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Ed Slushie

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#1367026
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What is the main Star Wars Saga about?
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Shopping Maul said:

NFBisms said:

It’s pretty simple I’d think: Star Wars as a series is about storytelling, and the act of passing stories down. It’s rooted in a fun genre pastiche, with the original film(s) as a classic monomyth set in a storied world. The prequels then set out to deconstruct the ideals inherent in those stories from a more sociopolitical angle (The Empire rooted in capitalism, the classical masculine ideals are problematic, etc.) then the sequels tr(ied) to make sense of it all from a postmodernist perpsective: why are these stories important to us? How do you apply their lessons to real and imperfect people?

On every level, from Luke’s quest to fulfill his father’s legacy, to George’s borrowing of references, to even its cultural impact thereafter - Star Wars is about legends and how we interpret them. How the Jedi interpet their code, how Luke chooses to see his father, how Rey or Kylo see history, and their futures.

imo

I second the above - perfect post! Can’t believe I missed it.

+2

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#1366390
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I know we’ve pretty much retired the Ajan Kloss = Naboo idea, but the more I think about it, Ajan Kloss we wouldn’t have to change the canon to make Ajan Kloss into a planet we’ve seen before: On Wookieepedia, there’s no official information as to where Luke’s Jedi Temple (from the flashbacks in TLJ) was located, and given that it was where Luke trained Leia it would make sense for Ajan Kloss to be that same planet.
Can anyone think of a way to make that clearer in the movie?

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#1366082
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Knight of Kalee said:

Ed Slushie said:

Has anyone thought about trying ways to make Endor more visually interesting? I know George Lucas said he hated how every alien planet in the OT looked like a part of Earth, so I feel like if he had had the resources at the time, he might have made it look more like Felucia with the alien plant life. It would be really hard to make something that consistently CG-heavy, but some color correction and changes to establishing shots would probably be enough to give the impression that it’s not just a regular forest.

IlFanEditore’s ROTJ edit color-corrected the Endor scenes to make it look more lush and bright. That’s a good starting point.

Maybe someone could add some bioluminiscent flora to the night scenes in the Endor village? That would make it more alien, more deserving of the “sanctuary moon” adjetive, and less Anywhere, California.

Ajan Kloss from Episode 9 is a worse offender for me in that regard, though.

That’s a good idea. And as for Ajan Kloss, I hadn’t thought about it but maybe that’s what the greenish-yellow tint was for…

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#1366050
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Has anyone thought about trying ways to make Endor more visually interesting? I know George Lucas said he hated how every alien planet in the OT looked like a part of Earth, so I feel like if he had had the resources at the time, he might have made it look more like Felucia with the alien plant life. It would be really hard to make something that consistently CG-heavy, but some color correction and changes to establishing shots would probably be enough to give the impression that it’s not just a regular forest.

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#1366024
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Name Something You Unreservedly Love About The Rise Of Skywalker
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The movie has an overarching theme of the importance of heroes, and the power that one selfless act has to inspire others.

After Rey force-heals the serpent, she says to BB-8 “I just transferred a bit of life from me to him. You would have done the same.” Then, when BB-8 finds D-0, he transfers him a bit of energy, allowing D-0 to power up and, later, to provide key information about Exegol. So Rey’s good deed inspires another good deed, which leads to an even greater good being done for the galaxy.

Also, just as Anakin sacrificed himself to save someone, all of his descendants ended up doing the same:

  • Luke sacrificed himself to save the Resistance
  • Leia sacrificed herself to save Ben
  • Ben sacrificed himself to save Rey
  • Threepio sacrificed his memories to save the galaxy.

That’s why I love Hal’s “For Skywalker” scene: It takes that idea even further.

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#1366017
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Star Wars Headcanons
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Mace Windu’s purple lightsaber is symbolic of how he is simultaneously a hero to the galaxy and an antagonist to Anakin.
I mean, I know Samuel L. Jackson asked for it, but remember George Lucas said no initially and only agreed when the time came for reshoots. I think the reason he changed his mind is because he was working on the story for Revenge of the Sith and realized that giving Mace a blue or green lightsaber wouldn’t make sense for the role he played in the story.

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#1365644
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Star Wars Headcanons
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dgraham414 said:

Any discrepancies between events in the canon material are just a result of the story being told from two different viewpoints. For example, the last arc of The Clone Wars and the Ahsoka novel do not agree on the conversation Ahsoka had with Maul and the circumstances around their encounter. I believe that the events we see on screen are the correct ones, yet the only reason the novel and the show disagree is that Ahsoka doesn’t remember the events correctly in her telling of the story.
This is also why the Novelizations can sometimes disagree since the story is being told by a different in-universe entity than the movie. A history book can’t be 100% correct all the time. It is not protective to freak out over retcons and contradictions. Instead, gather all the information and decide for yourself whos account of the events was most correct.

To expand on that: R2 is the narrator of the movies, and Leia never kissed Luke - that droid just has a sick sense of humor.

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#1365416
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How would you have done the Prequel Trilogy?
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Since Anakin’s fall is supposed to be a dark reflection of Luke’s rise, I would give Qui-Gon a role closer to that of Obi-Wan, and Palpatine the role of Yoda.

Episode 1: Anakin is a Padawan in the Jedi Temple. He never knew his mother; and yet, he’s getting nightmares about her. He asks about this to Master Obi-Wan, who just says Jedi aren’t supposed to have attachments. Anakin goes along with this because he believes in the Jedi teachings. After being called to action by the plot, he somehow meets Qui-Gon, an ex-Jedi who tells him that receiving visions of the parents they never knew is a sign that somebody is especially strong with the force. He goes on to explain how he was expelled by the Jedi council for believing that the Dark Side is not inherently sinister, but could in fact be used for good. Then more plot, the Seperatist Alliance declares war, Qui-Gon dies, and Anakin does some climactic act of heroism… using the Dark Side. He completes the first cycle of his hero’s journey by returning to the Jedi with the knowledge that they might not be trustworthy.

Episode 2: The Tusken Raiders, on behalf of Tatooine, join the separatist alliance. Anakin is working with Obi-Wan and Padme (with whom he’s falling in love) on the political side of the war. They try to keep the fighting to a minimum but Anakin still gets some moments to show he’s proficient in combat. Before long, Anakin is assigned to protect Chancellor Palpatine - who, in their time together, talks to Anakin about power and control, which Anakin believes himself to be lacking because he obeys the Jedi Council. Eventually, Palpatine has some strings pulled to get Anakin assigned to Tatooine, where he discovers the Tusken Raiders have taken several civilians hostage, including Shmi. Palpatine warns Anakin that the Tuskens can’t be reasoned with, but Anakin tries to negotiate rather than freeing the prisoners by force; however, the negotiations fail, and Anakin’s mother is killed. He responds by force-choking the leader.

Episode 3: Anakin is now a General. He claims he is only doing his duty as a Jedi, but he secretly hopes the war goes on forever. He’s still in a covert relationship with Padme, but they’re apart so much that he’s more in love with the idea of Padme than with Padme herself. We also discover he has kept the mask that belonged to the Tusken Raider he killed. Palpatine tells Anakin more of what he wants to hear: the ends justify the means, all that matters is destroying the Separatists, and the Jedi are complicit and must be destroyed. Anakin provides the chancellor with the information necessary to “hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights” but DOES NOT PHYSICALLY KILL ANY OF THEM. Instead, he goes to Mustafar (which is more of an industrial wasteland than volcanic nightmare, but still very hell-ish), wearing the mask which, when combined with his hood, bears resemblance to a certain other mask he is known for wearing. He gives the Seperatist leaders an ultimatum: join the new Empire or die. Most of them agree, but the Tusken raiders are among those that don’t, so Anakin - now Vader - kills them. Anakin then turns on Padme and fights Obi-Wan like in the movie, while Palpatine - instead of dueling Yoda - sets a trap, and blows up the Senate building with Yoda inside. Yoda survives but is crippled, and Palpatine blames the destruction on the Jedi. Anakin gets defeated by Obi-Wan, who presumes his friend dead, and cannot retrieve the body because of the fire that is spreading around them - a fire that started because Anakin tried to shoot force lightning but didn’t have the hang of it. Darth Vader would go on to believe that, if he had only been more focused in his hatred for Obi-Wan, his horrible injuries would never have happened.

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#1365031
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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JakeRyan17 said:

regularjoe said:

Generally agree about the time lock tied in with the beacon.
However.
They have 70 bajillion souped up Star Destroyers hanging out there.
You destroy the beacon…um…they build another one. Or two. Just to be safe.
Unless they’re out of building resouces from crafting 70 bajillion souped up Star Destroyers.

That’s a plot hole written by JJ Abrams and Chris Terrio… luckily Palpatine explodes or something and all the ships blow up too? It’s kinda unclear… They do blow up a few by destroying the canons, but the majority just… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

They get stuck without the navigation signal from the capital ship.

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#1364733
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

Or you haven’t agonized over making it sound good! lol

But yeah, that’s right. Maybe even a half second of that first note from elsewhere could sound all right. I have no idea; maybe I’ll just need to give it a shot when I can.

The song “Dark Knight” off Josh Aker’s soundtrack to the video game “Infinitely Blade” starts with the exact same two notes on what sounds like the same instrument.

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#1364501
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (WIP)
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Brewzter said:

Is it possible to change around the voices Rey hears? It’s frustrating that she hears voices of Jedi who couldn’t preserve themselves past physical death. Keep the voices of Qui-Gon, Kenobi, Yoda, Anakin, and Luke- cut the rest? The gaps might be awkward so other lines from those characters could fill in.

You know there’s a designated Redux ideas thread, right? You don’t need to make everything Hal’s responsibility.

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#1364374
Topic
How would you combine the best parts of the Star Wars franchise into one LOTR-style trilogy?
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Star Wars is a famously massive, expansive universe taking place across multiple eras and every corner of the galaxy. And yet, practically every new thing to come out of the series (at least, every new movie) since Return of the Jedi has been criticized, to some extent, for feeling repetitive. Lately, I’ve been wondering: What if the writers of the original trilogy had somehow had access to the entire canon (Disney and Legends continuities) to draw from for ideas? And, for the sake of the thought experiment, been given unlimited time, money, and technology as well?
How might the trilogy have gone differently?