Ed Slushie

I’ve been thinking, when Finn and Jannah deactivate the tower on the Finalizer, Poe immediately says “nav signal’s down, but not for long” which indicates that they know the “nav-signal” is going to come back soon, and he would only be able to know that if the same were true for the tower on the ground - which was their initial plan. This makes sense, because if they were able to stop the ships from deploying for good, then why would they need Lando & Company to help? It seems like the plan was always to delay the takeoff long enough for help to come and destroy the ships.
So… is there a way to make that clear in the movie itself?

I just had kind of a crazy idea:
What if we use the audio from that deleted scene of Finn confronting Phasma and had him say it earlier - like, when he’s about to be executed? Then the stormtrooper turns around and decapitates Phasma (this wouldn’t need to be shown in too much detail, since the scene is intercut with a lot of other stuff. Maybe just add an animation of the lightning-axe-thing swinging over one of the shots of Phasma turning her head). Then, remove the fight and have Finn and Rose go straight to the shuttle - but while this is happening, repurpose some of the shots from later of stormtroopers running away to make it look like they’re escaping too.
And this is the tricky part - change the conversation between Finn and Jannah in TROS to make it so that she was the executioner.
You could even take it a step further and reinstate the deleted scene of Finn convincing a Stormtrooper to let him go, but edit a black “executioner” stripe onto his helmet, and dub him with a female voice to that it’s also Jannah.

Could I get a link too please?

sade1212 said:

Why can’t she be a Skywalker? I agree that it’s a bit of ham-fisted, predictable writing, and a somewhat odd choice for Rey the character considering her closer relationship to members of the Organa-Solo branch of the family, but given Terrio’s hangup with ‘dynasties’ I can see why they went with her being adopted into Luke’s family specifically, and it doesn’t strike me as being massively implausible or anything.

Not to mention, it makes “Skywalker” the last spoken word of the saga.

One thing that’s always bugged me about the movie, but that I haven’t seen many edits address, is the sequence just before the heroes leave for Pasaana. The music tries to make it feel like it’s one long, emotional scene, when it’s really a series of smaller scenes that don’t quite blend together imo. But I don’t know what to do about this.

• I tried just cutting right from “we go together” to Threepio saying goodbye to Artoo, but then it looks like Threepio is still looking at Rey while he says it.
• I tried cutting the “we go together” scene entirely, but then we lose the only mention of Pasaana.
• I tried rescoring the whole sequence with something more upbeat, but I can’t separate the music from Threepio’s goodbye - and I can’t cut that, because that makes it look like Rey teleported.

Does anyone have any other ideas?

RogueLeader said:

Hmm, I don’t see how any of that would be filmable.

Yeah, and I realize making a composite shot of Rey falling alongside Ben would be impossible because of how much the camera moves.

Hey, so, I remembered a few months ago when some people were discussing the idea of having Ben give Rey his life force before she faces Palpatine instead of after, so that it feels like they’re fighting together. The big problem with this is that it looks like they’re in a different setting because of the debris around them and the fact that Palpatine doesn’t notice what’s happening. So I was thinking, what if Palpatine threw them both into that pit, and Ben healed Rey allowing her to climb out?

Does anybody know what the characters are supposed to be saying here:
https://youtu.be/txLoFqFyr08?t=1850

Rtiller said:

Before realizing that Roundhead Rian wanted to destroy star wars, as I was watching TLJ, I always thought that big reveal was going to be that Luke abandoned Rey on Jakku, to hide/protect her. She was a padwan in his school so didn’t remember her parents (setup in TFA), Kylo was older than her, so he would remember her joining the school. When Kylo and Knights of Ren attacked the school to kill the padwans, Luke was able to gather a few children and escape, one being Rey. So when Rey was looking at the ship, she was sad that Luke left, who was basically her father (…or may her actual father…sounds like JJ Abrams hadn’t decided). But at that point, she could’ve been related to Luke, Obi-Wan, or even Leia still (since all she remembers was Luke at the school, having been adopted by the school very young). Of course, Roundhead Rian destroyed all that.

These movies were popcorn movies; nothing complicated about them. JJ Abrams had it setup to explain why Rey could use the force…

Abrams deliberately had it set up so that any twist could theoretically work. Not matching your headcanon doesn’t make something bad.

One idea that I’ve been thinking about for a while is keeping in Anakin’s “I killed them all” speech, but changing it so that instead of killing the sand people, he just wanted to kill the sand people - but still felt really bad about it because he’s always been taught that anger leads to the dark side.

ELAYEM said:

Has anyone thought about making Rey a padawan “abandoned” by her master? I’m asking that since I was thinking of a way that she could battle Kylo without the justification of her “downloading” Kylo’s training into her mind during the interrogation scene in TFA

The story I was imagining for her with the footage we already have would somewhat go like this:

-Rey is born in Jakku, as the daughter of two selfish jerks
-Her parents then sell Rey to a young woman, a Jedi
-The woman then proceeded to train Rey at a very young age (Rey’s parents on the other hand, already died)
-Years later, Rey’s master learns that Rey was targeted by the Sith and hids her on Jakku (We repurpose footage of Rey’s mother to depict this, while also cutting Rey’s father entirely)
-Rey is left behind by the woman and, blinded by the dark side, kills her master with the use of force lighting
-The traumatic experience is blocked from Rey’s mind and she probably misremembers her master as her true mother

All of this would be implied across the trilogy, with the plot twist in Episode IX being that Rey killed the only person that really cared for her until she met Finn and BB-8

Also, this would erase the feeling that Kylo’s lines in TLJ about Rey’s parents are being retconned in ROS (they would be actually expanded and fleshed out) and would give a better excuse about how Rey can fight (and win) against an experimented force user

Fascinating… I could see that working really well as a twist. The audience had always been made to assume the shot of Rey yelling at a spaceship to “come back” was referring to her parents… but if we found out it wasn’t (assuming you cut the line where Rey explicitly says “my parents were on that ship”) then it would be quite interesting.

https://youtu.be/O5__GjzEmS0?t=6
Does anyone know what trailer this shot of the Sith Troopers is from originally? I found it in this fan-made trailer, but if it were higher quality it would fit into the movie fairly well.

JakeRyan17 said:

I just don’t understand how they’re gonna edit the trilogy to make Kylo an active antagonist at the end. Or is the goal to smooth out the transition from being Snoake’s errand boy to Palpatine’s without ever desiring autonomy?

Personally, I’m not trying to make Kylo an active antagonist, I just don’t want it to feel like his TLJ development is immediately undone. I think if Snoke destroyed the helmet and Kylo reforged it before he found Palpatine, then the symbolism would kind of get reversed - the mask would represent his independence instead of his dependence, and so having him wear it for the first half of TROS might make his character arc seem… smoother, I guess.

Every movie inevitably has shots, even whole scenes, get cut from it despite being shown in the trailers. However, aside from Rogue One, I haven’t seen anybody try to assemble a series of unused shots from a particular movie into one place. That’s why I’m creating this thread.

If anyone wants to post unused shots they found, compare & contrast alternate takes, or restore extended scenes using trailer footage, this is the place (unless a thread like this already exists, in which case please tell me so I can move there).

To kick things off, here’s an alternate take of the TROS crew in the Millennium Falcon, that I found split between two different trailers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxB8UrK9gIA&feature=youtu.be

I think I just realized, when Luke says “if you don’t face Palpatine, it will be the end of the Jedi” he doesn’t mean “Palpatine will destroy the Jedi unless you fight him” he means “You won’t be a true Jedi unless you confront your fear.”

I thought of a few more:

• Rose is dating Lieutenant Connix.
• When Rey gave Kylo Ren his scar, she also cut off his hand - but it was found by Hux in time to reattach it.
• Rey’s mother was a member of the Sith eternal.

EddieDean said:

Oh nice, I didn’t know you were collaborating with other members of these forums. I really liked your Kylo’s scar heal edit, will you be making your shots available for other editors to use in their own edits, like Hal’s TROS Ascendent?

Kylo’s scar heal edit? I must have missed that. Does anyone have a link to it?

I just had an idea: what if we found a way to make it look like Snoke was the one who smashed Kylo Ren’s helmet? He insults the helmet multiple times so it seems like something he would do, and then it would make Kylo reforging his helmet seem like he’s growing rather than regressing.
Maybe, we could even move the scene of him reforging his helmet up to the end of The Last Jedi, as an epilogue/cliffhanger.

The Rise of Skywalker would probably have been great if it had just been an hour longer.

RogueLeader said:

They start running back to the transports, but then they turn around. Rose asks them where they are and tells them to leave without them (which makes my eyes roll, since this is sort of a spit in the face to their interaction at the Battle of Crait. Finn wants to sacrifice himself again and Rose is like “okay”) But then, during Palpatine’s speech to Rey, as they’re watching the Resistance be destroyed, it looks like Finn and Jannah are actually running back toward the transports. But then, next time we see them, they’re standing right next to the turbolaser they were hacking into when he had his convo with Rose. Idk, I guess it is nice for these ex-stormtroopers to have the opportunity to kill their former masters, but this sort of thematically contradicts Finn’s story in TLJ. But I guess if your preferred edit cuts all of that shit out, then it doesn’t matter.

In the novelization, Rose asks Finn what he’s doing and he responds “saving what I love.” I guess she lets him because she understands he’s doing it for the right reasons? Honestly, if that had made it into the movie it probably would have gotten eye rolls for the opposite reason (although I still wish they had left it in because that conversation in the movie was way too short).

TestingOutTheTest said:

I always thought Leia died of old age or something.

The novelization strongly implies that she had been using the force to extend her life since being injured on the Raddus… even though that’s technically a dark-side ability, another reason why it makes more sense for her to have a purple lightsaber.

CPY?

StarkillerAG said:

I actually think it would be much easier to just remove all lines referring to the First Order stormtroopers being taken as children. I think it was just a few lines in TFA that mentioned it, so it should be pretty easy. It would make Finn’s decision to leave seem more unique, as if he was one of the few troopers who didn’t support genocidal fascism. It would also make it less weird that he kills his former comrades without a second thought.

That’s a good idea too. Plus, I feel like knowing that he, at some point, chose to enlist in the First Order would make him feel like he has more of a character.

To be fair, there were some sparks when Poe got stunned in TLJ. Plus there weren’t any sparks when Hux got shot by Pryde, so you could argue that it depends on the material being shot rather than the type of shot used.

Replace Kathleen Kennedy’s name in all of the credits with “Dale Snitterman,” since that’s how a lot of people seem to think of her anyway.