DominicCobb

dahmage said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Handman said:

I don’t understand why we have two Last Jedi discussion threads?

One was created for discussion before the movie was released; the other was created after the movie was released. Not really needed to delete this one, since there’s plenty of good discussion here.

Also, technically one is for discussion and the other is for review.
But I think the key difference at this point is that the review thread is toxic, and the discussion thread is not (yet.)

also technically we have lots of duplicate threads.

Most threads here have duplicate threads.

Except for this one: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Lapti-Nek-Appreciation-Thread/id/13598/page/1

for now

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

Even if Finn makes it, in a melted skimmer I can’t see how that’d do much.

And I meant there are other ways to blow open that big ass door, I’m sure.

It looked like just peripheries like the guns. Fuselage was intact just prior to Rose’s interception.
They are practically at the mouth of the cannon. I have trouble buying he wasn’t going to make it or he wasn’t going to do much damage.

I guess this really does come down to individual perception. I just didn’t see it the same way you did.

Well obviously the reaction says they could have made this clearer, as many people have misinterpreted the scene. I took it, when Poe called it off as a “suicide mission,” that it wasn’t worth it, and that’s all I needed to know and the rest could easily be assumed without being stated outright.

Oh, I thought he thought I called his a spoiler.

joefavs said:

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

Closest IMAX laser system is the better part of two hours away from me. I’ve been thinking about making the pilgrimage for the last couple weeks but I haven’t found the time yet. I really hope I make it out there while it’s still playing.

There’s one in Reading, don’t know how far your are from there. I’ve never been but I’ve heard it’s a good one, though you have to walk through a Jordan’s Furniture to get to it.

That’s the one I’m talking about. I’m out in Fitchburg, so it’s a ways to go for a movie. Boston’s got one coming in, but I doubt it will be open while TLJ is still playing. Maybe for Solo.

Ideally one day every IMAX screen will be laser (hell, every standard screen too).

Mocata said:

Wait how was mine a spoiler lol

It wasn’t. Mine was.

That does fit well, actually, but I’m sticking with John Williams throughout. And I have a piece in mind, the trick in making it fit is more finding a good way to segue in and out of it

Mocata said:

Haha the gif of the movie
(TLJ spoiler)

I think you mean this:

(spoiler)

joefavs said:

Closest IMAX laser system is the better part of two hours away from me. I’ve been thinking about making the pilgrimage for the last couple weeks but I haven’t found the time yet. I really hope I make it out there while it’s still playing.

There’s one in Reading, don’t know how far your are from there. I’ve never been but I’ve heard it’s a good one, though you have to walk through a Jordan’s Furniture to get to it.

Even if Finn makes it, in a melted skimmer I can’t see how that’d do much.

And I meant there are other ways to blow open that big ass door, I’m sure.

MalàStrana said:

Dom, since you aim at replacing the soundtrack on many scenes, are you going to try something with the AOTC ending in order to remove the Vader’s theme that’s quite out of place here ? I’m thinking about trying myself with Shadow of the Empire soundtrack. Don’t know if feasible though.

Yeah I want to change that, but it might be hard to get something else to fit.

When Finn gets into kamikaze mode, we see the ram start to tear his skimmer apart. It’s clear he won’t even make it, let alone blow the whole thing up.

Even if he did, there’s no doubt that the FO would find another way in. The goal was just to buy some time to make contact with their allies. They were fucked either way before Luke arrived.

But then… why have a Facebook?

Jeebus said:

After having been on Facebook for years, I’m now being greeted with this message;

It won’t let me see anything but that, no posts are appearing in my news feed. If I’m lucky; one out of every ten times I refresh the page, it will show me one or two posts, then hit me with this message;

Apparently having friends added is now a requirement to using the site. Bullshit.

Wait… do you not have any friends?

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

Valheru_84 said:

Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.

This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.

Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.

This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.

Huh, if that’s true, color me surprised, considering how many important people were here for this diversity question.

If I remember correctly, Tatiana Maslany and Gugu Mbatha-Raw were a couple of the actresses in the running for the role.

TV’s Frink said:

Valheru_84 said:

Also I have no problem with the movie having a Chinese character if that character is required for the story and the role is specifically written as having a Chinese or Star Wars equivalent background or more importantly, the best actor for the role just happens to be Chinese. But Rose’s character very much feels like she’s only there partly to put an extra tick in the box of “actor diversity” and that’s a slight to the actress herself who does a good job even if I find the character pointless and lacking in many aspects. It also makes me wonder alongside a number of other recent examples (that are not connected with SW) whether there is something to the talk about an increase in China’s influence on Hollywood due to the amount of money they are investing into it (and therefore a need to appease that demographic)…though in that case, one would have expected Matt Damon’s character in ‘The Great Wall’ to be cast with a Chinese actor, though I’m also sure the choice of Matt Damon was more in line with audience pull than authentic characters for a movie set in China.

This would all be a great point if she wasn’t born in America to Vietnamese parents.

Actually it wouldn’t be a great point, in fact it’s ridiculous, but you somehow managed to make it worse.

This aside, they were not casting specifically for an Asian actress.

TV’s Frink said:

Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.

Here’s a helpful post from the other forum.

You’re the only one. Rose is the worst Star Wars character ever. Yes…even worse than Jar Jar. At least he has good theories about him being a Sith Lord. Rose served zero purpose the entire movienother than trying to save her crush’s life while sacrificing the entire universe to the FO.

Where’s that post from? I remember reading it somewhere…

I can’t find it now because there’s too many pages of outrage in too short a time, but it’s in one of these two threads.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153592/content-update-1-10-2018-mega/p1
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/153597/hold-on-to-what-you-love/p1

The best part is that it might not even be Rose that’s added to the game. It might be Holdo. I would love days of whining about something that ends up not even happening.

I bet you if it’s Holdo she will get just as much hate.

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

That’s not what I meant, I meant the Randy Quaid in Independence Day scenario is stupid.

Does that mean Holdo’s sacrifice was also stupid? If we are consistent

The scenarios are completely different.

Only different in your mind

Sounds reasonable.

By the way, had my 4th viewing this morning. IMAX 2D. Never seen laser projection before, and boy did it deliver (see it this way if you can).

Also was in the Chinese Theater (one of the biggest IMAX screens in the world), would recommend.

ExNihilo said:

DominicCobb said:

That’s not what I meant, I meant the Randy Quaid in Independence Day scenario is stupid.

Does that mean Holdo’s sacrifice was also stupid? If we are consistent

The scenarios are completely different.

That’s not what I meant, I meant the Randy Quaid in Independence Day scenario is stupid.

dahmage said:

Ok, so then what is the problem with Rose? I am confused what remaining complaints there might be.

People are mad that she stopped Finn from having a super bad ass self sacrifice hero moment like Randy Quaid in Independence Day.

The point, of course, being that kind of thing is stupid.

Also, about Rose being working class, she isn’t just working class. She’s the person behind the scenes who does the dirty work while the heroes do the hero stuff. And her class status is important because she is the only character who (at least explicitly) was oppressed by the First Order (well Finn was too of course but in a totally different way).

Without Rose, Rey never finds her way back. Without Rose, Poe never attempts the alternate plan. Without Rose, the First Order doesn’t follow the Resistance to Crait.

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.

Like I said, I thought her character was fine. But I don’t understand what you mean.

Mielr was saying that Lando was a consequential character to the narrative. I was saying, in that way, so is Rose.

Handman said:

DominicCobb said:

Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.

That’s not necessarily a good thing…

Well, maybe if you don’t like the movie. But on the question of whether her character is of consequence, then the answer is clearly yes.

Mielr said:

dahmage said:

Rose is a better character than Lando was. Barely. But still.

Seriously? Lando was a pretty pivotal character and really set all the events in motion for the 2nd half of the movie. He partnered with Vader to trap Luke and in the process got Han nearly killed and shipped off to Jabba (remember?)

No Lando: no cloud city, no luke/vader duel (no “I am your father”), no carbonite, no Jabba, no reason for rotj basically.

What exactly did Rose do that was so important (besides setting free horse-llama things and preventing Finn from committing an act of selflessness)?

Most of the movie doesn’t exist without Rose.