DominicCobb

Fang Zei said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Ronster said:

HDTV Broadcasts are already in terms of quality going to fall behind and how on earth will 8K get transmitted through the air.

Maybe because there will always be bandwidth limits on how high you can go, physical media will make a come back. 2K streaming and 8K physical discs. PT streaming online, and ST and restored OT on 8K Blu-Ray discs ;-)

Seeing as how the ST will likely not be finished at anything higher than 4k, probably not.

Really? It's not like they don't know 8K is a thing. And it's not like they have no foresight. They're not George Lucas, after all.

The problem is no one cares about 3D rereleases anymore. It was a fad that passed. People barely care about 3D movies. Disney started a policy in 2010 that every film they made from then on would be 3D. This year they had two (Cinderella, Tomorrowland) that were 2D. TFA is only 3D because it'll get Disney a couple extra bucks and JJ didn't mind either way. 

Ryan McAvoy said:

SilverWook said:

The rather bony fellow behind him, wise guy! ;)

He's in the first few shots of the trailer, and you can just about tell it's a white guy in a mask... so probably not the Baron in grease paint. The filmmakers probably just forgot and didn't realise it looked a lot like a character they've done before.

 More likely it's a sort of homage to Semedi. 

Those steelbooks look AMAZING.

Bingowings said:

I will once again bore you all to death with my preferred sequence of events.

In ANH there is constant reference to the Rebel Hidden Base and the plans so it makes sense that the final destination of the film is Yavin and the use of the plans to destroy the Death Star. The characters all follow a path to that single destination which results in an action packed end sequence.

I would have Padme on Coruscant representing her people with representative Binks and trying to prevent an invasion diplomatically at the beginning of the film. Have some transmission on the Queen's secret channel cut off and disputed as nonsense in the senate but supported by some Jedi (Dooku, Qui-Gon) with resistance (Maceinyourface Windu). She then heads off home and is shot down over Tatooine. They pick up Anakin after winning the parts to repair the ship and then rescue the significantly damaged planet by Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon landing on the droid command ship fighting droids and finally facing Maul in the reactor room. Obi-Wan shuts down the droid army or sends a full report to the senate and escapes before Anakin purposefully destroys the ship, everyone celebrates and they eat barbecued Jedi Master...

If you've stated this series of events before I must have somehow missed it. I love it, I think it'd be much better. The question is, is it possible?

Baronlando said:

The wording seems vague, "original artwork" might just mean using the old poster. Content-wise, this could be great or some lame repackaging of the existing stuff. 

There's a picture, it actually is the original album art for each of the OT soundtracks.

I am interested in the content as well. The Amazon listing is curious. The CD tracks appear to be the same as the previously released CDs (meaning SE). But the Vinyl and iTunes list tracks from the original soundtrack releases.

More important is probably the quality. The Return of the Jedi CDs sound particularly less than stellar. I wonder if this release will be any better.

I prefer Captain Rex to Ashoka so I mind this less. It does seem unnecessary but at the same time it's uncharted territory. We've never seen old clones and we've never found out what happened to the clones anyway. Should be interesting.

In my mind if they want to restore the theatrical version, that's what they'll do. I don't know why they'd even bother to look at the other home video releases. They should just go right to the start and I'm not sure why they wouldn't.

They might as well get it right the first time. If they don't, it'll be like an itch that can't be scratched - for them because there'll still be complainers, and for us because we'll enjoy it but we'll know it's not quite right.

Akton said:

Lord Haseo said:

It's not really a bad idea to begin with. If Luke were to tell Kylo Ren about the dangers of the Darkside you people would have no problem with it. But because one strand from the prequels would be in the ST then suddenly the idea is shit. Let me ask...who would know most about how toxic the Darkside is? Anakin of course seeing as how he was engulfed in it for decades. I don't see any reasoning for that being a bad idea other than "its bad because prequels"

 

Obi-Wan's ghost, apart from being an exposition delivery vehicle, was there to provide some bare minimum of guidance for Luke on his path to becoming a Jedi. Luke's final glance at the ghosts of his three "fathers" at the end of ROTJ is only meaningful if it is just that - a final glance - which the film strongly implies it is by showing Luke finally turning his back to them and rejoining the world of the living.

Luke emerged from the OT as a fully-formed Jedi. Having the Force Ghosts linger on into the ST would not only diminish his role as the elder mentor figure for the new characters, it would also diminish the very concept of death (at least for Jedi) in the saga. What meaning does Obi-Wan's sacrificial death have (or Anakin's for that matter) if they can just continue to appear in the films and interact with living characters, differing from their former living selves only in that they are a bit bluer and more translucent?

Anakin's story - his arc - is finished, I'd have thought that that was one thing PT haters and lovers could agree on. It falls to Luke to impart wisdom and warnings to the youngsters now - and, as hero of the OT (and the PT too if you consider that he is his father's redeemer), nobody has earned that duty more than him. To have him sit passively off to the side while the ghost of his young-looking father lectures the new villain about the evils of villainy would be all manner of lameness and shite, and we can only be grateful that it is so exceedingly unlikely to occur under the watchful eye of the ST's creative team. 

Thanks for being exactly right.

The sad truth is that you could start cutting scenes that are unnecessary and keep cutting until you realize that you've cut the whole movie out entirely because it was completely unnecessary.

Yep. Turner Classic Movies thankfully played all of his films in May for his 100th birthday so I made sure to record all the ones I hadn't seen. Still need to get around to The Trial, Othello, Chimes at Midnight, and F is for Fake. I also rewatched The Third Man last night and it's as good as ever.

Interested to hear that Mr. Arkadin is rated so lowly. I think it's pretty great if occasionally hard to follow. But maybe it's been criticized based on lesser versions? I saw the 106min Criterion edit which is surely better than whatever hack jobs have been around for the last 60 years.

Beautiful

SilverWook said:

Anchorhead said:

For the record;  He only works in Rogue One.  Completely unnecessary in the ST.

 Anakin would be Vader already though?

Spin-offs give an opportunity for flashbacks I think. But he probably shouldn't be in Rogue One. If Vader is in it I don't think it will be a very big role.

Lord Haseo said:

DominicCobb said:

 Typically that means letting the creative minds do what they want. 

I don't know about all that. If I'm remembering correctly the new Fantastic 4 was a much different movie before the powers in charge interfered with it. 

 I said "typically" on purpose. 

Anyway, I wouldn't mind Hayden returning to the role, but only in the capacity of a spin-off film. A clone wars film would be really neat, but I doubt they'll want to return to that well. If Hayden shows up in an episode there's going to need to be a very good reason.

It's taken me too long to post this. Since May I think. So I'll keep it brief and limit it to the films I saw for the first time.

Journey into Fear (1943) - Solid faux-Welles pic. Not enough suspense. B-

Macbeth (1948) - Amazing real Welles pic. Great cinematography and set design. Must see. A

The Immortal Story (1968) - Intriguing and dark low scale Welles. Very good. B+

Tomorrowland (2015) - Underrated old school adventure flick. Falls apart in the third act, but still worth watching. B-

Mr. Arkadin (1955) - Intricate and engaging. Puzzling and thought-provoking. Good stuff. A-

Jurassic World (2015) - About as good as it could have been. Lots of fun. B

A Fantastic Fear of Everything (2012) - Entertaining and quirky little flick. B-

Village of the Damned (1960) - Classic mystery and suspense film. Kitschy fun. B

Inside Out (2015) - Incredibly, um, emotional film. I laughed, I cried. A-

Horrible Bosses 2 (2014) - Premise wearing thin but still some giggles to be had. B-

Rattle and Hum (1988) - A pseudo-raw look at my favorite band. The interviews fall flat but the concert bits are electric. B

Ant-Man (2015) - There's some fun to be had but there's a lot of wasted potential. Mostly it's forgettable. C+

Trainwreck (2015) - Seemingly a change of pace for a rom com but not really. Funny and effective, but too long. B-

To Catch a Thief (1955) - A lesser Hitchcock effort. Sort of dull and predictable honestly. C+

Wet Hot American Summer (2001) - Hilariously hilarious. B+

Barbarella (1968) - Too good to be bad. Very amusing. B

Twice Upon a Time (1983) - Too bad to be good. Very boring. D

The Big Chill (1983) - Charming and touching. What more could you want? A-

Idiocracy (2006) - Spot on satire. Maybe too silly at times, but isn't that the point? B+

Valkyrie (2008) - An amazing story made empty. B-

Edge of Tomorrow (2014) - Much much better than it should have been. B+

Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation (2015) - How can you not love this franchise? B

Things to Come (1936) - Not much story here, but an interesting look into the future (of the past). B-

The Stranger (1946) - Fantastic Wellesian suspense film. Good enough for me. B

Tommy (1975) - Very strange but also very captivating. Great music, obviously. B

Blackmail (1929) - Light on story but a lot of great Hitchcockian suspense here. B

Murder! (1930) - There is a story here but I'm not sure it makes any sense. The movie's okay. C+

Straight Outta Compton (2015) - Somewhat conventional, but engaging enough to get you into it even if you aren't weren't a fan of the music. B

Jaws (1975) - I said I wasn't going to do any movies I'd seen already but I did see Jaws on the big screen for the first time (in 35mm) and it was the best it's ever been. Thought it was worth mentioning. A+

Black Mass (2015) - The whole is less than the sum of its parts. Some great scenes and performance, but not quite a great film. B+

The Martian (2015) - Funny, compelling, insightful, inspirational, and really quite sensational. A great film. A- 

Higher ups usually want what will give them the most money. Typically that means letting the creative minds do what they want. If they butt in it's because they think what they have to add will give them more money. Adding one of the worst received parts of a poorly received set of films to a fresh new (presumably) well received set of films is not going to help at all. 

The writer/director of Episode VIII has called the SE a cartoon for one.

Hayden will not be in the ST. I am 100% sure of this. If I'm wrong I will gladly eat my shorts.

I have no clue why Disney would release an "original" version of Star Wars with the 81 crawl. Obviously casual fans won't care either way. But no one's going to be mad if it's the 77 crawl. There are a number of people who will be mad if it's the 81 crawl. Basically, there's no reason to do it wrong and at least a fairly good reason to do it right (you know, the fact that it's right). 

Color and audio issues are one thing to worry about but the crawl just seems like worrying for the sake of worrying.

There's an extremely small chance that a restored "original" version of Star Wars will use the 81 crawl. People aren't stupid enough to think that that's the original crawl. More likely is people erroneously complain that ESB doesn't have the original crawl because of the inclusion of the episode number.

^Very true. 

Also ALL of my friends want the OOT. Without my influence I might add. The plight is pretty well known.

darklordoftech said:

Mike O said:

moviefreakedmind said:

CatBus said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I'd love to hear what Landis himself said verbatim, but it seems that Empire magazine interpreted his statement as being the original versions specifically.

Sure, but Landis is already not the first speaker in that game of telephone.  He heard it from Lucas.  Lucas may have said "the original trilogy--yes, John, THE original classic films that started the whole thing, back in 1977, with no changes at all to what I intended all those years ago".  A normal person could walk out of there thinking Star Wars was finally going to get a decent home video release and say that to the press without reservations, but in Lucas-speak, that just means a new 2016 Specialer Edition where Yoda is now CGI.

 I don't think for one second that Disney would allow more changes to the trilogy due to the backlash it gets every time it happens. I could see Disney sweeping it under the rug, continuing to release the 2011 SEs, and then never mentioning the OOT ever again, but adding even more changes I just can't see them doing.

 The backlash from 14 people on the Internet. 99.9999% of the population don't care at all, hence why it was the bestselling Blu-ray of all time when it came out and why it would break box office records in a heartbeat if a new version was released theatrically. People who care about the OOT are a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of a tenth of the population.

What would Disney have to gain from making more changes? What could they possibly want to change? 

I've stated at length why Disney wouldn't want to do this in the 4K thread. Now, why they might: canon.

That's the one thing that'd make them pause. Now that there's apparently a story group, there's certainly a question of which version they consider canon. Right now it's the SE. But with the OOT release likely impending, and with people like Rian Johnson being the main authors of the new continuity, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some conversations about changing that. But then what, the OOT is canon and the SE isn't anymore? Would they want to change their minds? Would that switch actually change anything, continuity-wise?

Probably not. But if the quandary really gets under their skin, we could see a new version. Ultimately, though, I think it's not worth the effort and most people will probably say "who cares" anyway.

I feel like Lucas doesn't really care anymore so I could easily see him casually saying "yeah Disney's going to put out the old version that were shown in theaters."

As much as we all hate Lucas for his betrayal of the OT, ultimately I think not releasing the OOT was just him indulging in a bit of megalomania. People say he resents or is embarrassed by the OT and he wants to repress it or something but I'm not sure that was ever actually his intent. 

TV's Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Many consider Werewolf to be his best film.

 Best film has nothing to do with it.  When you're writing a story, do you reference someone's best, or someone's most famous?

Fair point, though it's a cult fave (especially with nerdy types) so that's probably why it was used in an article about Star Wars. 

Also, I think Trading Places is more popular than Three Amigos.

Many consider Werewolf to be his best film.