddus to the Supremacy and save a lot of time.
In Revenge of the Sith, what if Anakin had decided to stay at the Jedi Temple while Palpatine was arrested?
After being disarmed, Palpatine goes through all the same motions: “I can’t hold on any longer,” “I’m too weak,” “Please don’t kill me,” and other things to make him seem defenseless. But, like in the movie, Mace ignores them and decides to kill Darth Sidious right then and there. Darth Sidious lets him, because OOPS Mace just killed the lord of the Sith in an act of anger! You see, I believe this was the backup plan all along. The sacrifice is complete; the Sith Lords now possess the body of one of the strongest Jedi Masters currently living.
“Mace Windu” returns to the Jedi Temple and tells Anakin the following story: Palpatine confessed immediately to consorting with the Sith, but denied being - or knowing the true identity of - Darth Sidious, before being placed under house arrest under the supervision of three Jedi (Tin, Fisto, and Kolar - the three Jedi that were just killed in combat). Hours later, the bodies of Palpatine and the three Jedi are discovered, along with doctored security footage showing a cloaked figure killing them.
From this, the story that gets reported is that Palpatine was privately working to investigate the Sith, but was assassinated by them before he could expose their secrets. He was already popular, and now he’s a martyr. As suggested, the Jedi Council is forced to take control of the senate in order to secure a peaceful transition. At the same time as all this, Commander Gree is ordered to kill Yoda, and because no other Jedi have died, Yoda is unable to sense the danger and is successfully assassinated (Everyone is told he died in battle). So-called “Mace Windu” is now head of the Senate AND Jedi Grand Master. Obi-Wan is sent to Mustafar to negotiate with the Seperatist leaders, but the whole thing is blown up with him inside. The two greatest threats to Palpatine have now been eliminated.
But with the Jedi now the seat of Palpatine’s power, whom can he use as a scapegoat to explain the assassinations? Crimson Dawn. He has the republic army find and kill Darth Maul, and everyone is told that Maul was the Sith master behind the whole thing. In this timeline, this is the “attempted coup” used to justify forming a Galactic Empire. Padme, disgusted, resigns from the Senate.
Before Anakin can begin asking too many questions, “Mace Windu” gives him a book that was supposedly given to him in Palpatine’s will: it claims to contain ancient Sith secrets on cheating death. They’re all stuff Palpatine made up, but Anakin will think they work because Palpatine will simply decide not to kill Padme. He also claims that he found out about Anakin’s marriage, and thus Anakin is expelled from the Jedi Order - but because the war is over, Obi-Wan is gone, and Padme is seemingly saved, Anakin doesn’t mind at all and takes the opportunity to leave his old life behind.
The Skywalker family lives happily ever after… but at what cost?
I honestly spent way too long writing this.