DominicCobb

Yes.

joefavs said:

I’m still more excited about Rogue One than I’ve been for anything non-SW in longer than I can remember, but yeah, it’s not anywhere near the same level as TFA. I imagine I’ll be losing my mind for VIII this time next year, but even then it won’t be the same. Which is fine and to be expected, given that I spent most of my life wishing for a sequel trilogy that I never believed would happen and then three years obsessively anticipating it. Now that A.) new SW movies are a definite, concrete thing and B.) they’re coming out annually, we’ll just never have that situation again.

This is how I feel. It’ll literally be impossible to ever be excited for anything as much as TFA. If was the follow up to the OT, after so many years. Probably better not to compare to that.

Still, it’s actually kind of absurd how unexcited I am for Rogue One. When I think about it, I should be, but what I feel, it’s just not there. I could probably never see it and it wouldn’t really irk me at all.

Part of this is just because I see the story as extraneous (I mean obviously it’s its own thing but there’s no immediacy to seeing it in regards to the larger narrative). The main thing though I think is because I’ve really kept myself far away from the promotional stuff. I have not seen a single second of footage. So while I’m not excited, because I haven’t seen what I should be excited for, that’s by design. I want to be taken by surprise. I think that’d be fun. And if it sucks? Who cares. But I think it should be good.

Meanwhile I’m already pumping up for VIII. Can’t wait for that, and only a little over a year away. I think that’s my main beef with the anthologies, is that it’s too much too soon. My TFA lead up lasted all year (with books, comics, etc.). I’ll do that again next year but I can’t have my whole life taken up by SW, so sorry Rogue One.

Also, I’d love to hear the argument for reading Catalyst before RO.

In the version of the film where R2 is the protagonist, getting to the Falcon in docking bay 94 is the climax.

joefavs said:

Already they’re doing an admirable job of retconning the Death Star plans’ appearance in AOTC into something that makes sense.

Curious how so.

Ryan McAvoy said:

DominicCobb said:

Wish I had words for you guys.

I’ve had a rough go of it myself these last couple months. Doesn’t look like it’ll be getting better anytime soon. I’m honestly in a very dark place right now. I’m usually very optimistic about everything but that’s taken a sharp 180. I would never think of suicide but it’s probably safe to say that I’m at least depressed. Hard to see right now how not everything fucking sucks.

It happens to everyone at some point (For some reason, or for no reason)… then years later you look back at that point and you can’t even work out how you got into that head-space. Trust me it’ll happen.

I know this is only the interwebz but you have friends here and over on fanedit.org who appreciate you.

ThrowgnCpr said:

^Ryan is right. You’re not alone Dom. The last couple of years have been filled with a lot of lows for me too. Know you have friends in this community (including FE) that really care. It’s a crazy time right now, but we’re here with you.

TV’s Frink said:

I can’t find a good gif of this, but I’m with you too Dom.

Thanks guys. I appreciate it.

I know I’ll be okay. It’s just rough sometimes.

Wish I had words for you guys.

I’ve had a rough go of it myself these last couple months. Doesn’t look like it’ll be getting better anytime soon. I’m honestly in a very dark place right now. I’m usually very optimistic about everything but that’s taken a sharp 180. I would never think of suicide but it’s probably safe to say that I’m at least depressed. Hard to see right now how not everything fucking sucks.

I wrote in Barack Obama.

Tyrphanax said:

The thing about Star Wars is that I can sit down and watch it whenever. It never gets old to me. It’s like a comfort food or a bad day cure.

I can just sit down with it when I need cheering up and it does that. I can throw it on on a cloudy day off in bed and have a great day off. I can just toss it on any time and it’s never old and never too much.

Have I seen movies that have made me think more, or had amazing camera work, or incredible writing and deep characters and twisty plots, movies that are probably objectively better, but with pretty much every movie I’m one and done. Not so with Star Wars.

That’s why it’s my favorite.

Exactly.

Bingowings said:

Sometimes. Favourite movies are like best friends. Why have one?

Well, it depends. I have a lot of best friends and a lot of favorite movies. And I get that, hard to pick just one from either category, I very much enjoy spending time with all of them equally.

But then I have to admit that there’s exceptions. Star Wars I just love so much, I can spend so much more time with it that I have to admit it’s my number one. And sometimes you have a friend that you can just talk to whenever and you just want to spend all your time with them and can never get enough of them and there’s no doubt they’re your number one, but then sometimes that friend decides they don’t want to spend any more time with you and they want to move on but you don’t and you’re stuck still wanting to talk to them all the time but you know you can’t because they don’t want to anymore and then you’re all alone and you start to become a bit depressed and hate everything in your life…

Except movies don’t do that! So I’ll always have Star Wars.

Tyrphanax said:

I’m annoyed that I have to hold off on listening to my Christmas radio station until my self-imposed date of “After Thanksgiving.”

I love getting into the spirit, but I don’t wanna do it too early.

Too much Christmas music too soon at a young age has probably turned me off to Christmas music forever. Be careful, after Thanksgiving sounds about right.

suspiciouscoffee said:

For me, yes, the original and Empire are nearly tied as my favorite, with the original barely beating out Empire.

This is how I feel.

bkev said:

I know the most about Star Wars. Which is to say, I know more about it (and to a lesser extent ESB and ROTJ) than I do about any other film. It’s the reason I have an eye for filmmaking tricks in film, special effects involved or not, at all.

Favorite =/= best. Star Wars might be my favorite film, but it isn’t the best one I’ve ever seen.

Yeah. I could probably make an argument that Star Wars is the best movie ever but it’s not what I believe. I’d be completely lying though if I said anything other than SW was my favorite. It just is, I can’t change that, it’s a part of who I am.

Me.

You might not like this episode.

joefavs said:

I haven’t been especially looking forward to this one, as I usually find the Mandalorians to be pretty boring. Hopefully it will surprise me.

Well, I really liked the TCW episodes on them. The problem I have with the Mandos in Rebels is that the episodes on them so few and far between, it’s hard to really get a grasp on what’s going on with them. So I don’t know, if you find Mandalorian politics boring then don’t worry, cause that aspect is pretty much glossed over here so we can get straight to the action.

ATMachine said:

The first instance I can recall of another film aping SW in this regard is the first Pirates of the Caribbean film. I could be wrong though. Still, that’s a nearly 25-year gap, which itself suggests how unusual SW’s opening once was.

You haven’t seen a single film from 77-03 that didn’t have opening credits? Hell, even just two years later Apocalypse Now didn’t have any on screen titles whatsoever.

Not to mention SW was far from the first film to do this.

Really enjoyed Doctor Strange. Funny, last year was Ultron and Ant-Man, which made me tired of the team-ups and the origin stories and Marvel in general. This year it’s flipped completely with the best team-up yet and the best solo origin story since Iron Man. Can’t say I’m not excited for what’s to come. New ranking:

1. Captain America: Civil War
2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3. Iron Man
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. The Avengers
6. Doctor Strange
7. Iron Man 3
8. Captain America: The First Avenger
9. Thor
10. The Incredible Hulk
11. The Avengers: Age of Ultron
12. Iron Man 2
13. Ant-Man
14. Thor: The Dark World

It was kinda fun when Nolan did it but now it’s gotten tiresome. And at least Nolan had the decency to make the title the first credit shown, unlike the Marvel movies which go through all the other stuff first. I mean really, when the title of your film doesn’t show up until 3 minutes into the end credits, I think there’s a problem there.

New episode’s good!

I think the film will start soft. The absence of the blast of the main theme will give the film a different feel right out of the gate and I think they’d want to capitalize on that. So maybe the title will just fade in.

Or maybe we won’t see the title until the end of the film? That’s become very common nowadays.

The Leia deleted scene, whereabouts in the film you reckon it takes place?

As I said, this should be a movie set in the Star Wars universe, not a Star Wars movie. There’s the Star Wars style and the Star Wars universe. They are two separate things. Comic books and video games are invariably trying to give you the experience of reading or playing a Star Wars movie. The crawl helps to further that aesthetic to bring them closer to the Star Wars style (despite not being the medium the style belongs to). Notice games like Republic Commando, which try to replicate the Star Wars universe but not style, are devoid of crawls.

Rogue One’s goals are completely different. The aesthetics that are important there are the in universe ones. A crawl is a presentational aesthetic, not an inherent part of the Star Wars universe. If Rogue One is going to break from the Star Wars style in so many ways (if it’s not totally chronological, if it’s devoid of swashbuckling, if the music has a different tone, etc.), then it doesn’t make any sense to keep a key element of that style, the crawl.

I will say, and I’ve said it before, I do think it’d be a mistake to ditch the “A long time ago…” card. Less an element of the Star Wars style and more a signpost that tells you you’re about to enter the Star Wars universe. So it’d make sense to keep that consistent.

Spongebob gets real old real fast. This is something I knew to be true even as a kid.

I’d be disappointed if they didn’t drop the crawl. This is less a Star Wars movie and more a movie set in the Star Wars universe. The crawl (and wipes) are part of the serial vibe that the saga films are going for. If the anthology pictures are supposed to go for different vibes, it makes little sense to include a crawl. How many war movies have crawls?

When you think about it, it makes sense that the majority of millenials are shit, because the majority of humans are shit.