They’re all very different movies, so it sorta comes down to personal preference. The first is a monster movie, the others aren’t, for example.
Were any of the movies in the MCU shot in 35mm?
The first four.
Um…R2 is perfectly fine in the last scene of ANH, while Finn is decidedly not in the last scene of TFA.
Yeah that’s a big stretch.
Okay so now you actually are saying that. Jesus
When a gun is always involved in the problem, it’s hard to deny that it’s part of the problem. So saying “we should try to solve everything except the gun part” just seems silly. We should try everything we can. We shouldn’t shy away from controlling guns just because some people like them a lot.
You explicitly stated that borrowing from the OT makes the ST seem pointless and in the same breath you said that the PT borrowed less so…
Did you just imply that the ST is more pointless than the prequels???
This kind of thing happens every now and again. Usually it makes more sense though.
Chyron = 39 (going on 12 😉)
Yes.
I’m sure you’re saying I’m immature, but I don’t care.
Wait, Marks gets a smiley emoji and I get this?
One person saying it is cute. Two people saying it is suspicious.
Also, gender inequality and all that. Maybe.But again, I don’t really care. I’m terrible at going out of my way to live up to perceived expectations—especially my own, so I’m just going to be me. If I’m immature for it, then so be it.
Um… k
Everyone on this board doesn’t act their age anyway, so the whole point is moot.
Speak for yourself.
I know we don’t always gel here, but that was meant to be a light-hearted jest.
And you think my response wasn’t?
As a country, we are dumb as fuck.
Very true in this case, and in general.
I think it has the Star Wars '77 look.
it’s pretty damn ugly.
The two aren’t at all mutuality exclusive to me.
Yep
I just want as much deleted material of Rey and Luke as possible. I’m unsure about the deleted third lesson though. Apart of me actually understands why they cut it.
It depends how it plays. On paper I really like it.
Let’s just hope they don’t have timecodes.
Oh god, so much this. And that they’re at least somewhat finished effects wise.
Definitely a more substantial showing than what we got for TFA, though it seems TFA had a tighter script than TLJ did, so that actually makes sense.
Depends what you mean by tighter. I’d say no, in that the script was constantly being rewritten, so a lot of the deleted scenes that didn’t make it on to the disc are things that were part of defunct plotlines.
As for timecode, the clips that they showed on the Star Wars Show didn’t have them so… we’ll see I guess.
List of deleted scenes:
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/02/exclusive-here-are-all-the-deleted-scene-titles-from-the-star-wars-the-last-jedi-home-release.html
some weird titles, let me try to guess (probably inaccurately) what these scenes are
Alternate Opening
The movie starts with Finn waking up. We then see him take part in the battle in one of the bombers.
Paige’s Gun Jams
Seems self-explanatory.
Luke Has a Moment
Extended version of Luke putting away his nice robes.
Poe: Not Much of a Sewer
Poe sews Finn’s chopped up jacket (poorly).
It’s Kind of Weird That You Recorded That
Poe shows Finn a recording of Rey saying goodbye while he was unconscious.
The Caretaker Sizes Up Rey
One of the fish nuns gives Rey a lecture for ruining the island.
Caretaker Village Sequence
Luke says the nuns are being attacked, Rey goes to save them, but it’s a party.
Extended Fathier Chase
The horsies crash through a bath house and run on some rooftops.
Mega Destroyer Incursion – Extended Version
Finn and co. encounter stormtroopers, one of whom recognizes him and thinks he’s been promoted.
Rose Bites the Hand That Taunts Her
Rose gets mad at Finn because of his thing for Rey.
Phasma Squealed Like a Whoop Hog
Finn tells me stormtroopers that Phasma lowered the shields, and she kills them.
Rose & Finn Go To Where They Belong
Extended version of Rose and Finn escaping the Supremacy.
Rey & Chewie in the Falcon
Rey returns to the Falcon and they assume battle positions.
The Costumes and Creatures of Canto Bight
Not a deleted scene per se - just a collection of Canto Bight b-roll.
I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.
What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777
Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840
Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392
Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470
Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.
You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.
- Going into a school where no one is armed.
- Going into a police station full of armed cops.
Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:
But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.
Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.
Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.
First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.
So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.
Putting aside your personal attack, I never said cops shouldn’t have the ability to defend themselves.
You think they shouldn’t carry guns, the kinda leaves them defenseless against bad guys. I could probably look up countless stories where if the cop didn’t have a gun, he’d be dead. There was story a couple years ago in Philly. Some nut just walks up to a cop car and tries to shoot the cop inside. The cop nearly died, and he would have if hadn’t had his gun to defend himself.
To equal cops defending themselves against bad guys to the death penalty is stupidity. One is self defense and defense of the innocent civilians(including children), the other is a form of punishment.
Defending yourself should not equal killing someone.
When a cop is charged by a criminal with a knife, I suppose it’s safest for the cop to do some Captain Kirk chops. Definitely won’t be risking his life or anything.
We can’t keep accepting that cops having lethal firearms is the best way to do things just because that’s the way it’s always been done. We live in the 21st Century.
I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.
What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777
Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840
Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392
Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470
Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.
You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.
- Going into a school where no one is armed.
- Going into a police station full of armed cops.
Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:
But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.
Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.
Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.
First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.
So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.
Putting aside your personal attack, I never said cops shouldn’t have the ability to defend themselves.
You think they shouldn’t carry guns, the kinda leaves them defenseless against bad guys. I could probably look up countless stories where if the cop didn’t have a gun, he’d be dead. There was story a couple years ago in Philly. Some nut just walks up to a cop car and tries to shoot the cop inside. The cop nearly died, and he would have if hadn’t had his gun to defend himself.
To equal cops defending themselves against bad guys to the death penalty is stupidity. One is self defense and defense of the innocent civilians(including children), the other is a form of punishment.
Defending yourself should not equal killing someone.
Sometimes it is either the cop or the bad guy, take your pick.
In some extreme cases perhaps the situation will never be better than this. But the number of times it truly comes down to that needs to be reduced to near zero. There needs to be alternatives to lethal protection.
I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.
What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777
Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840
Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392
Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470
Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.
You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.
- Going into a school where no one is armed.
- Going into a police station full of armed cops.
Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:
But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.
Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.
Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.
First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.
So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.
Putting aside your personal attack, I never said cops shouldn’t have the ability to defend themselves.
You think they shouldn’t carry guns, the kinda leaves them defenseless against bad guys. I could probably look up countless stories where if the cop didn’t have a gun, he’d be dead. There was story a couple years ago in Philly. Some nut just walks up to a cop car and tries to shoot the cop inside. The cop nearly died, and he would have if hadn’t had his gun to defend himself.
To equal cops defending themselves against bad guys to the death penalty is stupidity. One is self defense and defense of the innocent civilians(including children), the other is a form of punishment.
Defending yourself should not equal killing someone.
Target exclusive all the way. It’s actually really convenient - best artwork, packaging, and bonus extras.
It’s actually surprising how perfect this release is. TFA target release was cool but had awful artwork.
Yup. I almost got it too until I was at the store and realized it was packaged in some flimsy cardboard.
I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.
If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.
Of course we all have such flaws. But there is no doubt that Frink’s character is unique to this forum, usually in a pleasant sense, periodically to an aggravating sense.
However, I am not trying to goad or escalate anything. I was trying to follow mrebo’s advice from that thread:
To be honest, I genuinely feel you’re not as enjoyable or nice as you used to be. Or maybe I’m just nicer than I used to be, leading me to sit on my high horse. 😛
I think you and Warb are just suffering faulty memory, but ok.
Im getting flashbacks of the Luke Skywalker debate. I think Frink is as delightful as ever 🐣
I think we should give the dead the respect they deserve in this thread and not get bogged down in petty internecine fights (definition provided for Dom’s benefit).
I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand. So far, I don’t believe we’re even close to that point.
What’s more, you swooped in on my comment in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread because a lack of careful phrasing made it look like a portion of my comment was a broad generalization, even though the latter part of the comment should have clarified. You quickly corrected me and stated that I shouldn’t generalize (to which I agreed) and presumably accepted my point that liberals and atheists should be respectful of religious/conservative individuals who have died. Literally, you castigated me for not using the word ‘many’ in one of two appropriate places. Meanwhile, Frink’s disrespectful comments, both before and after that, received no moderation, and they were clearly far more offensive.
Following all this, I come to this thread to carry on what I hope will be a productive conversation and where Frink might actually acknowledge that he has been ruder lately, and whom do you call out? Me. Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely. Never mind the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl, refusing for pages to acknowledge that he should back down. Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings. Never mind his lack of remorse on most of these occasions. No, call out darth_ender, who 95% of the time tries to be the peace maker. I really appreciate that.
Regardless of whether or not I agree with you (which I actually do, to an extent), I don’t think making yourself out to be the savior of behavioral decency on the forum is really helpful to this discussion.
I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.
Yeah and I wasn’t saying you shouldn’t say that. But when you say something like you’re a peace maker 95% of the time (or trying to be), it’s distracting. I almost just posted “95% of the time? Really?” but I’m trying to be a little more constructive.
Well, I kind of appreciate your effort, but that’s like Warbler saying, “I would normally sigh here but I won’t.”
Not if the rest of my post is explaining my issue your post rather than just scoffing at it.
Respectfully, far too often you try to make yourself out to be the only adult here. I know your intentions are in the right place, but it’s honestly kind of annoying.
Perhaps it was the wrong choice of words. What I was doing was acknowledging that I have my lapses and descend into fighting, but 95% of the time, I feel I maintain maturity and keep the peace. I don’t mean that I act as a policeman for others (because usually I just butt out), but I mean I try not to contribute to a problem.
I mean, honestly, I find you jumping in, and mostly critiquing me instead of the guy who clearly does more of the antagonizing, annoying. It’s almost you doing what you don’t like me doing. On the other hand, I don’t really care that much, and I’m just pointing it out because I do feel that Frink does get more free passes from peers and mods alike.
I only butt in because of that bone I had to pick with your post (I appreciate your clarification).
If it wasn’t for that I literally just wouldn’t have commented. I really don’t have anything to say against the rest of your post. I personally don’t think Frink is a problem and I certainly don’t think he’s any different than he used to be. Sometimes he goes too far but then he reins it in. You said your piece and that’s fine. I don’t have an issue with that.
Again, my point is just that when you make yourself out to be more mature or whatever, it’s annoying. I don’t think you can really say that that’s what I was doing by criticizing you, mostly because my goal on this forum isn’t maturity. I like being silly and sarcastic. When I’m at work, I don’t have much opportunity for that besides on here. That’s part of the reason why I find that kind of thing you do sometimes to be annoying.
I’m silly and sarcastic and even tease quite a bit, so I don’t understand the feeling that I try to be high and mighty. I just try to be respectful, and when I realize I’ve crossed a line, I try to apologize quickly and back down. Now that I’ve said this, maybe someone will say I’m trying to toot my own horn, but what I am actually doing is trying to admit that I make mistakes, but honestly say that I try to correct them.
Let me give an example. A month or so ago, I made a joke about menstruation. TV’s Frink, who has made his fair share of crude jokes, said, “I expected better from you,” or something very close. Now, I didn’t interpret what he said as being ‘holier than thou’. I made a joke that someone thought was tasteless or offensive. I apologized and edited the post. But TV’s Frink has made jokes that I have found offensive and unnecessary. Sometimes, I see it hurting someone else. I see the individual being picked on ask for him to stop, and instead, he continues to push buttons. Sometimes, he apologizes, but most of the time, he does not. This is not me trying to look better than him. This is me trying to say, “Look, you are calling me out on my faults. It would be nice if someone called him out more because I see far more people hurt by his behavior than mine.”
I respect if it’s not your intention to seem high and mighty, but I’m certainly not the only one who’s felt this way, so I don’t think I’m imagining it - to some extent it is on how you’ve acted.
Well, as I stated in my previous post in reply to yhwx, I think I know why I am perceived that way. I will accept your criticism, even though I don’t fully agree. As I often do in real life, I will apologize for whatever irritation it caused you or anyone else.
Now, I have a feeling that very sentence will warrant the feeling of, “Oh, high and mighty _ender thinks he is the only one who apologizes,” from someone (not necessarily you, Dom). Again, that is not my intent. I just would rather get along well and be the one to eat crow than continue bickering with people I’d rather get along with. It is hurtful when I feel like my apologies are one-sided. I do feel that I often suck it up and apologize, and those who have offended me don’t always do so as willingly. But on the other hand, I’d rather have peace.
Cool man. Obviously being annoyed at a holier than thou attitude isn’t really equal to getting offended by something someone said about you or what you care about, so no real worries. It’s just a minor thing to keep in mind before you post.
You take everything on this forum way too seriously.
Ding ding
Why doesn’t Frink want to engage Warbler in serious discussion?
I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.
What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777
Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840
Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392
Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470
Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.
You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.
- Going into a school where no one is armed.
- Going into a police station full of armed cops.
Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:
But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.
Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.
Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.
First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.
So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.
Hmmmm…
Maybe I am the stupid one here.
I’m in high school. I have many wonderful teachers. I don’t think any of them should be armed. Some of my teachers, and again, I love them, can hardly even operate a DVD player. I do not want any of them to be given firearms.
What about police officers that are extremely well trained and especially for a school environment and whom had been extremely background checked?
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157761427787777
Every time another one of these mass shootings happen - right when the Republicans start telling us that the answer is more guns, guns for everyone, guns for teachers, guns for students - I think about Chris Kyle.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964157915056803840
Chris Kyle was the American Sniper guy - a highly decorated Navy Seal sniper with 150 confirmed kills in the Iraq War. Whatever else is true about him, he definitely was very good at shooting guns and used to being in combat environments.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158367697723392
Kyle knew that the man he was with was dangerous. He knew he was armed - he armed him! To the degree that anyone could be forewarned and prepared for a situation, Kyle was. And yet the other guy shot two armed and trained men dead, got in a car and drove away.
https://twitter.com/markpopham/status/964158835043774470
Today a bunch of men are going to go to a gun store and they’re going to buy their third or 10th or 25th gun, because this scares them, and they think the gun is going to keep them safe.
You tell me in which scenario does a nut with gun have a better can at killing a lot of people.
- Going into a school where no one is armed.
- Going into a police station full of armed cops.
Or instead of hypotheticals, let’s use real numbers:
But that’s in hospitals. Maybe schools are different.
Maybe these security officers need better training and maybe they need holsters better designed to prevent a perp from doing that.
Honestly the way some of you are talking, it is a wonder you don’t post that you think cops should no longer carry guns. Maybe the military as well.
Yeah I’m not crazy about the fact that cops have the ability to kill people. That’s something that needs fixing.
First of all, I don’t believe in the death penalty, and that’s after due process. So I certainly don’t think a cop should have that power.
So you don’t think a cop should have the ability to defend himself/herself. Got it. ok. I am not going waste my time engaging you on such stupidity.
Putting aside your personal attack, I never said cops shouldn’t have the ability to defend themselves.
I don’t really think turning school shootings into school shootouts is the best idea.
What is worse
A. armed nut goes into school and shoots and kills 17 people
B. armed nut goes into school and tries to shoot and kill many people, but is quickly shot by armed police officer.
Leaving schools defenseless against these nuts is not the best idea either.
Warb, I didn’t say school shootouts would be worse (although they could be).
I think many on here have some, if not varying degrees of all of those flaws you posted there d_e, yourself included.
If you’re going to try and use this thread to try and goad Frink - or carry on/escalate from the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread - then think on mate.
Of course we all have such flaws. But there is no doubt that Frink’s character is unique to this forum, usually in a pleasant sense, periodically to an aggravating sense.
However, I am not trying to goad or escalate anything. I was trying to follow mrebo’s advice from that thread:
To be honest, I genuinely feel you’re not as enjoyable or nice as you used to be. Or maybe I’m just nicer than I used to be, leading me to sit on my high horse. 😛
I think you and Warb are just suffering faulty memory, but ok.
Im getting flashbacks of the Luke Skywalker debate. I think Frink is as delightful as ever 🐣
I think we should give the dead the respect they deserve in this thread and not get bogged down in petty internecine fights (definition provided for Dom’s benefit).
I don’t see how I am goading him. I was not rude or disrespectful. I am trying to converse in a more appropriate thread about what I feel is a problem. I am handling it in a very adult-like fashion, and frankly, I don’t need a moderator to tell me how to talk with another adult unless things get out of hand. So far, I don’t believe we’re even close to that point.
What’s more, you swooped in on my comment in the ‘[fill in the blank] Just Died!’ thread because a lack of careful phrasing made it look like a portion of my comment was a broad generalization, even though the latter part of the comment should have clarified. You quickly corrected me and stated that I shouldn’t generalize (to which I agreed) and presumably accepted my point that liberals and atheists should be respectful of religious/conservative individuals who have died. Literally, you castigated me for not using the word ‘many’ in one of two appropriate places. Meanwhile, Frink’s disrespectful comments, both before and after that, received no moderation, and they were clearly far more offensive.
Following all this, I come to this thread to carry on what I hope will be a productive conversation and where Frink might actually acknowledge that he has been ruder lately, and whom do you call out? Me. Never mind the goading that Frink gives chyron8472 routinely. Never mind the harassment that he leveled against Warbler in the NFL thread leading up to the Super Bowl, refusing for pages to acknowledge that he should back down. Never mind the instances where he decides to pick on yhwx and where it clearly is hurting his feelings. Never mind his lack of remorse on most of these occasions. No, call out darth_ender, who 95% of the time tries to be the peace maker. I really appreciate that.
Regardless of whether or not I agree with you (which I actually do, to an extent), I don’t think making yourself out to be the savior of behavioral decency on the forum is really helpful to this discussion.
I love how that’s not at all what I was doing. What I was saying is that, considering how often I try to do the right thing, I don’t think it’s very fair that I am the one getting called out by a moderator.
Yeah and I wasn’t saying you shouldn’t say that. But when you say something like you’re a peace maker 95% of the time (or trying to be), it’s distracting. I almost just posted “95% of the time? Really?” but I’m trying to be a little more constructive.
Well, I kind of appreciate your effort, but that’s like Warbler saying, “I would normally sigh here but I won’t.”
Not if the rest of my post is explaining my issue your post rather than just scoffing at it.
Respectfully, far too often you try to make yourself out to be the only adult here. I know your intentions are in the right place, but it’s honestly kind of annoying.
Perhaps it was the wrong choice of words. What I was doing was acknowledging that I have my lapses and descend into fighting, but 95% of the time, I feel I maintain maturity and keep the peace. I don’t mean that I act as a policeman for others (because usually I just butt out), but I mean I try not to contribute to a problem.
I mean, honestly, I find you jumping in, and mostly critiquing me instead of the guy who clearly does more of the antagonizing, annoying. It’s almost you doing what you don’t like me doing. On the other hand, I don’t really care that much, and I’m just pointing it out because I do feel that Frink does get more free passes from peers and mods alike.
I only butt in because of that bone I had to pick with your post (I appreciate your clarification).
If it wasn’t for that I literally just wouldn’t have commented. I really don’t have anything to say against the rest of your post. I personally don’t think Frink is a problem and I certainly don’t think he’s any different than he used to be. Sometimes he goes too far but then he reins it in. You said your piece and that’s fine. I don’t have an issue with that.
Again, my point is just that when you make yourself out to be more mature or whatever, it’s annoying. I don’t think you can really say that that’s what I was doing by criticizing you, mostly because my goal on this forum isn’t maturity. I like being silly and sarcastic. When I’m at work, I don’t have much opportunity for that besides on here. That’s part of the reason why I find that kind of thing you do sometimes to be annoying.
I’m silly and sarcastic and even tease quite a bit, so I don’t understand the feeling that I try to be high and mighty. I just try to be respectful, and when I realize I’ve crossed a line, I try to apologize quickly and back down. Now that I’ve said this, maybe someone will say I’m trying to toot my own horn, but what I am actually doing is trying to admit that I make mistakes, but honestly say that I try to correct them.
Let me give an example. A month or so ago, I made a joke about menstruation. TV’s Frink, who has made his fair share of crude jokes, said, “I expected better from you,” or something very close. Now, I didn’t interpret what he said as being ‘holier than thou’. I made a joke that someone thought was tasteless or offensive. I apologized and edited the post. But TV’s Frink has made jokes that I have found offensive and unnecessary. Sometimes, I see it hurting someone else. I see the individual being picked on ask for him to stop, and instead, he continues to push buttons. Sometimes, he apologizes, but most of the time, he does not. This is not me trying to look better than him. This is me trying to say, “Look, you are calling me out on my faults. It would be nice if someone called him out more because I see far more people hurt by his behavior than mine.”
I respect if it’s not your intention to seem high and mighty, but I’m certainly not the only one who’s felt this way, so I don’t think I’m imagining it - to some extent it is on how you’ve acted.
