DuTwan

bobgarcia74 said:

It may be still rendering with Youtube, so might look like crap for about 30 min. But heres the basic outline. Palpatine attacks quicker, Jedi fall faster. Just as mrbenja mentioned, cause he's seen my second cut of the film.

Again Maces saber for these parts are not done yet. So dont mind the color change in between shots

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPIogztlbMc

 As Kit Fisto blocks that attacks to his shoulder, shame that it can't be edited as if Palp had sliced off the bottom of Fisto's saber. Thus Fisto being unable to block the next attack.

bobgarcia74 said:

Well the debate over the idea of more Sith eyes scenes kind of worked itself out without my help. The first shot that I did looked pretty darn good, but as I'm adding the eyes to more shots It looks amazingly bad, and doesnt quite give the feeling that I was intending. It just looks very out of place.

So atm , Sith eyes are out. Based on suggestions from a few people here. I'm going to tinker around with removing them entirely from this film, with the exception of the Emperor.

As I stated before, It wasnt something that I was dead set on having added anyways. The only way I was going to include more Sith eye moments was if it helped the story, came across looking good, and promoted the idea of a struggle in Anakin. If it didnt do all 3 of those things, it wasnt going to happen.

 Glad to hear it Bob. Are you going to get rid of the yellow eyes during anakin's burning scene? *crosses fingers* please say yes. I would rather see anakin with normal eyes in this scene. I think it would be more emotional that ''good anakin'' tells him he hates him instead of yellow eyed ''evil anakin''

Im not sayin get rif of mauls yellow eyes per se. i sayin i prefer without yellow eyes, its the issue of anakin having yellow eyes im not too sure about. its been said its like a gimmick.

EyeShotFirst said:

 

That's a lot of work for the sake of working.

 Not really, Darth Maul appears in few scenes, Dooku doesnt have yellow eyes and anakin has yellow eyes in only few scenes. It wouldnt be a huge work load but i can see many ppl agreeing that its a change that maybe just for the sake of it, but i feel its important to step away from the cartoony/child like side of prequel trilogy that lucas put in. I totally understand its a kids movie but many reviewers have said they feel as if Lucas has to force it into our head whats happening on screen and thats how i feel about anakin having yellow eyes, its forced and not natural. Imagine anakin have huge love hearts on his eyes when we see the balcony scene....that horrible, horrible balcony scene....

Ripplin said:

Part of the reason why people get annoyed with newbies in this thread sometimes is that a lot of the questions asked are answered in the first post...which many don't even read. Or if they do, they sort of browse through it so quickly that they don't even notice the info they're looking for. :p

 I look at it as if the thread was a book, most of us read from the beginning to understand whats going on but some ppl read the last page and ask questions about the rest.

vaderios said:

haraldo23 said:

Darth Maul was the only good thing about TPM. The way he looks should not be changed IMHO.

What exactly was good on him? what was his purpose? Or maybe it had in his face a big word "COOL FACTOR"

-Angel

 As people already call him Darth Timefiller he doesnt have a purpose other than looking cool with double bladed lightsaber. They should have used him all the way through the prequel imho. Through him they could have explain who the sith were and what they were all about. Palpatine couldnt of been used for this as he was working in the shadows as it were.

I still love the idea of getting rid of the yellow eyes except Darth Sidious. He the symbol of evil. Anakin was a gimmick to say hey look im evil now. Dooku never had yellow eyes despite the fact he was a "Sith". Darth Maul looks fine with yellow eyes due to the design of his character. Angel has proved that Darth Maul without yellow eyes can be just as good if not better. Be rid of the yellow eyes i say! haha

vaderios said:

DuTwan said:

Angel anychance you could possibly have a go at taking out the colour out of palpatines 'evil face' and making it paler like ROTJ style and replace the yellow eyes with normal eyes?

Palpatine was iconic. Even he was very little in ROTJ he was more memorable from the timefiller maul.

As redletter media said the characters from ep 1 to two are whole different persons. thats why i dont know how the idea maul - grievous can work as Bingo suggested. Maul never speaks. GG is speaking all the time.

So id rather make normal palp with evil eyes rather the opposite ;)

 

-Angel

 I understand, it works with some ppl but not others, to me GG is too different a character to maul, dont really like the idea of maul to GG.

Palpatine i suppose was the iconic symbol of evil. it works in that context.

ThrowgnCpr said:

 HAHA!! Darth Puss in Boots!

vaderios said:

Farlander said:

As far as I understand, the Sith eyes appeared for Darth Maul as means to make him cool and menacing (I wouldn't call Palpatine's eyes in RotJ Sith eyes... they're relatively normal). Then, in 2003-2004 (AFTER AotC, mind you) KotOR games have been released, where those who follow the Dark Side slowly change appearance (most notably the eyes).

Nah.. he is cool even without the sith eyes ;)

The concept can work

-Angel

 OMG angel uve ruined my image of maul!!! noooo!!! haha only jokin. Im actually impressed how maul looks without the eyes, i think i actually like it more without yellow eyes. I think someone else mentioned it earlier but its like a gimmick anakin has, dont like it, don't think i actually ever will. Hate that stupid little clip of anakin lookin at the camera which deserves a caption saying 'hey look guys, im evil now. my eyes are yellow, look! loooookkk!!!!!'

Angel anychance you could possibly have a go at taking out the colour out of palpatines 'evil face' and making it paler like ROTJ style and replace the yellow eyes with normal eyes?

Ive never liked the yellow eyes thing with anakin. It worked with darth maul because of the overall design of the character. Darth sidious' eyes looked ok with the over design of the character but with anakin it looks wrong.

brash_stryker said:

I'm still thinking of a good way to link the dart to Kamino without the Jedi seeming presumptuous. (I mean just because it was made on Kamino doesn't mean the person using it is anything to do with the planet, let alone that he'd still reside there)

At the moment, my ideas are:

1. It's made from a specific alloy that's being used to create republic weaponry for the army - in the facility on Kamino, no less.

I like this idea the best, i mean its more like detective work or something you see in csi too. tracing a metal back to its own planet is more reliable than taking a fat burger bar guys word for it. Dexsterr Jettster was a pointless character, imagine how much time was used creating this character, doin the cgi for him and then cgi for obi wans robe? too much time wasted

haraldo23 said:

Bingowings said:

... but we are still left with a Fett who needn't have been there (a bounty hunter hiring a bounty hunter seems a bit daft).

Maybe he wanted to keep a low profile but still earn some money, so he hired someone else to do his job. It would seem logical for him not doing the dirty work.

 Maybe it could be edited in a way where they actually were working together rather than Jango hiring Zam. I know we dont look at EU but in the bounty hunter game for ps2 Jango and Zam worked together. May the adjustment of the line of ''my client is gettin impatient'' to ''our client is gettin a little impatient''. Then as Zam is about to reveal the person who hired her it could be cut so she never mentions about a ''Bounty Hunter called....''

oracle said:

hi just a quick one has you paid any thought yo pitching down the boga beasts sounds during the seens of obi-wan riding or summoning it. I just thought a really large beast should have a more menacing sound

 

 

 Well it seems to me like the Boga is quite similar to a lizard with feathers, like half between a dinosaur and a bird. Maybe replace bird sounds with raptor sounds from Jarassic Films?

Maybe a little something of either one of these sounds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwxQQJz_-Ko

Sevb32 stop asking for clips, stills etc. its not cool man. The film is done when its done.

The only thing if i was you is to request maybe what has been completed so far so the sake of producing ideas for it. Would be nice to know what needs working on Adywan, nothing revealing but maybe something we need to do or think about, brainstorm or mock up. I know you dont wanna reveal much and thats fine, just kinda wish it was like a list that we can look at and see what needs maybe discussing. Gives a bit more direction for us instead of random tangents that the topic goes. Maybe easier too than keep going back and forth through the film adding bits after you think its done etc.

Maybe something like 005's ROTJ wishlist, where mock ups/footage/concepts can be made for each point.

Johnny Ringo said:

Bingowings said:

One change I would like to see would be having some Jedi wearing armor as in the Clone Wars series (not to tie in with the EU but to give some of the Jedi a medieval knight look) and also have some of the Jedi wearing pretty much the same outfit Luke wears in ROTJ (making that out to be an established uniform of some kind).

The idea that the Jedi wear moisture farmer robes all the time seems a bit odd.

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing concept art of battle weary Jedi at some point - things like Ki Adi wearing an eye patch, it was an interesting idea that they obviously decided not to go with.

EDIT: it seems they made an action figure based on this concept - see here:

http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD38ConceptKi.asp

 yup thats true, i always wanted to see the jedi look more rough and war torn. would destroyed the image of the jedi in the republic's eyes as mystical robe wearing protects to special war torn soldiers.

brash_stryker said:

Handzzz said:

How about these X-wing variants?

http://images.google.hu/imgres?imgurl=http://www.alfredsmind.ca/nr/xwjsc6.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alfredsmind.ca/xjpg.htm&usg=__rWvmAYVnoKA7maA283-EQ-YQO-o=&h=398&w=504&sz=49&hl=hu&start=5&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=E-AV8Awvbz1kAM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DXJ%2Bwing%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dhu%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs47/f/2009/238/6/1/Incom_T_65_XJ_5_Stealth_X_Wing_by_RavingDork.jpg

Not different enough for the PT in my opinion. I still think the z95 Headhunter or Y Wings with all their armour plating intact would be ideal to replace those horrendous looking ships in ROTS (I forget what they're called)

 I was looking around and so happened to come across this, its like a cross between the ARC 170 and the X-wing

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071202181709/starwars/images/0/0a/Ewing_negvv.jpg

brash_stryker said:

Bear in mind, he has just tracked the Bounty Hunter there, so is under the impression that Dooku is behind Amidala's attempted assassination.

Even though, in my edit, he's not.

Although, I agree. The hostility at the level it is currently does seem a bit unjustified. It's as if Obi doesn't even take in what Dooku has just told him. He should at least question whether he's being told the truth or not. I don't know how this can be fixed though. This was a flaw in the original cut as well as mine.

I will have a go at shifting around the "I don't believe you" to replace the more hostile "I will never join you, Dooku" but I don't know if this can be pulled off effectively. I'd need another cutaway to replace it where it is originally. We'll see.

hey i have a couple of ideas regarding that scene.

1. How about after Dooku says "Join me Obi Wan and together we can destroy the Sith!" we have Obi Wan that stays silent. So Dooku has his answer in silent protest, similar to luke aboard the death star when the emperor is tempting him.

2. The alternative is maybe havin Dooku just say "Join me Obi Wan!" as if he means join the seperatists. Then Obi Wan can respond "I will never join you!" which in turn will strengthen Obi Wan loyalty to the republic and strengthen his comment in Epi 3.

Rogue Leader said:

vaderios said:

Even im not to the bluesky concept

i still like the process. Remembering the dracula acid planet concept .Bingo im still trying to find ways making Geonosis morel like the Acid Rain planet that vader had his planet.

Im sure rogue leader can give more info for that EU factor

 

-Angel

 

You referring to Vjun? In old concept paintings it's more of a volcano planet but that was changed... Other than that the terrain is rather lifeless and Vader's castle is one of a few structures on the planet. Terrain is rocky but due to the acid rain has been smoothed over the centuries into stalagmite like structures.

Oh and for the comments considering the Geonosians coloration under a blue sky... yeah good points there. I guess I was thinking of counter shading in certain marine animals where the top is darker due to potential predators looking down and the bottom is lighter for animals looking up towards the surface. Also as there is no real evidence of life/predators other than the Geonosians on Geonosis or oceans... I guess they wouldn't have much need to for extreme camouflage or be blue. Will ponder about this...

 

 Something a little like this perhaps?

JediMasterFisher said:

DuTwan said:

fishmanlee said:

EyeShotFirst said:

fishmanlee said:

jedi rocks couldnt have been more stupid had it been this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTsShhxqnA

I actually liked the Anything Goes part of Temple of Doom. It was the 1930's after all. Things were like that buddy.

 didnt say that it was bad that it just made that even stupider (if there is such a word)

 Fishmanlee did you comment yourself on youtube? jedimasterfisher? fishmanlee? smells very fishy to me. If you did comment yourself that makes you 100% troll. At the moment your about 98%! Just one more crude crappy sound edited youtube video to finish yourself off.

um i'm JediMasterFisher and i'm my own person thank you very much and I happened to enjoy watching his idea in that video!

 ok man chill, just wondering if he had hit an all time low, no offence to u dude

Davnes007 said:

But, the MF was rendered light-speed'less....but Luke's X-W prolly had light-speed to spare......right?

 Maybe he hitchhiked across the galaxy? Or docked on a bigger ship, a space ferry as it were.

mrbenja0618 said:

I stand corrected... However he did in fact fly it from Utapu to the location of the Tantive IV...  I mean, I guess they could have been close enough that Obi-wan could have flown without the use of light speed, but I doubt it.

 Well whats even more confusing is that Luke flew from Dagobah to Bespin in his X-wing! Bespin's hardly as trip to the local shops.

fishmanlee said:

EyeShotFirst said:

fishmanlee said:

jedi rocks couldnt have been more stupid had it been this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTsShhxqnA

I actually liked the Anything Goes part of Temple of Doom. It was the 1930's after all. Things were like that buddy.

 didnt say that it was bad that it just made that even stupider (if there is such a word)

 Fishmanlee did you comment yourself on youtube? jedimasterfisher? fishmanlee? smells very fishy to me. If you did comment yourself that makes you 100% troll. At the moment your about 98%! Just one more crude crappy sound edited youtube video to finish yourself off.

doubleofive said:

Shouldn't baby Luke be in a car seat.  I mean, a space seat?  ;-)

Teasing, I love most of the ideas you presented.

 Haha a little booster seat in the back? that would be funny.

Trouble is we have to assume that Obi Wan's ship has lightspeed capabilities?

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

DuTwan said:

Hey loved the sequence, just few things i think might be better perhaps?

first being, "what is thy bidding my master?" bit should be the last bit of the scene, makes it more powerful i feel, i don't think sidious laughing is needed. Not so keen on the bit after too. Second point, Obi steals luke!?! :O haha

 Thanks for the feedback! The scene with Palps and Vader is...well...I don't necessarily like what I have...I'm not particularly good with writting new dialouge- woah I sounded like Lucas! ;)

Hmm...I didn't think about it looking like Obiwan stole Luke...just a lack of footage. Any suggestions?

 Well if i was you i would cut it just after "what is thy bidding my master?".

As BarBar Jinxx said:

when Bail leaves I think Yoda says "Obi wan wait a moment" or something to that effect...

that may be enough as yoda may not like the idea of them both being with Bail.

We can assume yoda has plans for luke.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Alright part 3 (and final) of the "ROTS new timeline" videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsr59ZpcPEc

I tried explaining everything I did in the description box...but ran out of room! So many changes! ;)

 Hey loved the sequence, just few things i think might be better perhaps?

first being, "what is thy bidding my master?" bit should be the last bit of the scene, makes it more powerful i feel, i don't think sidious laughing is needed. Not so keen on the bit after too. Second point, Obi steals luke!?! :O haha