DominicCobb

Yeah I think there were at least four senators who ended up reading it.

TV’s Frink said:

I missed that this happened…what the hell?

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/318466-sen-udall-reads-coretta-scott-king-letter-on-senate-floor-after-warren

Why wasn’t Udall told to shut up?

There’s probably a few reasons but my guess is the damage had already been done in terms of public opinion (as the Warren story and the King letter spread like wildfire after this happened - probably more so than if it didn’t, plus it also accidentally gave Warren and progressives a new rallying cry). I think another thing is that Udall was not the only senator who had planned to read the letter after Warren was silenced so I think they might have just figured let’s get it over with.

Either way this backfired massively for McConnell (though I guess only so much, as Sessions was still confirmed, despite being a confirmed racist pile of garbage).

Handman said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

I truly despise this style of haircut:

It’s just so uneven and ugly, and what’s even worse is that 90 percent of boys at my school have it.

This is a trend that’s picked up in just the past 4-5 years or so and it’s awful. I’m disheartened to hear 90% of your local population has succumbed to it. I don’t even know where it came from.

For reference, this is what people’s hair looked like at my school:

I’m not sure that’s any better, honestly.

I know we have many threads here devoted to different aspects of the EU and the new canon specifically (such as this: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/New-Star-Wars-comics/id/16890), but there’s no thread devoted to just the new canon content in general. So I figured it might be nice to have a devoted place to talk about it.

ONE RULE: no complaining about the new films. This is not the place for that.

As I mentioned an earlier post, these are the pieces of the new canon that I’ve consumed thus far (not really much yet, though I am interested in more and taking suggestions):

Film/TV

• All the films, of course (Episodes I-VII, Rogue One), and The Clone Wars, which was grandfathered in.
• All of Rebels, which is mostly pretty awesome.

Comics

• All of the Vader comics and Vader Down, which were a very fun read on the whole.

I have the first vol. of Poe Dameron, all of Kanan, the C-3PO one shot, and Shattered Empire within reach and will read when the time is right. I will also 100% read Bloodline once I get the chance (and am quite stoked to).

Other than that? Not sure. How’s the main Star Wars Marvel series? Princess Leia? Lando? Chewbacca? Han Solo? These are the lines that are interesting me right now. I’ll probably check out Doctor Aphra at some point. I don’t have any real desire to seek out Obi-Wan & Anakin, though I wouldn’t mind reading it if someone put it in front of me.

Books

• The beginning of the Tarkin audio book, which has been alright.
• The Heir to the Jedi audio book, which was incredibly forgettable.
• The Catalyst audio book, which was pretty damn good.

I’m fairly interested in the Aftermath series though am holding off until it’s done so I can binge read it. I know they have had kind of a mixed reception, but mixed means some liked it, and with the fact that they’re mostly the only substantial post-ROTJ content out there now, I really don’t mind taking a dive and finding out for myself (anyway if I really hate it, I can stop before I move on to the others).

Is Lords of the Sith any good? I feel like that’s still a fairly untapped time period. Lost Stars I’ve heard is solid so I might check it out at some point even though nothing about it really excites me. Is Ahsoka any good? Haven’t really heard much about it. I actually read somewhere recently that Twilight Company is really solid, which I found interesting because (as a VG tie-in) I thought it’d be pretty throwaway. Can’t be bothered with Dark Disciple. Is A New Dawn worth a look? Will check out the new novelizations eventually. Any other books I’m missing?

What stuff have you guys read?

doubleofive said:

DominicCobb said:

By the way, these are the pieces of the new canon that I’ve consumed thus far:

• (Episodes I-VII, Rogue One, TCW)
• all of Rebels
• all of the Vader comic and Vader Down
• the Heir to the Jedi audio book
• the Catalyst audio book
• the beginning of the Tarkin audio book

so not really much so far though I am interested in more (and am taking suggestions). I have the first vol. of Poe Dameron, all of Kanan, the 3PO one shot, and Shattered Empire within reach and will read when the time is right. I will also 100% read Bloodline once I get the chance (and am quite stoked to). I’m fairly interested in the Aftermath series though am holding off until it’s done so I can binge read it.

Other than that? Not sure. How’s the main SW Marvel series? Princess Leia? Lando? Chewbacca? Han Solo?
Is Lords of the Sith any good? Lost Stars I’ve heard is solid. Any other books worth reading?

I guess come here and ask?

Hmm, yeah it does seem we’re veering off topic, and that thread is for what’s good about all the EU, not the new EU specifically and not just general thoughts. Maybe a new thread is in order?

JEDIT: done http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Official-Canon-Content-Thread/id/53868

Yeah I know the Aftermath books have had kind of a mixed reception. But mixed means some liked it, and with the fact that they’re mostly the only post-ROTJ content out there now, I really don’t mind taking a dive and finding out for myself (anyway if I really hate it, I can stop before I move on to the others).

Is Ahsoka any good? Haven’t really heard much about it.

I actually read somewhere recently that Twilight Company is really solid, which I found interesting because (as a VG tie-in) I thought it’d be pretty throwaway.

JEDIT: discussion should probably continue here: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Official-Canon-Content-Thread/id/53868

DuracellEnergizer said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Wazzles said:

I’m fine with prequel references as long as they don’t mention midi chlorians, gungans, clone Boba, any specific characters originating from the PT, Yoda’s saber, or other things that I can’t be bothered to remember right now.

FTFM

What, no love for Ric or Panakacakes?

I was going to post just about the exact same thing.

Handman said:

This will only serve as a constant reminder of the world we now find ourselves in.

Paris to put up glass wall to protect Eiffel Tower
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38923411

I can’t help but feel saddened this is necessary. It robs the world of romance as bureaucracy and terror strive to rule the day.

Unless I’m reading this wrong there’s already a wall around it (a metal one) and this one will actually look a lot better?

By the way, these are the pieces of the new canon that I’ve consumed thus far:

• (Episodes I-VII, Rogue One, TCW)
• all of Rebels
• all of the Vader comic and Vader Down
• the Heir to the Jedi audio book
• the Catalyst audio book
• the beginning of the Tarkin audio book

so not really much so far though I am interested in more (and am taking suggestions). I have the first vol. of Poe Dameron, all of Kanan, the 3PO one shot, and Shattered Empire within reach and will read when the time is right. I will also 100% read Bloodline once I get the chance (and am quite stoked to). I’m fairly interested in the Aftermath series though am holding off until it’s done so I can binge read it.

Other than that? Not sure. How’s the main SW Marvel series? Princess Leia? Lando? Chewbacca? Han Solo?
Is Lords of the Sith any good? Lost Stars I’ve heard is solid. Any other books worth reading?

joefavs said:

I’m picking up a pervasive mindset here that the best way to go is to outright reject anything you don’t like, and I dig that that works for many of you, but I really don’t feel the need to do that with the current canon. I understand where you’re all coming from, because the NJO books absolutely didn’t jibe with what Star Wars is for me and I never felt comfortable “counting” them, but honestly nothing that’s official right now has been objectionable enough for me to cut it out. I know most of you aren’t keeping up with new books and/or comics (except maybe Haseo) and so you have little incentive to invest in the official version of canon, but one of the things I enjoy about Star Wars is that there’s always more of it, and part of that bargain is allowing the duds to exist on the timeline. I find it much easier to just acknowledge that AOTC happened even though it sucked than it is to perform the mental gymnastics required to make it all hang together when some comic references the events of that film. Doesn’t mean I’m going to start watching it all the time, but I’m fine with it occupying a point in the chronology. Part of what draws me to these sorts of sprawling sci-fi/fantasy epics is the convoluted history of it all; I get a certain amount of joy just from the way things fit together that’s separate from my opinion of the individual things. I guess what I’m trying to say is that rolling with the official canon doesn’t necessarily have to equal jumping through hoops to make yourself love everything Lucasfilm puts its stamp on.

I totally feel this.

As I said

I don’t really have a personal canon of what I think really “happened” but I do have certain pieces of SW that I like and certain pieces that I don’t. There is a distinction between the two concepts.

So there are certain SW things that I like and some that I don’t, but I don’t have any desire to make a “personal canon” out of them. Is there any chance something like Labyrinth of Evil and the original Marvel run really happened in the same continuity? Unlikely, but I don’t really care.

When it comes to canon I have no issue accepting the “official” one. Just because the prequels aren’t great movies doesn’t mean I have to strip them from the franchise entirely and scoff off any new material that references them. When Darth Vader formed an army of battle droids I thought, who cares? that’s pretty cool. Honestly, if people had never seen the offending films the concept of Vader rebooting an old army of droids would have jazzed nearly everyone.

I can accept the idea that all the new EU works are beholden to the facts and events of each other and I think that makes them interesting as it adds another layer to the proceedings. But trying to create a personal canon just doesn’t work for me, as then it really just feels like I’m trying to force another layer on where there wasn’t one before. This is obviously egregious when you’re reading something like those early Marvel books, but it still applies to something like Labyrinth of Evil. I mean, sure, I don’t think there’s much in there that’s contradicted by anything new, but the fact of the matter is it wasn’t written as beholden to this new continuity.

I’m definitely not explaining this well, but to be clear I don’t mean to say I care more about “official” canon stories. As I said, there are things I like and things I don’t and that has nothing to do with canon. The thing is that canon is just whatever the writers of a story were beholden to. And the truth is that the original six films were beholden to nothing but themselves and each other (mostly), and TCW was beholden to only the films, so they lay a solid framework for the new EU. The old EU was beholden to many different things, depending on the work. There was the original Marvel run, that was beholden to the film(s), but then there were plenty of other pieces of media that felt no need to be beholden to the details of that Marvel run at all. The key difference with the new EU being that every piece of media, from that framework on, is beholden to each other, which really is quite an interesting (and fun) thing.

Jeebus said:

Jeff Sessions confirmed as Attorney General. Disgusting.

The GOP continues to play politics to the detriment of our nation. I can only hope that people are paying attention now and will vote these spineless motherfuckers out of office ASAP.

Those lefties with their nasty ass comments!! Whatever happened to being politically correct? Wait… I mean what?

We’re talking about Donald F Trump here, and you’re complaining that his critics are nasty? I can’t tell if you’re joking or just being a dumb fuck.

suspiciouscoffee said:

It’s alright Haseo, I assumed it was either a joke or a mistake.

Yeah that’s a nice way to sum it up.

“Only a master of evil, Darth.” Seems a perfectly fitting place to use his title, personal moment or not.

Anyway, if Lucas was going to change it to make it more “personal,” why would he change it to Anakin?

Jeebus said:

DominicCobb said:

bromeo said:

Random shower thought:

Why didn’t GL change Obi-Wan’s line…

“You can’t win, Darth…” to “You can’t win, Vader…” ?

Why would he?

When Lucas wrote that line, Darth was his name. It made sense to call him Darth. But somewhere along the line, Darth became a title. Vader was his identifier, Darth was just a prefix.

So? No one’s ever referred to someone by just a title before? You’re telling me we don’t hear people refer to others in SW as just “general” or “captain” or “count” or “master” or “princess”?

I’m going to pretend this is all one big joke and then get on with my day.

He’s just generalizing.

You mean when all the heroes are still inside?

SWapprentice said:

6. The attack on the thermal oscillator by the x-wings should fail.
7. the explosives set off by chewbacca should blow the Oscillator.

This is practically what happens in the film already.

Sounds reasonable.

Yeah but what I mean is that SW is fantasy so I truly do not care if that’s the case in the real world.

I never really thought about the logic of it until it was pointed out so I can’t say I found it too blatant. In my mind, the Hosnian system is just really close to Takadonna and that’s good enough for me.