DuracellEnergizer

^Space is warped and time is bendable.

TV's Frink said:

I'll take Threads That Did Not Need To Be Made for $100, Alex.

Indeed. This entire thread could have been a single "Random Thoughts" post. 

DJW said:

Everyone has to remember that King George said that there would be no more movies after the last one, so the EU was all we pretty much had to continue the story. I think it is ridicules for Disney to act like it the EU never happened. 

That ship sailed a long time ago when Lucas made TPM. Why bitch about Disney tossing out the EU now when Lucas himself has been doing it since 1999?

TV's Frink said:

Why isn't Dorthy allowed to marry multiple men?  Or Toto?

Because the Tin Man's gay, the Scarecrow's impotent, the Cowardly Lion's got Down's Syndrome, and Toto refuses to do it any other way but doggy style. 

Thank whatever gods there are that Lucas sold the company before he could. A Lucas-directed ST would have thoroughly murdered the franchise and gangbanged its corpse.

Hal 9000 said:

Personally, I hope Luke is or was married, and has offspring. While it wouldn't be a dealbreaker, I'd hate to see Luke as a celibate monk-type Jedi like in the PT.

Likewise. I'd also like to see Mara Jade show up in the new continuity, even if she ultimately doesn't end up with Luke. 

Tobar said:

Now all future books and comics will share the same level of authority as the films.

Until they change their minds, that is.

BRING MY SHUTTLE!!! BRING MY GODDAMNED, MOTHERFUCKING SHUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's not that I particularly dislike the guy. I just have zero interest in reading books from a guy who is almost certainly a PT fanboy.

Yeah, that stuff's gone and good riddance, too. Nothing ruined the EU more thoroughly than the Legacy era did.

TheBoost said:

I tried reading "Tarkin."

it opens with a chapter describing why Peter Cushing's uniform looked the way it did. Very detailed. Very dull. Stopped reading, went back to library. 

James Luceno is one author whose SW books I'm not even going to bother with in the future.  

There was an old forum? *scratchhead*

^Such a cover is too good for a shitty movie like AOTC.

Frank your Majesty said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Anyone who thinks The Blair Witch Project in a walkoutable movie must be crazy.

 I watched it on DVD and I thought it was alright up to the point where the characters decided it would be totally ok to throw away their map and compass. I immediately lost all empathy for them.

Yeah, but at that point they had run out of food, were trapped in an inescapable pocket universe, and were being hunted by supernatural forces. I think you can cut them some slack. ;-) 

imperialscum said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Anyone who thinks The Blair Witch Project in a walkoutable movie must be crazy.

Of course... because it is not a walkinable film in the first place.

You think "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" is better than "Bring my shuttle", therefore your argument is invalid. 

Voyager looks like some kind of shit. Proof positive that Berman & Braga were two of the three worst things to ever happen to the franchise prior to Abramstrek, I guess.

TV's Frink said:

FanFiltration said:

I was never able to get into comics.

 Fixed that for me.

Philistine!

twister111 said:

Basically pre-2009 movie what was in the official canon before that..... 

Awkward phrasing is awkward.

The conflation of "myth" with "untruth" or "deception" is one of the worst crimes ever perpetrated against the English language.

FanFiltration said:

I was never able to get into the Gold Key Comics.

Tell me about it! The Gold Key comics are what I imagine a Season 4 of TOS would have looked like, with writing so bad that almost every episode would have been of the same calibre as "Spock's Brain".

imperialscum said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

imperialscum said:

Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.

Ah, go back to General Star Wars Discussion, you meshugganah.

I will! Only boring stuff around here.

It's a Dark Jedi, actually, not a Sith Lord. And yes, I realize I'm being pedantic. ;-P

Anyone who thinks The Blair Witch Project in a walkoutable movie must be crazy.

imperialscum said:

Well Frink proclaimed many of the threads to be the worst. But this one is actually the worst.

Ah, go back to General Star Wars Discussion, you meshugganah.

TV's Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Well, here it is -- my personal canon:

THE STAR TREK DIVERGENT UNIVERSE TIMELINE

Obviously, this is my own personal Trek universe with its own distinctive history, so nothing from the Prime Universe is 100% canon within it. However, there are works set in the Prime Universe which I consider spiritually canon. Those spiritually canon works are:

TV SERIES'

ST:TOS

"The Cage"

"Where No Man Has Gone Before"

"The Corbomite Maneuver"

"Mudd's Women"

"The Enemy Within"

"The Man Trap"

"The Naked Time"

"Balance of Terror"

"What Are Little Girls Made Of?"

"Miri"

"The Conscience of the King"

"Shore Leave"

"The Squire of Gothos"

"Arena"

"The Alternative Factor"

"The Return of the Archons"

"Space Seed"

"This Side of Paradise"

"The City on the Edge of Forever"

"Operation: Annihilate!"

"Catspaw"

"Amok Time"

"The Doomsday Machine"

"Wolf in the Fold"

"The Apple"

"Mirror, Mirror"

"I, Mudd"

"The Trouble with Tribbles"

"Journey to Babel"

"A Private Little War"

"The Gamesters of Triskelion"

"The Immunity Syndrome"

"A Piece of the Action"

"By Any Other Name"

"Return to Tomorrow"

"The Ultimate Computer"

"Spectre of the Gun"

"The Enterprise Incident"

"For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky"

"Day of the Dove"

"Plato's Stepchildren"

"That Which Survives"

"Whom Gods Destroy"

"The Lights of Zetar"

"Requiem for Methuselah"

"The Savage Curtain"

"All Our Yesterdays"

"Turnabout Intruder"

ST:TAS

"Yesteryear"

"The Infinite Vulcan"

"The Time Trap"

"The Pirates of Orion"

"Albatross"

"The Counter-Clock Incident"

ST:TNG

"Where No One Has Gone Before"

"The Big Goodbye"

"Datalore"

"11001001"

"The Arsenal of Freedom"

"Where Silence Has Lease"

"Elementary, Dear Data"

"The Measure of a Man"

"The Royale"

"Q Who"

"The Ensigns of Command"

"Booby Trap"

"The Vengeance Factor"

"Deja Q"

"A Matter of Perspective"

"Yesterday's Enterprise"

"The Offspring"

"Allegiance"

"Captain's Holiday"

"Hollow Pursuits"

"The Most Toys"

"The Best of Both Worlds, Part I"

"The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"

"Remember Me"

"Legacy"

"Future Imperfect"

"Final Mission"

"Data's Day"

"The Wounded"

"Clues"

"Galaxy's Child"

"Night Terrors"

"Ensign Ro"

"Silicon Avatar"

"The Game"

"Power Play"

"Ethics"

"Cause and Effect"

"The Next Phase"

"The Inner Light"

"Relics"

"Schisms"

"True Q"

"A Fistful of Datas"

"Chain of Command, Part I"

"Chain of Command, Part II"

"Face of the Enemy"

"Tapestry"

"Lessons"

"Frame of Mind"

"Descent, Part I"

"Descent, Part II"

"Gambit, Part I"

"Gambit, Part II"

"Phantasms"

"Dark Page"

"Attached"

"Parallels"

"Lower Decks"

"Eye of the Beholder"

"Preemptive Strike"

"All Good Things ..."

ST:DS9

Due to how so many of the episodes are interconnected, I accept most of DS9 as canon. There are exceptions though, and they are:

• The Worf/Jadzia romance and marriage
• The Klingon/Worf-centric episodes
• Possibly the O'Brien/Keiko marriage (simply put, I don't like her character very much and always thought O'Brien could have done better)
• The Mirror Universe episodes (the first one being a possible exception)
• Odo turning back into a full Changeling
• Jadzia's death
• the last episode of Season 6 and all of Season 7 (as I haven't watched them, due to the aforementioned death of Jadzia)

ST:VOY

Haven't seen the show, never will, thus nothing of it is canon.

ST:ENT

Same as above.

FILMS

The films are where things get wonky timeline and content wise.

I consider most of TMP canon, but not only have I've combined it with "The Changeling", I've placed it at the end of the five-year mission instead of four years after it. Furthermore, neither Decker nor Ilia are part of the Enterprise crew, so their roles are filled by completely different characters (I won't say whom at this point; that's a part of my canon I wish to reveal at a later date).

I also accept TFF as mostly canon -- the stupider aspects eliminated, of course -- but I place it directly before the events of TMP instead of years after it.

TVH is semi-canonical. I place it before the events of TWOK, and instead of having Kirk & co. travel back to 20th century Earth to rescue humpback whales, they travel to the past of an alien planet to rescue -- for lack of a better term -- alien whales.

In my canon, Spock stays dead after the events of TWOK and the Genesis Planet never goes kablooie. That renders TSFS largely non-canon and places TUC in a hazy gray area.

None of the TNG films are canon.

That leaves TWOK as the only Trek film largely intact as it is within my canon.

COMICS

GOLD KEY COMICS

These gray landing party uniforms that appear in the first issue are definitely part of my personal canon.

Star Trek #15: "Museum at the End of Time"

Star Trek #22: "Siege in Superspace"

Star Trek #26: "The Perfect Dream"

Star Trek #28: "The Mimicking Menace"

Star Trek #30: "Death of a Star"

MARVEL COMICS

Most of Marvel's first series

The first fifteen issues of Early Voyages

Untold Voyages

Star Trek Unlimited #4: "Inheritance"

Star Trek Unlimited #9: "Trekkers"

DC COMICS

Most of DC's first series

Issues 1-12, 34, 42-43, 65-68, 73-75, and Annuals 2 & 3 of DC's second series

Debt of Honor

NOVELS

Thus far, I haven't finished any Trek novels. I'm currently reading Spock Must Die!, my first Trek novel, and suffice it to say, I doubt I'll be adding it to my personal canon.

SHORT STORIES

"A Private Anecdote"

 

You, your rabbit, and your tower can kiss my asp, Frink.

Well, be happy it was never actually executed.