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DuracellEnergizer

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#1235899
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All Things Star Trek
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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And that’s my Star Trek.

Why does it have to be Star Trek? It could be some other series/franchise entirely, and let Star Trek be what it is.

Who said it has to be? I certainly didn’t. It’s a hypothetical “what if?” scenario.

It didn’t sound merely hypothetical. It sounded like you want Star Trek to be something it is not and doesn’t need to be, to the point that there’s no need to even call it Star Trek.

It’s Trek as I would’ve done it. That’s all.

I was saying if you wanted that, there’s nothing stopping it being its own entity rather than replace Trek—

I eagrely await such an entity. I considered creating it myself, but I don’t know how to write a Kirk-inspired captain who isn’t just a Kirk ripoff, a Spock-inspired science officer who isn’t just a Spock ripoff, etc.

especially if the reasoning for replacing Trek is both due to real-world budgetary constraints, and that you don’t accept in-universe explanations of those constraints.

I don’t believe in replacing TOS; I don’t believe in replacing TNG; I don’t believe in replacing TAS or VOY or [insert spinoff here]. I believe sillier/stupider elements from past series & movies should be silently ignored/retconned, and their use avoided in current & future productions.

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#1235843
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All Things Star Trek
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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And that’s my Star Trek.

Why does it have to be Star Trek? It could be some other series/franchise entirely, and let Star Trek be what it is.

Who said it has to be? I certainly didn’t. It’s a hypothetical “what if?” scenario.

Perhaps I failed to convey myself properly, but just for those who may think otherwise, I don’t dislike TOS. Indeed, it’s my second favourite series after DS9. It’s an imperfect series, yes. There are things I would’ve done differently, certainly. But at the end of the day, it’s a product of its time and I can take it — and enjoy it — for what it is. I don’t stay awake at night cursing Roddenberry for not being Frank Herbert.

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#1235764
Topic
All Things Star Trek
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Possessed said:

But you said

Nothing about the series in general would change.

You wanna know how I would’ve handled TOS if I’d been in charge? What the premise would’ve been? How I would’ve executed it? All the ins and outs?

Alright.

Here goes.

I’m going back to the '60s, now. . . .

***

The Federation would be over 1000 years old, but Mankind itself would’ve been exploring space for over 4000 years. In those thousands of years, humans spread throughout the Orion Arm of the galaxy. Due to various extenuating circumstances — war, plague, etc. — a fair number of these colonies became separated & isolated, forgotten. Some of these isolated colonies diverged significantly from baseline humanity, culturally and/or physiologically. Some, like the Vulcans, were peaceful & friendly and had little problem resuming contact with humanity. Others, like the Klingons, become warlike xenophobes. So on, so forth.

The series would be set in the late 7th millennium — 6745-6749 CE. At the beginning of the series, the Federation would not have yet made verified first contact with intelligent species of extraterrestrial origin. Ruins & relics of extinct alien civilizations have been catalogued, and spacers tell tall-tales of encounters with mysterious entities at the fringes of known space, but there’d be no confirmed sightings or encounters with living, breathing aliens.

Kirk’s five-year mission would primarily consist of

  1. Patrolling the borders with the Klingon & Romulan Empires.
  2. Delivering supplies to outlying outposts & colonies.
  3. Dealing with pirates & smugglers.
  4. Doing light exploration into areas of space which have been charted but not quite explored yet.

Most of the “new civilizations” Kirk & co. would encounter would be isolated human & near-human cultures. Eventually, however, genuine aliens would surface — truly bizarre critters like the Horlas & Excalbians & Salt Vampires & Melkot. They would remain few and far between, however, due to budgetary/SFX limitations.

And that’s my Star Trek.

P.S. – I’d also like to do ongoing character & story arcs, if the executives don’t mind deviation from the standard episodic storytelling formula. A full five seasons would be swell, too.

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#1235725
Topic
All Things Star Trek
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Possessed said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

If these guys

were changed from an extraterrestrial species into a human subspecies, it would change essentially nothing about the episode. Nothing about the series in general would change.

Really? Because I would wonder “how the fuck did that happen” since supposedly humans from earth hadn’t been there before? If humans have already been through the galaxy and altered the gene pool that actually kinda changes the premise of the entire series. If it were in TNG I’d buy it since much more time and space exploration had past but not in TOS.

It’s not a scenario which would’ve worked in the timeline as-is. Human colonization of space would’ve had to been going on a lot longer than a couple hundred years.

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#1235712
Topic
All Things Star Trek
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If these guys

were changed from an extraterrestrial species into a human subspecies, it would change essentially nothing about the episode. Nothing about the series in general would change. Exploration and meeting new civilizations would still be the focus of the show; only the origin/nature of those civilizations would be different.