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DuracellEnergizer

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#1235696
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All Things Star Trek
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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Possessed said:

Well they originated during TOS, and having them be Humanoid was the only way to make them convincing.

My philosophy is if you can’t make truly alien aliens, don’t include aliens in your story. The Trek universe is a largely anthropocentric universe anyway, so it would’ve been a better course of action to have made the Vulcans/Klingons/etc. derivations of humanity and left non-human entities out of the picture entirely.

or you could just decide to enjoy the show and not nitpick at how you wish in-universe explanations were this and not that.

One can enjoy a show while still wishing some things had been done differently.

Everyone in the galaxy speaking English doesn’t stop me from enjoying SG-1.

I view SG-1 as a satire. I don’t take it seriously at all. Even then, everything past Season 5 stinks.

I mean, if you’re going to dismiss a common-ancestry explanation as junk science, I don’t see how saying that common ancestor came from Earth would make it any better.

It’s plausible that if humanity ever colonizes space, certain populations will have to resort to genetic manipulation to comfortably exist on worlds with hotter/colder temperatures, higher/lower gravity, etc. Aliens blowing their load on primordial planets and said load evolving into near-identical lifeforms capable of interbreeding* is pure hokum.

*Interbreeding in spite of often having radically divergent body chemistries & anatomies, I might add.

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#1235686
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All Things Star Trek
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Possessed said:

Well they originated during TOS, and having them be Humanoid was the only way to make them convincing.

My philosophy is if you can’t make truly alien aliens, don’t include aliens in your story. The Trek universe is a largely anthropocentric universe anyway, so it would’ve been a better course of action to have made the Vulcans/Klingons/etc. derivations of humanity and left non-human entities out of the picture entirely.

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#1235674
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All Things Star Trek
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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Dek Rollins said:

I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

I’m not a fan of “human” aliens to begin with. Why make them aliens if they’re nearly identical to humans? May as well make them human offshoots.

Humanoid.*

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumanAliens

The reason why the different races are humanoid is because they are all offshoots from the same parent species, but not from humans. Humans are also offshoots.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chase_(episode)
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid

Yeah, I’m aware of that junk science explanation.

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#1235631
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All Things Star Trek
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Dek Rollins said:

I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

Speaking only for myself, I think the design is lame, especially in this day and age.

Of course, I’m not a fan of “human” aliens to begin with. Why make them aliens if they’re nearly identical to humans? May as well make them human offshoots.

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#1235621
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All Things Star Trek
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I don’t understand why Vulcans haven’t never been given a makeover. The Klingons have been tinkered with, what, two, three times now to make them more alien in appearance? Yet the Vulcans remain exactly the way they’ve been since 1967 — humans with pointy ears and eyebrows. I can understand not messing with Spock — he’s half-human, he’s iconic, he’s perfect as-is — but full-blooded Vulcans couldn’t do with some upgrading? C’mon.

I think the Romulan redesign for TNG would serve as a good template for a Vulcan redesign. Just add more green to their physiology — their skin, their eyes, even their teeth — to make them really distinct from humanity.