DominicCobb

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Where are you seeing that 4th draft? I have a copy of the Art of Star Wars (from 1979) which has the "Revised Fourth Draft" dated January 15, 1976. In it, that scene plays like in the theatrical cut.

I just looked on the webs and I found this from IMSDb which also has the scene as it appears in the original film.

JEDIT: I seem to have found what you're referring to: 

http://starwars.rossiters.com/binaries/sw_revised4th-draft.txt

This one is dated March 15, 1976.

Why the discrepancy between the two? And are there other differences?

Have to say I'd be disappointed if Episode VII was basically GOTG. I'm hoping for something better than that.

timdiggerm said:

DominicCobb said:

Regarding the Ben's hut scene, I'm a little confused. Everyone seems to say that ady's version follows the script. But it doesn't. I've looked at the script, the theatrical cut follows the scene exactly as it was written. However, ady's version does flow well and it seems as if the scene was shot with that sequence of dialogue in mind. Can someone clarify this for me?

 Don't forget that the script was changed for publication to match the released film. Ady's version matches the shooting script - the script at time of filming.

If that's the case, why does the script include deleted material like Luke at Anchorhead? And even within that scene there are differences. For example, Ben says: "An elegant weapon, for a more civilized time."

L8wrtr's and Hal's are both very good in my book. Honestly just check out IFDb and you'll be able to get a good sense of quality from the reviews and content from the cut lists. 

Regarding the Ben's hut scene, I'm a little confused. Everyone seems to say that ady's version follows the script. But it doesn't. I've looked at the script, the theatrical cut follows the scene exactly as it was written. However, ady's version does flow well and it seems as if the scene was shot with that sequence of dialogue in mind. Can someone clarify this for me?

I went to the antique shop today but couldn't spend to long. I thought I hadn't found anything, then, right as I was about to leave, I looked at a shelf and found this:

I'm sure some of you guys are familiar with it. It's very awesome, it's got the shooting script, concept art, all the posters, and spin-off cartoons and fan art. It's a true gem, and I got it for only $9, which is pretty good I think considering it's a first edition hardcover (though it's missing its sleeve).

All in all, a very exciting purchase.

Apparently, the "production bought the only 16 of this specific Sony Walkman that were listed on eBay over a 6 month period, and only 3 of the 16 actually worked." Source.

skyjedi2005 said:

The clip i saw was dumb and unoriginal. Could have been lifted straight out of Return of the Jedi .

 Is that a bad thing?

Should be face plam yourself.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Hell, if you really wanna be brutally honest, "Mon Mothma", "Salacious Crumb", and "Porkins" are all stupid names, too, and they all come from the OT.

Salacious Crumb is a shitty name but it perfectly fits that shitty character, which makes it possibly my all time favorite minor SW character name.

darth_ender said:

The hostility at this site towards Kingdom of the Crystal Skull doesn't really surprise me, but the unfavorable comparisons to the Mummy movies does.  All the Mummy movies are extremely hokey in my mind, filled with cheesy humor and extremely unbelievable in many respects, even in its own suspension of disbelief.  I enjoy them, but they are not great movies, and in my mind inferior to Crystal Skull.  I don't think the latter is a great movie either, and I was really disappointed with how it turned out, but even critics and audiences agree with me that none of the Mummy films are as good as Crystal Skull.  Just check out Rotten Tomatoes.  Tomb of the Dragon Emperor did especially poorly, so I just don't see the comparison.

 Yep, yeah, this. Quoted for truth.

I was surprised to read that the film received fairly poor reviews when it was released, but Carrey's best movie? No way. The Truman Show, Man on the Moon, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind are certainly his best.

The Cable Guy (1996) - An entertaining comedy. It's a bit tonally inconsistent (is it a light and wacky slapstick comedy? or a unnerving dark comedy?) and I wonder if they could have expanded upon the TV obsessed nature of the titular maniac (also, there seems to be a "society watches too much TV" message that was practically an afterthought), but Jim Carrey brings his A-game and is a delight to watch. B

It is annoying that George couldn't make it line up with the preexisting OT, but, if I were to change anything when it comes to Padme's fate, it would be the line in ROTJ. In that film, the line is rather inconsequential. I disagree that it;s a big deal. I could have been, maybe even should have been. But it's one line that barely factors into the conversation Luke and Leia are having. If you took the line out, the film is practically the same.

In ROTS, however, Padme's death is the source of much genuine emotional power, and is one of the film's strongest aspects. It's what really makes Anakin's story a tragedy. If you took it out, you would be making the film worse.

Boyhood's at 100 on Metacritic so I think you can forget about the RLM.

Tom Cruise, inventor of the hover-round?

Well I'd imagine even if there's some sort of galaxy spanning internet, it wouldn't be hard to see why Tatooine might not have it. Also, I don't think it's so hard to believe the Empire would be able to completely suppress info about the jedi. 

More generally I don't think I believe there is a galaxy spanning internet. Star Wars is more of a fantasy than a sic-fi story, so I like to see it in fantasy terms. I'm sure there are books and such around about the jedi, and people tell tales of course, but I'm not surprised that in his years on the run, Luke was not able to attain a photograph of Yoda. As well, I doubt Tatooine is a place of much culture, so I doubt too that Luke would have heard about Anakin from anyone but Owen.

Joel Edgarton. Good actor.

I haven't complained about the animation before but everyone's right it really does look unfinished, which is a great shame because many of the backgrounds look great, it's really just the people that look weird. But whatever, I'll get over it.

The only other thing I don't like is the childish monologuing. But whatever, I'll get over it.

Getting past those things, this show actually looks really great.

SilverWook said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Stumbled onto this alternate 1980 Coca-Cola poster I'd never seen before...

Boris Vallejo's paint work is fantastic and much more fantasy styled than than most posters but the Duel-Lightsaber-wielding Vader looks hilarious to me. Almost like he could be shouting "Yeaaarrggh f**k the Rebels!"

I think it's the small size of the sabers that makes the image look silly. If they were closer in size to the film sabers then it would look much better.

Oh, and Vader's oversized arms/hands probably don't help any, either.  

 It's called artistic license. If we're going to nitpick posters, Luke never had the muscles depicted on this one anymore than Leia showed that much leg, or had such impressive space knockers in the movie. ;)

I want to see action figures based on this.

 I have a Luke action figure that looks like that! Let me see if I can find a pic...

JEDIT: It's the one on the right

He's from back in the nineties, got him when I was a kid. The boots aren't quite right but he's got the muscles.

SilverWook said:

Those were the days. None of the cantina aliens were burdened with a backstory and you could make stuff up.

As a kid, I always thought Hammerhead was a friendly fellow, since we never see him do anything bad unlike those other three fellows. ;)

 But haven't you heard? Those backstories aren't canon anymore!

I always just called him butt face.

Last Action Hero (1993) - Based on its reputation, I was surprised to find that this film is not terrible. In fact, it is an entirely enjoyable Arnie action film. Its biggest crime is not making better use of its brilliant concept however. Honestly, watching this, I kept seeing all different ways this could have been more interesting. Unfortunately, the first half is mainly spent within the "Slater IV" movie, with things playing out largely as they would, only the kid is there to comment on the proceedings. He doesn't affect the plot in any real way, even though there seems to be the promise that he will with his knowledge of blockbuster tropes (also the kid is awful, super annoying). The worst part is that we can't take the action seriously because they're making fun of it, but at the same time there's a lot of action and not so many jokes. Then we go into the real world and things do get interesting, but then devolve into general action movie proceedings, with intriguing stuff like Slater meeting Arnie brushed aside, as well as the potential for jumping into other movies and taking characters out from those movies into the real world. Props for Ian McKellan as Death from The Seventh Seal, but ultimately that character has practically zero purpose. It's a shame, this film could have been a whole lot better. Still, pretty good though. B-

Silent Movie (1976) - A unique idea for a modern comedy and I think it works rather well. It, however, does not quite reach the same comic heights as Mel Brooks's best work, which is a shame. I, too, feel that there might have been some missed opportunities. I wish Brooks had gone more meta with this, as he often does. As is, the film feels a little slight, but that's okay I guess. I fun hour and a half. B 

Okay