DuracellEnergizer

I recently had my first bite of bologna since the 1st grade. It’s even more unappealing than I remember it.

Possessed said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Everyone one knows milk goes with vodka and Kalua.

Yeah but doesn’t Kalua have caffeine? Possessed avoids stimulants because they give him anxiety.

https://www.supercall.com/spirits/liqueur/does-kahlua-have-caffeine

Combine & re-edit TFA & TLJ into a psychological thriller about a real world Star Wars fangirl undergoing a fever dream where she’s a superhero in the SW Universe.

[JEDIT]

Nevermind. Wrong thread.

Good ideas all around.

On Friday night, I spilled soup on my laptop. It wasn’t much soup, and I thought I’d cleaned it up fast enough to prevent seepage into the innards, but apparently I didn’t; a couple minutes later, the screen went dark and I couldn’t use the power button to shut the laptop off, forcing me to unplug it and disconnect the battery. After opening it up to sponge up whatever moisture I could find, I reconnected the battery and turned it back on. It started booting up as normal, but then I got a blue screen informing me something had gone wrong and the computer needed to restart. Instead of restarting, the screen went dead again. For the rest of that night, ever hour or so I’d turn the computer back on, seeing if it would boot up as normal, but the screen stayed black.

The next morning, I tried turning the laptop on again. This time it started an automatic repair. The first auto-repair failed, and the screen went black, but the second attempt was successful. I then was able to use the laptop without any hiccups all yesterday.

Today, when I started the computer back up, the login screen went fuzzy — like a TV with bad reception — and froze. I turned it off then on again. The second time, I just got some red staticky bars, then the computer screen went black. Third time, every thing seemed to run smoothly. Minutes after getting online, though, that blue screen returned and the computer restarted. After it restarted, I was able to login, but there were no Internet connections available. I restarted the computer again; everything seems to be okay now.

If this wonkiness continues, I may have to take the laptop in for maintenance.

ChainsawAsh said:

BiggsFan44 said:

Anchorhead said:

BiggsFan44 said:

What does time on this forum have to do with it?

Quite a bit.

Disagree.

I mean, I’d imagine someone who’s been here more than a decade with a couple thousand posts under his belt without getting banned is slightly less likely to be a troll than someone who just created an account then made a thread where he bitches at anyone who disagrees with him, but that’s just me.

I don’t believe you! It’s another trick!

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Everyone one knows milk goes with vodka and Kalua.

Yeah, well, y’know, that’s just like, uh, your opinion, man.

I choose 2.

Possessed said:

Now I basically just pour three or four shots of gin into any random beverage that isn’t just water I’m drinking. And I mean any.

Even yak milk?

• Fantastic Jamming Man
• Z-Man

Just don’t get a cooked pizza. That’s grounds for a broken engagement.

chyron8472 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

dahmage said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Handman said:

Wait, your name isn’t Ash?

On the off-chance this isn’t a joke, nope, it’s not! There are a few users on here that now my real name. It’s actually in the ESB:R credits instead of my username, too, if I remember right.

I before your real name?

Except after C!

Don’t be a weiner.

ChainsawAsh said:

If you more or less enjoyed season 1, I’d say you owe it to yourself to keep going.

That’s the plan. I’m gonna finish watching seasons from some other shows I’m currently watching before proceeding.

DrDre said:

dahmage said:

Do people really care about the MCU that much though? As far as I can tell it is just a fun ride for the vast majority. :shrug:

I am sure it’s least 50% (probably 80%) of anything called fan anger is something for those fans to work out. Not something any director did to them.

Yes, the MCU has a large and devoted fanbase, including comic book fans who are devoted to seeing their favourite comic book characters done justice.

I’m still waiting for that to happen.

Handman said:

Never understood drinking. Had one drink on my 21st birthday, terrible. Never considered it before or since, it seemed obligatory.

Its an acquired … shall we say … taste?

One frog makes you larger, and one frog makes you small, and the ones that Mon Mothma gives you don’t do anything at all. . . .

★★★★★★★★★☆

Added Richard Moll to my list.

This forum has been re-Possessed. 😃

BiggsFan44 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

BiggsFan44 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Alright, I’ll try to find your “examples” from throughout the thread and respond to them.

First, Yoda:

For example, I was just watching TLJ and I got to the scene with Yoda. Yoda is a puppet in TLJ when he was CG in the PT. The problem for me is that these movies are supposed to be installments in the same story, and yet that illusion is shattered into a million pieces when things like puppet Yoda

Yoda in TLJ is supposed to look as much like he did in ghost form in ROTJ as possible. He’s a puppet in the end of ROTJ when he’s a ghost. It would, in my opinion, be more immersion-breaking for him to be CGI and appear as he did 20 years before his death. It would be a different story (and an entirely different can of worms) had Lucas replaced ESB/ROTJ Yoda with a CGI model, but he never did. So, chronologically, you see (I) CGI/puppet (depending on the version of TPM you watch) > (II) CGI > (III) CGI > (V) Puppet > (VI) Puppet > (VIII) Puppet. You really think that (I) CGI/puppet > (II) CGI > (III) CGI > (V) Puppet > (VI) Puppet > (VIII) CGI would have been more cohesive when looked at as a full saga?

The Maz Kanata argument is invalid to me because she never appeared in any film prior to TFA, so there’s an infinite amount of freedom in her appearance. You’d have an argument if she appeared in TFA as CGI and was suddenly a puppet in TLJ, or something, but as it stands you’re creating a comparison where there isn’t one.

Yoda being CG might strain the link up with the OT, but the strain doesn’t come from what my thread is about, which is how we can consider this all to be one universe if creators are passing judgement on the quality of the depiction of supposedly equally canonical events.

So Lucas broke the cohesion of “one universe” by changing Yoda from a puppet to CGI first. Yet it’s the ST you’re railing against for going back to the puppet. That seems like a double standard to me - villifying ST filmmakers for changing a thing from one film to the next while excusing Lucas from doing the same because you prefer his movies.

On to other things…

or TFA being like the anti-prequel in much of its approach

How?

are pretty much rebuttals of earlier installments.

How are they rebuttals? Do they claim that the earlier movies never happened, wiping them from continuity the way every Highlander sequel has done to the film that came before it? No.

how can the fact that people can’t stop picking and choosing elements they like and don’t like from the movies (that goes for fans and creators alike) not completely destroy the illusion that ALL of these events from ALL of these movies and shows take place in the same universe?

It…doesn’t? I don’t understand how it does, and I’ve yet to see an explanation from you as to how this is the case in your mind.

the fact that TCW Anakin maybe should have been closer to Hayden, but also that they aren’t really AS different as Hayden detractors claim, and late season Lanter Anakin was as “unlikable” as Anakin ever was, especially in arcs like the second Clovis arc.

Did you just refute your own argument about Anakin in the same sentence in which you brought it up? Because I think you did.

I’d argue that the ST betrays the spirit of the series more than the PT did though. And that’s a larger problem than things like why Owen didn’t recognize 3-P0.
TFA is a waste of 200 million dollars because it copies a movie but makes it worse (And the argument that the first Disney SW movie needed to feel “familiar” is moot, since TFA locks the entire trilogy into a “big bad Empire vs. scrappy rebels” redo, complete with locking in the stale aesthetic/art direction), and TLJ writes Luke so incredibly OOC that he can’t be considered the same character who said “You’ve failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

Okay, this is where I stop, because all of this is 100% “I don’t like the ST so I’m going to rail against it and find every avenue I can to attack it” and not a discussion of keeping canonical cohesion of a saga across multiple decades and filmmakers. Which is the discussion I was hoping to find when I opened this thread.

The Rosetta Stone of TFA is this- it doesn’t even have a scene that explains the political scenario to the level ANH did with the Tarkin round table scene, simply because the PT had “too much politics.”
TFA is so OBVIOUSLY reactionary, you trolling bantha.

BiggsFan44 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

BiggsFan44 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Alright, I’ll try to find your “examples” from throughout the thread and respond to them.

First, Yoda:

For example, I was just watching TLJ and I got to the scene with Yoda. Yoda is a puppet in TLJ when he was CG in the PT. The problem for me is that these movies are supposed to be installments in the same story, and yet that illusion is shattered into a million pieces when things like puppet Yoda

Yoda in TLJ is supposed to look as much like he did in ghost form in ROTJ as possible. He’s a puppet in the end of ROTJ when he’s a ghost. It would, in my opinion, be more immersion-breaking for him to be CGI and appear as he did 20 years before his death. It would be a different story (and an entirely different can of worms) had Lucas replaced ESB/ROTJ Yoda with a CGI model, but he never did. So, chronologically, you see (I) CGI/puppet (depending on the version of TPM you watch) > (II) CGI > (III) CGI > (V) Puppet > (VI) Puppet > (VIII) Puppet. You really think that (I) CGI/puppet > (II) CGI > (III) CGI > (V) Puppet > (VI) Puppet > (VIII) CGI would have been more cohesive when looked at as a full saga?

The Maz Kanata argument is invalid to me because she never appeared in any film prior to TFA, so there’s an infinite amount of freedom in her appearance. You’d have an argument if she appeared in TFA as CGI and was suddenly a puppet in TLJ, or something, but as it stands you’re creating a comparison where there isn’t one.

Yoda being CG might strain the link up with the OT, but the strain doesn’t come from what my thread is about, which is how we can consider this all to be one universe if creators are passing judgement on the quality of the depiction of supposedly equally canonical events.

So Lucas broke the cohesion of “one universe” by changing Yoda from a puppet to CGI first. Yet it’s the ST you’re railing against for going back to the puppet. That seems like a double standard to me - villifying ST filmmakers for changing a thing from one film to the next while excusing Lucas from doing the same because you prefer his movies.

On to other things…

or TFA being like the anti-prequel in much of its approach

How?

are pretty much rebuttals of earlier installments.

How are they rebuttals? Do they claim that the earlier movies never happened, wiping them from continuity the way every Highlander sequel has done to the film that came before it? No.

how can the fact that people can’t stop picking and choosing elements they like and don’t like from the movies (that goes for fans and creators alike) not completely destroy the illusion that ALL of these events from ALL of these movies and shows take place in the same universe?

It…doesn’t? I don’t understand how it does, and I’ve yet to see an explanation from you as to how this is the case in your mind.

the fact that TCW Anakin maybe should have been closer to Hayden, but also that they aren’t really AS different as Hayden detractors claim, and late season Lanter Anakin was as “unlikable” as Anakin ever was, especially in arcs like the second Clovis arc.

Did you just refute your own argument about Anakin in the same sentence in which you brought it up? Because I think you did.

I’d argue that the ST betrays the spirit of the series more than the PT did though. And that’s a larger problem than things like why Owen didn’t recognize 3-P0.
TFA is a waste of 200 million dollars because it copies a movie but makes it worse (And the argument that the first Disney SW movie needed to feel “familiar” is moot, since TFA locks the entire trilogy into a “big bad Empire vs. scrappy rebels” redo, complete with locking in the stale aesthetic/art direction), and TLJ writes Luke so incredibly OOC that he can’t be considered the same character who said “You’ve failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

Okay, this is where I stop, because all of this is 100% “I don’t like the ST so I’m going to rail against it and find every avenue I can to attack it” and not a discussion of keeping canonical cohesion of a saga across multiple decades and filmmakers. Which is the discussion I was hoping to find when I opened this thread.

The Rosetta Stone of TFA is this- it doesn’t even have a scene that explains the political scenario to the level ANH did with the Tarkin round table scene, simply because the PT had “too much politics.”
TFA is so OBVIOUSLY reactionary, you trolling bantha.

Love it when members with one-day-old accounts call 14-year veterans of the site trolls.

Clearly you’re not interested in having an actual conversation. Thanks for the new signature quote, though. Bye.

What does time on this forum have to do with it? You’re not going to troll people who share your opinions.
Also, you know I’m right about TFA.

lawl

I suspect there’s indeed a “trolling bantha” in this thread, but it isn’t ChainsawAsh.

Who’s the suspect?

You remind me of the babe.

I only got drunk enough to vomit once, and that was probably because I ate a large supper shortly after intoxication.

dahmage said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

The 7th of October, I’d wager.

That’s dumb.

Unfortunately, it fits the typical temp-ban profile.

There’s a solid chance this’s been posted already. . . .