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- If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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ok man
ok man
I mean it’s also a classic movie prop? I’d love to own that.
La La Land is fucking great.
Look, depression is a serious thing. You don’t tell people “That’s depression” based on some vague symptoms. That is like telling people “That’s cancer” when you hear they have some health problem. Someone might get unnecessary worried and stressed out. People should learn how to phrase things correctly.
That’s an asshole.
Am I doing it right?
You also have to take into account that a lot of stuff these days is shot purely for the trailers and has no bearing on the actual film
I mean, you’re not wrong. I just wanted to be naive since the way TFA was marketed, I felt that its trailers were far more faithful to what we saw in theaters. Shots/dialogue that didn’t make it into the final cut, really had no effect on the film itself, so it was dismissable. Rogue One looks like it went off the rails big time when comparing trailers vs final cut.
But yeah, I totally get your stance; I made the mistake thinking that since TFA had an arguably solid ad-campaign, that it would also apply to this recent SW film.
Rogue One is a rare case in that so much of it was changed after the fact. The trailers weren’t purposefully misleading.
I honestly think trailers are almost completely worthless, and I’d highly recommend people avoid them as much as possible, especially for a film your going to see.
Find active stuff that you love. Music is a great outlet.
Your life is what you make it. It’s easy to hate the life you have. But you just have to know that there’s always the possibility of a happier life out there and, as much of a bitch as it is, you have to work for it.
Well shit looks like they have ones for all the scores too.
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.
Oh interesting. I was worried it’d just be some dudes talking about which music was “memorable” and “hummable” or something. Might have to check it out.
As for Giacchino, he said in an interview something about his brother I think encouraged him to take the job because he’s been writing it in his head for the last 40 years. So in some ways I feel like the homages might have been the easy part. Still, an amazing feat.
It’s really worth a listen. I don’t often post links like that so I make sure they’re actually worthwhile first hahaha.
Cool. I have heard good things but I guess I’m just skeptical in general (especially of SW podcasts, of which there are far too many). Will probably take a listen soon.
Report: solid listen. That one guy knows his stuff. It’s one thing to point out themes, but it’s another thing to do a technical, musical breakdown from an actual musician. That’s not something I have much knowledge of, so it’s very cool to hear (and I love that he has a piano for demonstration). Very interested to find out what he has to say about the TFA soundtrack.
You’ll be happy to learn there’s a four-part series on it!
http://www.rebelforceradio.com/shows/2015/12/30/star-wars-oxygen-vol-25-the-force-awakens-part-1
Perfect.
Now we just need to find someone 10 years younger than Dom.
I was six in 2007. But I never dressed up as Vader. What a travesty.
And I wasn’t born in 91. So we’re not really getting anywhere, are we?
We have our very first anthology film and people are already complaining about fatigue.
You know, yeah it’s definitely silly to complain about fatigue, especially since is only the fifth non-bullshit Star Wars movie in 40 years. But I do think it’s a legitimate fear. I think, quality aside, RO definitely did end up being much more of a classic SW film than many were expecting, and much more directly linked to the main saga (and much less standalone). If these spin-offs don’t become more of their own thing, I definitely would begin to worry about over saturation.
Not yet of course, though I will admit, when the classic end credits popped up at then end, one of my first thoughts was that something here didn’t feel right. Maybe I’m just used to having to wait 3 years or more (forever it at one point seemed) for new Star Wars, but there is a part of my that doesn’t think we should have been getting a random SW tale in the one year in between VII and VIII. Maybe I’m just crazy like that?
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.
Oh interesting. I was worried it’d just be some dudes talking about which music was “memorable” and “hummable” or something. Might have to check it out.
As for Giacchino, he said in an interview something about his brother I think encouraged him to take the job because he’s been writing it in his head for the last 40 years. So in some ways I feel like the homages might have been the easy part. Still, an amazing feat.
It’s really worth a listen. I don’t often post links like that so I make sure they’re actually worthwhile first hahaha.
Cool. I have heard good things but I guess I’m just skeptical in general (especially of SW podcasts, of which there are far too many). Will probably take a listen soon.
Report: solid listen. That one guy knows his stuff. It’s one thing to point out themes, but it’s another thing to do a technical, musical breakdown from an actual musician. That’s not something I have much knowledge of, so it’s very cool to hear (and I love that he has a piano for demonstration). Very interested to find out what he has to say about the TFA soundtrack.
Now I’m mostly jealous about how much better his costume is than mine was:
Some things never change. I love this picture.
What about mine!!1!
I agree, though I’m not a fan of the choir (kinda over the top).
Now I’m mostly jealous about how much better his costume is than mine was:
Here’s mine (1997):
I am reading Heir to the Empire right now but am only about a quarter of the way through and and will certainly not be done before TFA. But it’s great so far and I’ll definitely have it done at some point!
You know that feeling when you lose track of a TV show that you’ve been obsessed with, and then months later just don’t feel much of a desire to go back to it? I think this kind of happened to me with HTTE. I definitely liked it, and I won’t deny that the fact that TFA came out sort of derailed my EU novel marathon, which was done mainly as prep for TFA. I definitely needed to take a break from SW this summer, too, so that didn’t help.
But still, when I tried to read some more a few weeks ago, I just couldn’t really get into it. Anyone else not in love with the Thrawn books? It seems like everyone says their the best the old EU has to offer. And yet, nothing about them has particularly grabbed me yet (and I’s day I’ve made it about half way through HTTE). I’m a little worried it might just not be what I’m looking for in a SW story. Too much military stuff, too much sci-fi (ysalmiri - ugh). I don’t know. I’ll definitely finish at least the first book, but I don’t know if I’ll move on to the others. There are other SW books I want to read and I don’t want to waste too much time on a book that I rarely feel like reading.
I like to think I have a unique perspective on this movie as far as this forum goes because this was my first Star Wars movie. A friend of mine bought me a ticket to the midnight premier last year and even though I thought it was going to be really bad I said “what the hell” and saw it anyway. In the end though, I absolutely loved it. This movie got me watching the rest of the Star Wars movies in a way the prequels, which came out when I was very young with ROTS coming out when I was 9, could not. I saw scenes from those movies in passing whenever they were on TV and they made me think Star Wars was some terrible sci-fi series that I had absolutely no interest in.
Before the movie I knew a few things. I knew who Luke, Han and Leia were and I knew that Starkiller was a recycled Death Star. I also knew Darth Vader died in Episode VI and that he was burned. “The garbage will do” line completely missed me. I had no idea why everyone was laughing but it’s pretty great in retrospect.
The film is fast paced. The characters are really likeable and the acting is good. I made a Facebook post when I got home saying something like “The Force Awakens is really good for most of the movie but the last 30 minutes are fantastic” and I still definitely believe that. The special effects are truly top notch and I really just remember being like “I need to get into Star Wars now.”
So I’m actually glad they kinda just redid Episode IV for this movie because it was the perfect way for someone like me to get interested in Star Wars. In retrospect I wish they hadn’t made another Death Star but overall it was a damn good film. I think I like the original trilogy better now but it’s definitely up there as a great film for me. Long story short, I immediately wanted to see Episode VIII and I think in the end, as long as the rest of this trilogy is up to this quality or better, this will be my favorite Star Wars trilogy because it will be “my” Star Wars. This movie is essentially what Star Wars is to me and feels more like what Star Wars means to me than the originals even though I think I like those better.
Anyway, really wordy post, but yeah those are my thoughts.
Nice post. I’ve always felt that TFA was designed very carefully to not only please young and old fans, but to welcome new fans as well. So, welcome!
Nothing, in my mind, is more perfect than her first scenes with the rest of the gang. A pitch perfect subversion of the classic princess/damsel in distress archetype, and a reason why the film and the character are so delightful.
“Aren’t you a little short for a stormtrooper?”
“This is some rescue.”
“Somebody has to save our skins.”
“Into the garbage chute flyboy.”
Well yes, that’s why I said it, because he said it, which was obvious, so why say it again…
Argh.
I don’t understand the point of this post.
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.
Oh interesting. I was worried it’d just be some dudes talking about which music was “memorable” and “hummable” or something. Might have to check it out.
As for Giacchino, he said in an interview something about his brother I think encouraged him to take the job because he’s been writing it in his head for the last 40 years. So in some ways I feel like the homages might have been the easy part. Still, an amazing feat.
It’s really worth a listen. I don’t often post links like that so I make sure they’re actually worthwhile first hahaha.
Cool. I have heard good things but I guess I’m just skeptical in general (especially of SW podcasts, of which there are far too many). Will probably take a listen soon.
IT WAS ALL THE CITIZENS OF NOFUNSVILLE THAT REPORTED ME TO THE MODERATORS
AFTER THAT THEY DECIDED TO ELECT JETRELL FO AS THEIR MAYOR
Wow, I hadn’t seen this until today. I am no-one’s Mayor and you numbered your own days, LOL.
😃
too soon
It does feel this way to me as well. Now seems the time to celebrate her past performances and look forward to her remaining ones, rather than worry about what comes after.
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Yeah they mention both of these in the podcast linked awhile back. It’s very cool stuff, and amazing to think Giacchino was able to make it in four weeks. I’d never have been able to come up with little homages and references like that in a year.
Oh interesting. I was worried it’d just be some dudes talking about which music was “memorable” and “hummable” or something. Might have to check it out.
As for Giacchino, he said in an interview something about his brother I think encouraged him to take the job because he’s been writing it in his head for the last 40 years. So in some ways I feel like the homages might have been the easy part. Still, an amazing feat.
Back to the topic of Giacchino’s score, I found this bridge at 3:30 in “Tales of a Jedi Knight/Learn About The Force” from the Star Wars '77 soundtrack, it’s exactly the Jyn Erso theme from RO, take a listen:
https://youtu.be/soNidwqk1U4?t=3m30s
Personally, I think that section sucks as a main theme, it’s too simplistic, but it does sound like it was actually a callback to the original score for ANH.
Edit: It seems someone in the YouTube comments beat me to it
That’s pretty cool. I’ve seen people point out that Jyn’s theme is based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because there are a few direct quotations of it throughout the RO score, and of course SW before it (especially during Burning Homestead). I guess I never noticed it but that bit^ is definitely based in Dies Irae, which makes sense because it’s when Luke is rejecting his fate/destiny (which is of course flipped in the aforementioned Burning Homestead scene).
Oddly enough it’s the more subtle references to old Williams pieces that I appreciate (the obvious ones are hit and miss - I think the Force theme is overused and the Rebel fanfare and the original Imperial theme are underused). But the Dies Irae quotes are cool, as well as the couple Death Star motif bits, the flute hologram message motif, the Leia’s theme cameo, and the “Alliance Assembly” influence on “Scrambling the Rebel Fleet.” Giacchino is a huge JW/SW fan so I’m sure there’s more.
Why are you reading that