and their box art is the best anyway.
Really? The only one that’s any good is the standard one. Similar to poster anyway. Disappointingly they scrubbed fader’s shadow from it for some reason. He’s on the DVD though.
Not a fan of the shop job on either, though the DVD is much worse. Target is at least simple (with the interesting swappable gimmick too).
Side note: please let’s NOT turn this into an argument about the word retard.
I’m more on your side than mfm’s but you really shouldn’t have called him a retard.
I KNOW HOW COMMAS WORK FRINK, DO YOU?
Avoidance does not necessarily equal self censorship. It’s not just the words or topics themselves, it’s how you use them or talk about them.
Treating people with respect is not the explicit definition, but it is the underlining goal.
In the proper context, people will understand and not be offended by words and phrases that will most certainly cause offense if used in disparaging contexts.
For example, there are many “okay” ways to use the word “retard.” PC doesn’t advocate removing it from the dictionary. But if you use it to describe a stupid person, yeah sure that’s offensive. If you think that’s terrible self-censorship, then well I don’t know what to say - we just strongly disagree.
(Side note: please let’s NOT turn this into an argument about the word retard. Don’t need to go there again.)
whatever ™
The goal of PC is to treat others with respect. If you want to dump the loonies in with everyone else to deligitimze and demonize the whole concept, fine.
Really tired of retailer-specific content.
Me too, but in fairness this choice is easy because Target is the only one with the exclusive content, and their box art is the best anyway.
Don’t know why they couldn’t have just used the poster.
Does it really matter if this is considered PC or not?
Well, I think so.
Just because someone does something to be “PC” doesn’t mean they are actually being “PC.” As with seemingly everything, people don’t understand that you can’t take the actions of a select few and think that they represent everyone else.
Just because some people misuse the PC concept doesn’t mean the PC concept is bad.
Who decides what is and isn’t PC? In my opinion, if someone is doing something to be “PC” then they are absolutely being “PC”, what you or anyone else deem to be actually “PC” don’t factor in to the equation at all.
I’d say whether it fits the definition or not. In this case, it does not. In no way are the mere presence of cops “offensive.” Uncomfortable, maybe. But there’s nothing offensive about what they’re doing.
Some people don’t understand what the word offensive means. But words do have meanings. We can’t just throw our hands up in the air and allow misinterpretations to become the de facto definitions. This applies to this and many other matters.
I’d have been very surprised if they included any of the scenes from the earlier cut of the film. That usually doesn’t happen.
I was delighted to learn of Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s involvement. I finally saw Fleabag a couple weeks ago and it really floored me. I have no idea how she’ll fit into the Star Wars universe, but I’m excited to find out.
I’ve only seen her in a couple things but she’s got talent.
I heard a rumor about what kind of role she’d be playing, and I think, if true, it’d be pretty cool.
If Lucasfilm had been more collaborative at the time, I’d have been down with seeing the Big Three back in their primes, but there’s a reason they call those years the Dark Ages.
It doesn’t matter. We are in the new Dark Ages. I used to think Lucas was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, but now I know it’s Disney. Soon OOT fans won’t even be allowed to own Star Wars merchandise. Disney will send out people to break into our houses and replace our Darth Vader toys with Kylo Ren toys, and the same with Luke and Rey, and all the other Rehash Wars characters. The OT will be a distant memory. Disney will destroy every copy of those films that exist. Enjoy them while they last.
B+ frevious parody. You needed a few Holocaust references to get it up to an A.
HOW DARE YOU, I NEVER MAKE LIGHT OF THE HOLOCAUST, I JUST POINT OUT ITS PARALLELS IN OUR DAY AND AGE.
If it were literally unplayable then it wouldn’t be playable. Another reason why no one takes you seriously is because you use the word literally when it doesn’t apply.
I’d say it’s more about his extreme hyperbole. I know a ton of people who use “literally” incorrectly.
You know 2,000 pounds of people who use “literally” incorrectly?
Interesting. This wouldn’t be surprising if Johnson hadn’t already said he wouldn’t shoot anything in the format. Wonder what changed.
Funny, I never heard about him saying that. Was it before principle photography started in earnest? It may very well have been a last minute decision.
Yeah I believe so. Also, thinking about it, the quote might have been that wouldn’t be shooting 65mm, so perhaps this was just in regards to the fact the film would be mostly 35mm (and perhaps not precluding the possibility of an IMAX scene). It was awhile ago, and I don’t remember where that I read this, so maybe take it with a grain of salt.
If Lucasfilm had been more collaborative at the time, I’d have been down with seeing the Big Three back in their primes, but there’s a reason they call those years the Dark Ages.
It doesn’t matter. We are in the new Dark Ages. I used to think Lucas was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, but now I know it’s Disney. Soon OOT fans won’t even be allowed to own Star Wars merchandise. Disney will send out people to break into our houses and replace our Darth Vader toys with Kylo Ren toys, and the same with Luke and Rey, and all the other Rehash Wars characters. The OT will be a distant memory. Disney will destroy every copy of those films that exist. Enjoy them while they last.
Interesting. This wouldn’t be surprising if Johnson hadn’t already said he wouldn’t shoot anything in the format. Wonder what changed.
Does it really matter if this is considered PC or not?
Well, I think so.
Just because someone does something to be “PC” doesn’t mean they are actually being “PC.” As with seemingly everything, people don’t understand that you can’t take the actions of a select few and think that they represent everyone else.
Just because some people misuse the PC concept doesn’t mean the PC concept is bad.
from wikipedia:
The term political correctness (adjectivally: politically correct; commonly abbreviated to PC[1] or P.C.) in modern usage, is used to describe language, policies, or measures that are intended to avoid offense or disadvantage to members of particular groups in society. In mainstream political discourse and media, the term is generally used as a pejorative, implying that these policies are excessive.
Well I guess you’re saying this was done to avoid offense, and to that I say this is a bastardization of that concept. The mere presence of cops doesn’t cause offense. It might make kids uncomfortable, but that’s something different, and it’s not something that can be always avoided.
If anything, I think the idea that these cops would be giving all the kids high fives is actually politically correct in that they’re promoting inclusion and friendliness between cops and disadvantaged kids.
As to the pejorative, I think it’s unfortunate the term has taken on that implication, as the goal of political correctness is a laudable one and in most cases is done with tact. Unfortunately, there are always some dipshits who don’t really get it and take things too far, and the opposition blows their contributions out of proportion so as to delegitimize the whole ideology.
I agree that there shouldn’t be anything politically incorrect about what the police were doing, but them deciding not to do this anymore as a response to people supposedly being uncomfortable was an attempt to be politically correct.
Well if so, then “attempt” is the key word. There isn’t anything politically incorrect about cops giving kids high fives, and there isn’t anything politically correct about stopping them from doing so.
Well I don’t know where that definition comes from but in my mind that proves my point that this is not political correctness. If the cops are giving high fives to ALL the students, then I don’t see how it is in any way politically incorrect.
Well why did the they have stop doing it then?
Because they were being silly. As I said
Cops are a part of this country and many schools have officers stationed inside them during the day. If anything, this should help the kids with that simple fact. Political correctness ain’t got nothing to with any of it.
I understand that cops can make kids uncomfortable (this is true even for white kids), but you can’t just pretend they don’t exist. That’s not what political correctness is about.
Despite what some people think, political correctness is NOT over sensitivity for the sake of over sensitivity.
Sometimes I think it is.
That’s a bastardization of what it’s supposed to be. Some people treat it that way, but that’s not what the idea is, and it just gives it a bad name.
My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.
Well it is obviously not working well enough for you to understand the difference between concious separation of some concepts in two films and subconscious association to memories. That is despite my explicit explanation in the previous post.
Well it’s not like the memories don’t ever come up, it’s just that I can dismiss them fairly easily.
Well I don’t know where that definition comes from but in my mind that proves my point that this is not political correctness. If the cops are giving high fives to ALL the students, then I don’t see how it is in any way politically incorrect.
Despite what some people think, political correctness is NOT over sensitivity for the sake of over sensitivity. Cops are a part of this country and many schools have officers stationed inside them during the day. If anything, this should help the kids with that simple fact. Political correctness ain’t got nothing to with any of it.
Well that’s a distortion of its goals. That’s not what’s it’s striving for. That is what some dumb shits advocate, but as I said, it’s more nuanced than that.
It’s not like you can’t talk about testy topics, it’s more about treating testy topics with thoughtfulness and sensitivity.
Well in my mind that’s what political correctness is all about.
This is a better thread to talk about political correctness in, but here’s a great example of why I hate it:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/northampton-police-department-high-five-fridays-program-canceled/
You can’t just call everyone doing things you don’t like “political correctness.” Nothing about this has anything to do with political correctness, just stupid parents being annoying as often happens.
Well I guess the idea of “political correctness” is a rather nebulous topic. I think when most advocate for it, it’s in an effort to promote inclusion (and everything that comes with that - including doing away with disparaging stereotypes).
There are certainly a select few who take it to the extremes, and are sensitive about everything for the sake of it, but that’s not really what’s at the heart of it and it’s an aspect of the issue that the outrage against has blown out of proportion. Most people advocating for political correctness aren’t advocating censorship, more like advocating thoughtful consideration about how we conduct ourselves in regards to underrepresented peoples. It’s more nuanced than people make it out to be.
While the term is certainly new, I think the mindset behind it is not. I don’t care to get into semantics here or the negative connotations people have placed on the term. What’s important is the general idea at stake.
Saying Chekov wasn’t to promote inclusion is neglecting the point. The idea of promoting inclusion and showing peace on Earth aren’t mutually exclusive, in fact I think they are very much part and parcel. Everyone is welcome in Starfleet. Everyone gets along. That’s kind of the whole idea.
Whether or not the portrayal is stereotypical is just the next step in the same line of thinking. The goal is to show we’re all the same and in this all together. First step is showing the Russians aren’t the enemy. Next step would then be to not portray them as a simple caricature, but as a real person, just like everyone else.
If you can’t see how the ideas aren’t related, I really don’t know what to say.
My brain is working well enough that I can separate two movies from each other rather easily. I could think about how the PT represented the Clone Wars when they’re mentioned - or I could choose to imagine they’re something completely different.
I don’t consider the PT “traumatic” because my mind isn’t that fragile.
People saying they see Hayden when they watch the OT is surprising (well, ROTJSE aside). I find it impossible to reconcile his portrayal with the Vader character. Which is actually a failure on Lucas’s part, as his goal was to make you think of Anakin when watching the OT. But the portrayals are so disparate so as to practically be two completely different characters with very little in common. I find it as hard to see Hayden when I look at Vader as the other way around, even though it’s not supposed to be that way.
So no, thankfully Hayden does not ruin the OT for me. I don’t even know how that’d be possible.
When I’m eating real crab, I’m not thinking of imitation crab meat because I ate it two months prior.
Right. When I’m eating a great burger, thoughts of yesterdays lunch from McDonnalds won’t spoil the meal.
Hell, if anything, it’ll make me enjoy the quality burger even more.