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DuracellEnergizer

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#486609
Topic
What Is Wrong with This Picture?
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TheBoost said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

twooffour said:

Why does Qui-Gon say "no thought of self" right after talking about the possibility of "avoiding oblivion" while retaining consciousness, and DEMONSTRATING THAT HIMSELF WHILE HE'S SPEAKING? 

I think this one at least can slide. Quiggy's talk about "no thought of self" is probably about the absence of desires for material pleasures, possessions, rewards, things like that. 

Of course, the whole retain-your-personality-and-obtain-immortality thing smacks of "thought of self" so ... 

Selflessness and continuing to exist are in now way at odds with eachother.

"Hey Dalai Lama! If you're so selfless how come you're eating that sandwich!?  And give me your shoes!"

There's only a contradiction if we, the fans, chose to intentionally interpret it in a way that is stupid.

We also don't have any systematic rules on how the afterlife works, so this is another example of fans making up rules that don't match the story, and then being angry that they aren't followed.

 Hmm ... perhaps you're right. An active quest for immortality still kind of smacks of "sense of self" to me, but then ... well ... :shrug:

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#486031
Topic
PT Optimism
Time

This isn't really an off-topic topic. That being said, I'll bite.

 

1. John Williams' score

2. Ewan McGregor

3. Natalie Portman (from certain angles, and when she isn't talking)

4. Darth Maul

5. Maul's lightsaber

6. Ian McDiarmid pre-POWA!

7. The idea that the Jedi aren't perfect

8. Jango's armour

9. The idea of Dooku; Dooku the character sucked, though 

10. Mace Windu's lightsaber

11. Grevious' design

12. That Anakin held onto his blue lightsaber after siding with Palpatine

      and used it against Obi-Wan in their duel instead of immediately

      replacing it with a red one

 

 

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#486010
Topic
What Is Wrong with This Picture?
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twooffour said:

Why does Qui-Gon say "no thought of self" right after talking about the possibility of "avoiding oblivion" while retaining consciousness, and DEMONSTRATING THAT HIMSELF WHILE HE'S SPEAKING? 

I think this one at least can slide. Quiggy's talk about "no thought of self" is probably about the absence of desires for material pleasures, possessions, rewards, things like that. 

Of course, the whole retain-your-personality-and-obtain-immortality thing smacks of "thought of self" so ...

 

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#485786
Topic
What Is Wrong with This Picture?
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Sluggo said:

Is the strange fact that Liam Neeson didn't have the time to figure out this secret and yet somehow he knows it anyway?

 

Alexrd

said:

He does say he discovered it when he became one with the Force.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! You're both right! So here's your frosty chocolate milkshakes!

 

Ah, Qui-Gon, you amazing bastard. To have learned how to merge with the Force and retain your personality after passing the point-of-no-return that is death is truly a sign that the midi-chlorians are strong in you. Kudos!

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#485766
Topic
What Is Wrong with This Picture?
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Well, it's not a picture exactly; it's a portion of the ROTS script. There is something iffy about it, though, something very iffy. If you can spot what it is, you'll win a frosty chocolate milkshake!*

 

222 INT. POLIS MASSA-OBSERVATION DOME-NIGHT

On the isolated asteroid of Polis Massa, YODA meditates.

YODA: Failed to stop the Sith Lord, I have. Still much to learn, there is ...

QUI -GON: (V.O.) Patience. You will have time. I did not. When I became one with the Force I made a great discovery. With my training, you will be able to merge with the Force at will. Your physical self will fade away, but you will still retain your consciousness. You will become more powerful than any Sith.

YODA: Eternal consciousness.

QUI-GON: (V.O.) The ability to defy oblivion can be achieved, but only for oneself. It was accomplished by a Shaman of the Whills. It is a state acquired through compassion, not greed.

YODA: . . . to become one with the Force, and influence still have . . . A power greater than all, it is.

QUI-GON: (V.O.) You will learn to let go of everything. No attachment, no thought of self. No physical self.

YODA: A great Jedi Master, you have become, Qui-Gon Jinn. Your apprentice I gratefully become.

 

* The frosty chocolate milkshake is of the spiritual, metaphorical variety, not the literal; if you want a literal milkshake, buy or make one yourself.

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#485426
Topic
the reasons why episodes 7 8 and 9 will/should be made
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WhatsMyName said:

I think they should make movies out of the Darth Bane series. Its dark, emotional and freakin' awsome! Those that love the Sith would definitly love if a movie was made based off these novels.

I can't wait!

 

Darth Bane and the Hunt for the Secret Holocron.

Darth Bane and the Search for the Hidden Holocron.

Darth Bane and the Quest for the Lost Holocron.

 

Yippie!

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#482572
Topic
the reasons why episodes 7 8 and 9 will/should be made
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Any ST Lucas would make would suck just as much as - if not more than - the PT, especially since characters from the OT would undoubtedly feature in it and suffer character derailment in the process. 

Imagine CGI Luke bouncing up and down like a goddamn rabbit on speed, twirling his lightsaber like some luminous green baton. I wouldn't want to see that and neither would you.

The story of the ST exists for me in the EU. If I want to explore the trials and tribulations of the fledgling New Republic and their victory over the Imperial remnants then I'll read some books and comics penned by better writers than ol' Georgy Porgy.