DominicCobb

These necroposters are getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

I'm still 90% sure all the "spoilers" that we've heard so far are BS, but I don't like seeing them all the same. I'm jumping ship on the spoiler thread too, now.

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

imperialscum said:

Anyway I am way too young to know rock albums. Even vinyl albums predates me.

 I bet I'm about your age or younger, and I have a somewhat extensive knowledge of classic rock.

 Yeah, same.

You two didn't get the joke here...

And you can both have a gold medal in knowing "classic rock" more than me. I am into Jazz anyway.

Do you know what the word joke means? 

I guess it really didn't classify as a joke but rather as a sophisticated humour. Too sophisticated, judging by your serious reply.

 Oh, my bad, you're just an asshole.

Do people not call people by their titles? No one calls anyone "general" in the SW films? Never understood that complaint.

I thought the special was pretty good. Obviously you can't please everyone. I personally thought they should have ditched the musical guests, amongst other things, but overall I found it satisfactorily funny and nostalgic.

Ryan McAvoy said:

timdiggerm said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

I don't recall it being spoken in that scene.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVHnnzgQlG4#t=52

As I thought.

 ??? If this is a joke I don't get it.

imperialscum said:

DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

imperialscum said:

Anyway I am way too young to know rock albums. Even vinyl albums predates me.

 I bet I'm about your age or younger, and I have a somewhat extensive knowledge of classic rock.

 Yeah, same.

You two didn't get the joke here...

And you can both have a gold medal in knowing "classic rock" more than me. I am into Jazz anyway.

Do you know what the word joke means? 

I typically consider discriminatory speech to be the worst human sound.

moviefreakedmind said:

imperialscum said:

Anyway I am way too young to know rock albums. Even vinyl albums predates me.

 I bet I'm about your age or younger, and I have a somewhat extensive knowledge of classic rock.

 Yeah, same.

Defining rock is always quite hard, but interesting nonetheless. Classic rock is my favorite genre, but I also appreciate rock in the roll, pop, hard, prog, indie, and alternative variety.

Are we so sure that classic rock isn't 80s too? It's definitely not 90s, but rock in the 80s sounds a lot like in the 70s but just a little less raw. The classic rock stations I listen to play a good deal of 80s stuff. Perhaps the perception of it depends on when you were born.

Or maybe we're getting a little too stringent with these genre definitions? Isn't Pink Floyd progressive rock anyway? 

Love all their stuff by the way, but there's a reason why Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and The Wall (and to a lesser extent Animals) are their classics - it's because those are the best.

Best Beatles album is Revolver, by the way.

skyjedi2005 said:

I saw the Fast Seven trailer during the Superbowl and was reminded that the next star trek could be as stupid.

Bayformers level stupid.  So bad that people will think JJ Abrams Trek movies were good.

There has been remarkably no news since the new director was hired.  Unlike Star Wars and Bond.

 I'm glad this is off topic so there's nothing wrong with me calling you an idiot.

After much thinking, it has to be The Who's Quadrophenia.

As a collection of songs it may not be my favorite, but as a whole, it really takes the cake. I appreciate a good concept album and/or rock opera, and this is probably the best one. It tells a compelling story, it has themes (musical and otherwise) that repeat throughout, it's really quite great, and, more importantly, enjoyable.

While I love Pink Floyd's The Wall, and others like it, some of the songs can be a bit of a slog when played on their own, which decreases the replay value of the album itself for me. Quadrophenia is the only double album where I actually love every song. They all work together to form the whole, but I enjoy them separately as well. I can listen to it all the way through over and over again without tiring of it. I just listened to it a couple times this morning actually. 

It also helps that I saw the band perform the concert live a couple years back.

Anyway, if you haven't fallen in love with Quadrophenia yet, get on it.

I'm a little late, but congrats on the new job Harmy. It is very much deserved.

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/spider-man-marvel-sony-movies-1201429508/

Spectacular news! Never thought it would happen.

This is the third Monday in a row we've had a blizzard in Boston. And I was sick of the snow before the first one. So I'm pretty annoyed at this point.

Most would say "No, I am your father," or "May the force be with you."

But I'll go with "now there are two of them!"

Not sure what you mean honestly, but Netflix does release their content on DVD and Blu-ray a few months after it premieres.

Never really got into the games but a series could be interesting. A friend of mine says that he's going to be pissed if Link talks. Sounds like the dumbest thing ever. I don't care if he doesn't talk in the games, he better talk in the show or I won't watch.

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

darth_ender said:

darth_ender said:

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 Cobb, I don't care about you "prowling" my thread.  I've been attacked elsewhere, including politics, where I know you have at least trodden before.  But perhaps you have missed such things.  No matter.  Look at my above quote.  Perhaps I can sound holier than thou, but reread the quote, particularly the underlined part.  I am sharing my personal views and why I find the book, not you, so offensive.  I don't understand why you, hairy_hen, and everyone else so passionate about personal liberty (which I too value, but only along with personal responsibility) is so up in arms about.  The book is offensive to me.  I shared it as a random thought.  You don't find it offensive and feel that near pornographic films and books should be accessible to teens.  I disagree.  It's my random thought.  I'm sorry that you think it is so horrible of me to use my personal liberties to express my personal views in a random thoughts thread.

 I rarely enter the politics thread as it never fails to give me a headache. Engaging in discussion there usually goes nowhere. 

Notice that your holier than thou attitude comes through in that very quote you underlined: "but I understand if not everyone cares about such virtues." The fact that you think we are people who just "don't care" about virtues is a little condescending. We simply do not find waiting until marriage for sex a virtue. That does not make us virtueless people.

I never said that those like you are virtueless people.  I am a well liked person, pretty popular in my social circles, where most think more like you.  This would not be the case were that what I were saying or secretly believing.  Perhaps my phrasing could be construed that way, and for that I apologize.  But reread it yet again.  You will see that what I am intending is that not everyone considers a virtue what I consider a virtue.  That does not make them without virtue.  Clearly that was my intent.  In other words, not everyone shares my morals.  I don't mean that others do not have morals themselves.

I don't care about how you feel about the book, I noted myself that it is by all means a work of utter garbage. I don't find it offensive and you do, and that's fine. That's not what I find offensive. It's just your attitude. Though perhaps your point is that it is your personal right to find my beliefs immoral? If so, fair enough. But it is unfortunate.

 I never made that point or anything remotely close to it.  So feel free to get offended at what I didn't say, but if you do, that is unfortunate.

While I do find your moral standards different (and admittedly, lower than mine, as I'm sure you find my tolerance for different forms of sexual expression a lower moral than yours, and so you should be able to see that I truly mean no offense by saying so), I am not calling you immoral.  Many people are extremely good, moral people who have different standards on different topics.  I personally feel like our society loves to actually flaunt sex at every turn.  Most of us will not die virgins.  Nearly everyone has sex at some point in their life.  It's part of being human.  But I don't feel we need to have it broadcast on screen, or accept such broadcasts so readily.  That is all my point ever was.  Too bad hairy_hen needs to give Jesus the bird over it.

BTW, there's a chance to defend my beliefs, should you feel so inspired.

 If that was truly your intent then fair enough, I apologize, but it certainly didn't come across that way. Blame it on phrasing I suppose but it really did sound like you were insulting the morals of people like me. 

I'm not a fan of arguing as I think it mostly just leads to resentment on both sides and I don't want to cause that so if you don't mind I'll chalk this all up to misunderstanding on both parts and we can drop it.

By the way, though I respect your beliefs, don't expect me to defend you every chance I get, I never said I would do that. Not sure why you keep with that point. Remember the only reason I brought up your religion was as a comparison, in defending myself. You're plenty capable of defending yourself, you don't need me to pop in every time that your beliefs are threatened, and don't think that I will. I don't and won't expect you to defend me when my beliefs are threatened.

In regards to the possibility of a Solo child, I think it would be strange if, 30 years later, none of the main characters from the OT had had children. So it just seems natural that we'll see one of their offspring in the new film and that they would be one of the major new characters.

darth_ender said:

darth_ender said:

 One could argue that anyone who murders is mentally ill.

But while I avoid overly violent movies, let's look at the difference in interpretation for a minute.  Has society seen in increase in violence due to watching The Godfather or Saving Private Ryan?  I would argue that perhaps not due to these movies, but due to some, there has been some increase, as such violence is seen as "cool".  Nevertheless, overall most people understand that such is not acceptable.

On the other hand, let's look at promiscuity, at sexual abuse.  Though society has indeed come to a greater understanding of women's rights, it appears that sexual violence is in fact on the rise.  Sexual frivolity, infidelity, teen pregnancy, abortions, and the like are certainly much more prevalent than before.  To what can we attribute this rise?  Largely the media portrayal and acceptance of such behavior.

Now I know I am coming from a conservative viewpoint.  I have been married for eight years and have had one sexual partner in all my life, starting with my wedding night and not a moment before.  I am proud of such a lifestyle, but I understand that not everyone cares about such virtues.  Instead, there seems to be a need to "educate" me on BDSM (as if I have a history of engaging in topics I know nothing about).  But let me review why I made my first post, and we shall skip all the differing of more enlightened individuals.

First, 50 Shades of Gray is an erotic novel.  To me, this is pornography.  I oppose the flaunting of sex.  It is called intimacy for a reason.  It is to be shared between the partners and none else.  I made love to my wife last night.  Did I record and upload it for you all to see?  No.  I am keeping it personal.

Second, the novel promotes sex out of marriage.  Obviously I oppose this for reasons already stated.

Third, it treats sex as a form of selfish pleasure rather than selfless giving and sharing.  What did I do with my wife last night?  I didn't screw her, I didn't tap that, I didn't use any other disrespectful term.  I made love, because I feel that when we engaged in sexual contact, it was about loving giving rather than lustful taking.

Fourth, that novel shows BDSM, even if I did find that as a selfless form of sex (I don't), as abuse.  Many who have read it (and I'm going by their opinion, as I have not) feel it shows an abusive, controlling, manipulative relationship, not a giving relationship between equal partners.  So even if you argue that BDSM is a wonderful thing where the submissive is really in control (yeah, I'm sure that's how it always is), this book does not portray it that way.

And fifth, in spite of all this book has going against it, in spite of how trashy and poorly written it is, in spite of the negative psychology correlated with those who are fans of the book, it is a huge bestseller, with a movie made after it, shown just in time for Valentine's Day so that we can celebrate the day of love watching lustful, selfish indulgence and encourage more teens to get pregnant and glorify the worship of such self-serving behavior rather than the outward devotion that true love really is.

And people are buying their Fandango tickets in advance.

I don't care who the primary audience is.  It's a stupid book, it's a filthy movie, and it shows the dysfunction of our society.

I'm off work tonight.  I hope to make love to my wife again.

 Cobb, I don't care about you "prowling" my thread.  I've been attacked elsewhere, including politics, where I know you have at least trodden before.  But perhaps you have missed such things.  No matter.  Look at my above quote.  Perhaps I can sound holier than thou, but reread the quote, particularly the underlined part.  I am sharing my personal views and why I find the book, not you, so offensive.  I don't understand why you, hairy_hen, and everyone else so passionate about personal liberty (which I too value, but only along with personal responsibility) is so up in arms about.  The book is offensive to me.  I shared it as a random thought.  You don't find it offensive and feel that near pornographic films and books should be accessible to teens.  I disagree.  It's my random thought.  I'm sorry that you think it is so horrible of me to use my personal liberties to express my personal views in a random thoughts thread.

 I rarely enter the politics thread as it never fails to give me a headache. Engaging in discussion there usually goes nowhere. 

Notice that your holier than thou attitude comes through in that very quote you underlined: "but I understand if not everyone cares about such virtues." The fact that you think we are people who just "don't care" about virtues is a little condescending. We simply do not find waiting until marriage for sex a virtue. That does not make us virtueless people.

I don't care about how you feel about the book, I noted myself that it is by all means a work of utter garbage. I don't find it offensive and you do, and that's fine. That's not what I find offensive. It's just your attitude. Though perhaps your point is that it is your personal right to find my beliefs immoral? If so, fair enough. But it is unfortunate.

darth_ender said:

DominicCobb said:

Ender, I understand your distaste for Fifty Shades of Grey as it is by all means a shit story, a shit book, and now a shit movie, but I'd really wish you'd tone it down on your condescension towards sexually "frivolous" people. It's rather offensive. I'm sure you wouldn't and don't appreciate others being condescending to you because of your religion. 

 Yes, I'm sure you hold your right to whatever sexual activity in equal sacredness as I do my religious convictions.  Please show me which quote you find so offensive.  I don't see how I was condescending, but rather shared why I feel a book has contributed to moral failings in society.  99% of this whole forum agrees with you rather than me, in that sex need not be saved for marriage, and the same applies with most of my associates in the real world.  I am merely sharing my reasoning as to why I find the book lacking in moral substance, and my moral stance as well.  How dare I?!

Oh, and since you are passionate in defending both everyone's sexual rights as you are my religious rights, I really appreciate all those times you came to my defense when my beliefs were indeed mocked in this very forum with equal vigor.

Oh yeah.  You never did.

I made the comparison to religion because your sexual beliefs are based on your religion. I do not have a religion, so I don't have any convictions of that sort. What I find sacred are my personal liberties, so yes, I suppose I do hold my right to sexual activities in equal sacredness as you do your moral convictions.

I shouldn't have to point out specific points where you were offensive because you know what they were and there are frankly so many of them that I don't have the time or the patience to go through all of them. Let's just say that every time you bring up sexual promiscuity (in this thread and others), you take on a distinct holier than thou attitude and insatiate that those with sexual practices other than your own are immoral. Yes, I am offended that you find me immoral. If you can't see what's wrong with that, that's your problem.

By the way, I have no interest in religion whatsoever so that's why I don't prowl your Mormon thread trying to defend every insult to your religion. But just because I don't defend you doesn't mean I don't believe in your right to your own beliefs. I'm not asking you to defend my beliefs here. I'm just asking that you respect them as I do yours.

I don't believe in God, yes. But I'm not going to criticize those who do. You can believe in whatever you want. I'm not going to judge you. Notice how I'm not criticizing your sexual history. I just wish you would open your mind a bit a respect people with beliefs other than yours. In most cases I find you to be a very reasonable and kind poster here. That's why it's such a shame to see you be so rude and judgmental on this issue. 

Highly doubt they'll do another Death Star, but, if they do, it's good to know it now. The rehash'd be disappointing but if it shouldn't get in the of the quality of the picture itself.

Just like I'm glad I know now that there will only be one IMAX sequence in the film. I don't mind that, most films don't have any IMAX sequences. But I guess it's better to know now than to go in and get disappointed.

Still, I hate spoilers. So I will be ditching this thread come April when the real plot details start to come out, and will likely never see the next trailer. 

Ender, I understand your distaste for Fifty Shades of Grey as it is by all means a shit story, a shit book, and now a shit movie, but I'd really wish you'd tone it down on your condescension towards sexually "frivolous" people. It's rather offensive. I'm sure you wouldn't and don't appreciate others being condescending to you because of your religion. 

Maybe because there's no point to using a Blu-ray player with a SD TV.

Not Part II?