Kathleen Kennedy’s hyper-feminism.
Oh. You’re one of those. Gross.
And you’re one of THOSE. Even worse.
(Moderation seems really biased around here.)
Fuck off. We don’t need to infect a perfectly good thread with sexism.
Thanks for the heads up, but I figured this would be the case. I’ve done it before (my ROTS edit for example), it’s a pain but sometimes it’s worth it. I know they already used some of the track in the scene so it might not be the hardest thing ever.
I will work on having Threepio mention ‘Master Anakin’ after his memories are restored rather than Rey. It could be fun.
I’d love to see that.
And Coruscant to tie into the PT. Why did they keep copping out? TFA I somewhat understand, but by TROS they knew fans wanted to see something more original.
So you wished they had gone back to Coruscant because… you wanted something original?
I think most people wanted a break from the OT retread. Part of that originality includes acknowledging the PT’s existence, and if the First Order in charge of the galaxy, the only reason they wouldn’t be based on Coruscant is because Disney is afraid of breaking from the OT’s shadow.
It seems like two separate gripes that you have that you’re conflating.
It’s a bit different, but both derive from the common thread: the ST (or at least TFA and TROS) are obsessed with recreating the OT.
I mean, I think TROS did a pretty good job in terms of new planets/environments. Only really Pasaana and Ajan Kloss could be considered ‘OT retreads’ or whatever (and even with Ajan Kloss we never spent that much time outside on Yavin IV).
And Coruscant to tie into the PT. Why did they keep copping out? TFA I somewhat understand, but by TROS they knew fans wanted to see something more original.
So you wished they had gone back to Coruscant because… you wanted something original?
I think most people wanted a break from the OT retread. Part of that originality includes acknowledging the PT’s existence, and if the First Order in charge of the galaxy, the only reason they wouldn’t be based on Coruscant is because Disney is afraid of breaking from the OT’s shadow.
It seems like two separate gripes that you have that you’re conflating.
Heya! I’m the guy that made that~
Thanks for posting, I tried throwing it up on Reddit but it just got shit on so I deleted it ahah. Glad people here are enjoying it somewhat!It took talent to get something to look this good, technically. While everyone seems very excited about this, someone has to come in with an alternate opinion to push for something better. The bottom line is with the footage used, Kylo looks fat, extra goofy, and is making a weird, kind of unnatural face. While Anakin looks somewhat wooden, Kylo looks like a cartoon. I know you wanted Kylo smiling, but if this is the best result possible with smiling, then maybe consider not smiling an option. For me, Anakin is not necessary at all.
Maybe we could try being constructive instead of calling Kylo a “fat cartoon” over and over.
For example, instead of saying “fat” you could say his face is a little too big for his head. I think the “weird, unnatural face” isn’t that weird, I’d actually say the problem is the face and the head nod combo that looks off - I think if you went with one or the other it might work better.
I wish they had stuck with Micheal writing all 3 films instead of opting for a rush job.
I wish they had kept Rian on for VIII and IX. By all means TLJ wasn’t a rush job and the final chapter could have used some cohesion.
JJ was on as the director,and a pretty capable one, but by no means should they have replaced an Oscar winning writer for him.
I mean, JJ was the one who decided on replacing him, and he brought in Lawrence Kasdan, who has 4 Oscar nominations. I don’t think on paper that’s unreasonable.
And Coruscant to tie into the PT. Why did they keep copping out? TFA I somewhat understand, but by TROS they knew fans wanted to see something more original.
So you wished they had gone back to Coruscant because… you wanted something original?
I might try to make the glowing effect more intense and see how that looks. I actually have it oscillate more rapidly when it is in Ben’s hand, as if the lightsaber is adjusting to Ben’s intensity.
I’m not sure what would be a good alternative effect that could be applied to the lightsaber. Since the instability of the Kylo Ren blade has some symbolic meaning, I feel the Skywalker Saber effect should have some equivalent symbolism for Rey’s state of being.
Might be interesting to have Rey’s be sort of electric as opposed to Kylo’s fiery one, to tie in with the Force lightning. I like the idea of glowing for Rey though, I see what you did there. Maybe the glow can get really bright and almost overwhelm the blue.
I have mentioned before that I was a bit disappointed that the Skywalker saber did change at all, really, despite TLJ creating the opportunity for Rey to build a saber of her own. Since we can’t give her a new lightsaber, I thought it would be interesting if broken crystal resulted in some kind of visual effect that paralleled the instability of Kylo Ren’s cracked crystal. But instead of it being fiery and unstable, it could pulsate rhythmically. This is sort of an example of what I was thinking. This first test is really subtle, maybe too subtle, but I think it gives the saber a living, breathing quality to it.
I like the idea of changing the saber, and that’s a nice idea, but unfortunately I think it’s too subtle, in part because it sort of just resembles the OG lightsaber effect.
Something more out there would be nice. I also think it’d be cool if when Rey gives Ben the saber if it goes back to normal.
That clip is good work.
For me, ideally you’d want to get rid of Anakin, put Ben in white robes and on the other side (by his mother). One day I’ll have to give it a go myself, but I’ll have to beef up my skills in the meantime. That’s not gonna be an easy task.
Just add an alien voice to 3PO (or change it somehow) and subtitles so that he clearly states that the Wayfinder is in the Emperor’s throne room.
Again, even that’s not necessary.
I don’t have a problem with the Goonies dagger personally (who said it’s ancient? even if it is, it’s the Force and all), but cutting it out is really easy. You just cut it out. Once they find the Death Star it shouldn’t be hard for Rey to intuit the wayfinder’s location. Don’t need the dagger to point at anything.
Why can’t she just have innate Force powers? Her usage of the Force never felt like a mystery to be solved to me. It’s just protagonist business.
Something something Mary Sue.
To be fair, she picked it up much more quickly than anyone else in the galaxy, including the literal Chosen One.
I don’t know why somehow everyone thinks “picks it up more quickly” means “most powerfulest person ever.” Also, I’m pretty sure I remember the Chosen One internalizing a quick Force pep talk and going from never finishing a pod race to winning the big one (first for a human), perfectly passing the Jedi council test, and destroying the Trade Federation spaceship, all at the age of nine. Not that we need to relitigate the most obnoxious argument of all time.
Why can’t she just have innate Force powers? Her usage of the Force never felt like a mystery to be solved to me. It’s just protagonist business.
Something something Mary Sue.
Was RO shot on film or digital?
Digital.
Ep.7-9 however were shot on film.
Looking at RO now I would never believe it.
Personally I think it looks distinctly digital (not a bad thing) but it’s probably the lens choice that’s tricking you, I’d imagine.
There’s a variety of screenshots here if you look back. It’s much colder looking.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars/id/16857/page/283
I don’t see any PT screenshots there.
It’s so weird how redundant Palpatine and the Final Order are in TROS. It’s like JJ had the idea for TFA “wouldn’t it be cool if there was some Sith mastermind secretly plotting the Empire’s revenge in the unknown regions?” and then because the gist of that idea got diluted in the finished film, he was just like “let’s try it again” for TROS. It’s funny how people say Rian ignored everything in TFA, but he was just going off the way TFA set things up, with the First Order as the Empire 2.0. In the end it was JJ who decided to ditch what was already set up for something else.
That being said, in regards to the topic, I think if they had set up Palpatine and his secret Final Order on Exegol in the first film of the trilogy (and ditched Snoke and the First Order and Starkiller), I wouldn’t really have a problem with it. One of the biggest issues is how much it comes out of nowhere.
Just to clarify, that’s just a video I found on YouTube,
Ha, gotcha, I think the way you worded your post lead me that way, plus I guess I tend to assume when someone posts a video with a low view count it’s their own.
as for the aspect of triumph I think that could definitely be played around with.
“battle over Coruscant” is just so grandiose that I think it fits perfectly with the Peoples Fleet reveal.
Grandiose it definitely is, but I think the tone is just wrong for that moment.
I thought the score for the fleet’s arrival was a little too triumphant, as if they already won before the battle had even started, I think something like this would have worked better.
https://youtu.be/KYDeNziSwFc
I don’t have a problem with the music choice as is, but even considering your point, I think you took it too far. Not that what you picked doesn’t fit the scene, I just don’t think it’d fit the context of what’s going on. First of all, the battle has already started, but this track feels very much like “alright guys this is gonna be tough let’s get to work,” but we’ve already seen that portion of the battle. Second, it should be at least a little triumphant, Poe and the rest think they’ve just lost it all right before the fleet arrives - and it’s a surprisingly massive fleet that arrives - so it should be a bit of a victorious cheer moment.
That said…
I think it should be a mix of both, with the original track starting when the battle shifts to the Resistances favour.
If anything I’d argue for the opposite. A taste of victory when they arrive, then shift to a bit less chipper a mood because the battle’s not over yet.
On an unrelated note, in the novelization, when Lando and the fleet arrive at Exegol there’s a moment where a bunch of different ships call in. “Mon Calamari fleet standing by. Ghost standing by.” Stuff like that. It’s got Inferno Squad, the Aces from resistance, Alphabet Squadron all calling in. Could be a cool way to expand on the final battle to show that the whole galaxy has united together.
Here I go (so genuine apologies in advance)
Considering some of the valid criticisms about the ST being reliant on ‘fan service’ this suggestion really accentuates that?
It’s not that it’s a bad idea, but I don’t see how it adds anything?
Personally, I wish they had done a scene like this in the film. The moment is nice as is, but there’s a big difference between seeing a million ships and actually seeing the faces of the people inside their cockpit. Having a roll call would have been a nice way to not only humanize the big money shot, but also give the moment a breather (basically nothing happens in the space battle from this point on), and really give this specific climax the sense that it is the saga’s climax.
That said, I don’t think there’s a feasible way to do this in a fan edit.
My thoughts are simple: there are ways they could have done it that might have worked. This was not one of those ways.
I think it’s also worth remembering some people will want the best possible presentation of the Prequels, and even though the D+ versions aren’t as different - they’re still a better transfer than the 2011 blus, correct?
I believe they are the same.
According to thedigitalbits TPM is a new scan which was also used for the 3D re-release (there’s still a lot of DNR in an attempt to blend the film elements and digital scenes) and AOTC and ROTS are based on the old 2K masters (they were shot in 1080p but mastered in 2K) but with additional upscaling and “film look” processing to bring them to 4K. The grades are also slightly different.
The Blu-Rays included in the new set are downscales of the new 4K master, not the same as the old blu-rays.
I’d be curious to see a comparison.
I think it’s also worth remembering some people will want the best possible presentation of the Prequels, and even though the D+ versions aren’t as different - they’re still a better transfer than the 2011 blus, correct?
I believe they are the same.
Some of us have no interest in 4k. No 4k TV’s, no 4k player. I still watch DVD’s quite often. I’m watching an upscale of the EU broadcast (widescreen SD) of the 97 SE TESB as I type.
So you don’t care about resolution, you have no problem watching a DVD of the 97 ESB SE. Fair enough. But are you really that interested in the 19SEs? The changes have only gotten worse since 97.
Because they are a better transfer than the crap 2011 versions
This exactly.
Granted, we’re talking about niches of niches here (people who prefer physical media, prefer that physical media to be blu-ray, and people who care what version of Star Wars it is they own on physical blu-ray) but just in case you’re a Star Wars fan who wants an official release to look as good as possible and isn’t interested in either Disney+ or piracy - these blu-rays are the answer.
I guess that’s fair. In my mind people are just going to watch Despecialized or the 4K restorations, and if they really care that much about the SE they’ll either get the 4K or use D+. But there is a small, incredibly niche audience in there that isn’t covered, I suppose.