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#746020
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What is your personal Star Trek canon?
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Well, here it is -- my personal canon:

THE STAR TREK DIVERGENT UNIVERSE TIMELINE

Obviously, this is my own personal Trek universe with its own distinctive history, so nothing from the Prime Universe is 100% canon within it. However, there are works set in the Prime Universe which I consider spiritually canon. Those spiritually canon works are:

TV SERIES'

ST:TOS

"The Cage"

"Where No Man Has Gone Before"

"The Corbomite Maneuver"

"Mudd's Women"

"The Enemy Within"

"The Man Trap"

"The Naked Time"

"Balance of Terror"

"What Are Little Girls Made Of?"

"Miri"

"The Conscience of the King"

"Shore Leave"

"The Squire of Gothos"

"Arena"

"The Alternative Factor"

"The Return of the Archons"

"Space Seed"

"This Side of Paradise"

"The City on the Edge of Forever"

"Operation: Annihilate!"

"Catspaw"

"Amok Time"

"The Doomsday Machine"

"Wolf in the Fold"

"The Apple"

"Mirror, Mirror"

"I, Mudd"

"The Trouble with Tribbles"

"Journey to Babel"

"A Private Little War"

"The Gamesters of Triskelion"

"The Immunity Syndrome"

"A Piece of the Action"

"By Any Other Name"

"Return to Tomorrow"

"The Ultimate Computer"

"Spectre of the Gun"

"The Enterprise Incident"

"For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky"

"Day of the Dove"

"Plato's Stepchildren"

"That Which Survives"

"Whom Gods Destroy"

"The Lights of Zetar"

"Requiem for Methuselah"

"The Savage Curtain"

"All Our Yesterdays"

"Turnabout Intruder"

ST:TAS

"Yesteryear"

"The Infinite Vulcan"

"The Time Trap"

"The Pirates of Orion"

"Albatross"

"The Counter-Clock Incident"

ST:TNG

"Where No One Has Gone Before"

"The Big Goodbye"

"Datalore"

"11001001"

"The Arsenal of Freedom"

"Where Silence Has Lease"

"Elementary, Dear Data"

"The Measure of a Man"

"The Royale"

"Q Who"

"The Ensigns of Command"

"Booby Trap"

"The Vengeance Factor"

"Deja Q"

"A Matter of Perspective"

"Yesterday's Enterprise"

"The Offspring"

"Allegiance"

"Captain's Holiday"

"Hollow Pursuits"

"The Most Toys"

"The Best of Both Worlds, Part I"

"The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"

"Remember Me"

"Legacy"

"Future Imperfect"

"Final Mission"

"Data's Day"

"The Wounded"

"Clues"

"Galaxy's Child"

"Night Terrors"

"Ensign Ro"

"Silicon Avatar"

"The Game"

"Power Play"

"Ethics"

"Cause and Effect"

"The Next Phase"

"The Inner Light"

"Relics"

"Schisms"

"True Q"

"A Fistful of Datas"

"Chain of Command, Part I"

"Chain of Command, Part II"

"Face of the Enemy"

"Tapestry"

"Lessons"

"Frame of Mind"

"Descent, Part I"

"Descent, Part II"

"Gambit, Part I"

"Gambit, Part II"

"Phantasms"

"Dark Page"

"Attached"

"Parallels"

"Lower Decks"

"Eye of the Beholder"

"Preemptive Strike"

"All Good Things ..."

ST:DS9

Due to how so many of the episodes are interconnected, I accept most of DS9 as canon. There are exceptions though, and they are:

  • The Worf/Jadzia romance and marriage
  • The Klingon/Worf-centric episodes
  • Possibly the O'Brien/Keiko marriage (simply put, I don't like her character very much and always thought O'Brien could have done better)
  • The Mirror Universe episodes (the first one being a possible exception)
  • Odo turning back into a full Changeling
  • Jadzia's death
  • the last episode of Season 6 and all of Season 7 (as I haven't watched them, due to the aforementioned death of Jadzia)

ST:VOY

Haven't seen the show, never will, thus nothing of it is canon.

ST:ENT

Same as above.

FILMS

The films are where things get wonky timeline and content wise.

I consider most of TMP canon, but not only have I've combined it with "The Changeling", I've placed it at the end of the five-year mission instead of four years after it. Furthermore, neither Decker nor Ilia are part of the Enterprise crew, so their roles are filled by completely different characters (I won't say whom at this point; that's a part of my canon I wish to reveal at a later date).

I also accept TFF as mostly canon -- the stupider aspects eliminated, of course -- but I place it directly before the events of TMP instead of years after it.

TVH is semi-canonical. I place it before the events of TWOK, and instead of having Kirk & co. travel back to 20th century Earth to rescue humpback whales, they travel to the past of an alien planet to rescue -- for lack of a better term -- alien whales.

In my canon, Spock stays dead after the events of TWOK and the Genesis Planet never goes kablooie. That renders TSFS largely non-canon and places TUC in a hazy gray area.

None of the TNG films are canon.

That leaves TWOK as the only Trek film largely intact as it is within my canon.

COMICS

GOLD KEY COMICS

These gray landing party uniforms that appear in the first issue are definitely part of my personal canon.

Star Trek #15: "Museum at the End of Time"

Star Trek #22: "Siege in Superspace"

Star Trek #26: "The Perfect Dream"

Star Trek #28: "The Mimicking Menace"

Star Trek #30: "Death of a Star"

MARVEL COMICS

Most of Marvel's first series

The first fifteen issues of Early Voyages

Untold Voyages

Star Trek Unlimited #4: "Inheritance"

Star Trek Unlimited #9: "Trekkers"

DC COMICS

Most of DC's first series

Issues 1-12, 34, 42-43, 65-68, 73-75, and Annuals 2 & 3 of DC's second series

Debt of Honor

NOVELS

Thus far, I haven't finished any Trek novels. I'm currently reading Spock Must Die!, my first Trek novel, and suffice it to say, I doubt I'll be adding it to my personal canon.

SHORT STORIES

"A Private Anecdote"

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#745856
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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moviefreakedmind said:

Do you think it was caused by the completely arrogant claims from Lucas claiming that he planned everything for decades and had a "vision" coupled with the unhealthy cult-leader worship that TFN people had for him? It would make sense I guess since I don't think there were any "true vision" speeches back when Jedi came out, making it OK for people to dislike it.

Yeah, that's what I think happened. Lucas became a messiah in their minds, and when confronted with evidence to the contrary, they became pseudo-religious zealots, treating each and every person who didn't buy into Lucas' vision like heretics worthy only of being burned at the stake. 

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#745850
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Last movie seen
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Destino (2003)

Nudity in a Disney film ... Even though I knew Dali collaborated on it, I can't say I saw that coming. It doesn't bother me, though; I wish the company had the balls to pull stuff like this more often, to be quite honest. 

8/10

Death Becomes Her (1992)

Bruce Willis makes this movie. I'm not what you'd call a fan of the guy, but his against-type performance as a snivelling, alcoholic dweeb is played to perfection. It really makes me wish Willis would play these types of characters more often; the macho tough guy he plays in almost all his other movies has long since become a bore to watch.

8/10

Dumber & Dumber (1994)

Apparently I watched the unrated version. I suppose that may be the reason why this movie feels more juvenile and uneven than it did when I watched it last, way back in -- what? 2003? 2004? Or perhaps I've just outgrown the movie a bit.

Oh, well, whatever the case may be, I still enjoy Carrey and Daniels' performances, childish though they may be 99% of the time.

7.5/10

Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead (1991)

It seems that lately, whenever I watch a movie I liked in childhood for the first time in years, it often doesn't seem to hold up as well as it did when I was younger; either it comes off as insipid to me, or I simply find myself not as entertained by it as I once was.

On rarer occassions, though, when I rewatch a movie I didn't like all that much as a kid, I may find that it's improved over the years.

In this case, this movie falls into the latter category. I can't say why, exactly -- God knows this movie's nothing special -- but something about it that didn't work for me as a kid just clicks for me now.

8/10

Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas (1997)

Tim Curry's performance in this is simply excellent. If only the same could be said for the rest of the movie ...

6/10

Adventures in Babysitting (1987)

I think about 55% of this film's appeal lies with Elisabeth Shue and her gorgeous hairstyle.

*swoon*

8/10