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- #310686
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- 'So Fine' - Preservation Project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310686/action/topic#310686
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- #310685
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- Info: Hold onto your old Little Mermaid discs!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310685/action/topic#310685
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- #310552
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310552/action/topic#310552
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- #310546
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310546/action/topic#310546
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I doubt there's much you go do to fix it, but I found the SE's Max Reebo Band to be some of the crappiest CG characters I've ever seen.
I'd rather see a bunch of foam muppets then something that looks like it was lifted from a 10 year old video game.
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- #310543
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310543/action/topic#310543
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Although most preservation projects IVTC back to 23.976, for a quick and easy transfer it's fine to keep the telecining like that.
It only looked bad on your PC because computer monitors are progressive display and the field interlace lines are visible.
Any reasonably good DVD playback software (and most video card drivers) have built in deinterlacing algorithms that should have removed those lines on playback.
It sounds like you just didn't set your software up right.
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- #310453
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310453/action/topic#310453
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It is a 29.97 interlaced master tape not 24 fps film.
They then had some intern pretend to inverse telecine it back to progressive for the DVD leaving all sorts of interlacing artifacts.
As a result you are left with damage that cannot be repaired without orders of magnitude more difficulty.
The laserdisc, still telecined, can be cleanly IVTC'd properly to restore the original frames.
The artifacts also increase the complexity of the video, burn bitrate, increase compression artifacts, and prevent reasonable upscaling to anamorphic.
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- #310096
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310096/action/topic#310096
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One year, HBO actually spoofed themselves just for April Fool's day. The music was the same, but you saw a cheap video camera POV shot shake it's way over bits of the original model, followed by the logo dropping from above on very visible wires!
That sounds funny as hell. I'd love to see that.
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- #310021
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310021/action/topic#310021
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- #309912
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309912/action/topic#309912
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I can say I have a substantial amount of old VHS tapes that were recorded from HBO over the years.
If I can find this I will rip it.
Seems like an odd request, but what the hey.
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- #309863
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- STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309863/action/topic#309863
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No really, adywan, I sympathize. I went through a HDD fiasco a few months back. I thought I had 2 drives fail.
I was terrified for some projects I was working on (not to mention everything else).
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- #309450
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- STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309450/action/topic#309450
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Mind you, why don't you just try using Window's System Restore to a point before you installed the crappy Divx software.
Edit: Love the Alderann clip. JarJar must die! Adds emotional impact? I'm suddenly glad they blew up the planet.
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- #308428
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- ***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308428/action/topic#308428
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I sort of wish HD-DVD won, it would be easier to rip and work with.
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- #308427
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- RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308427/action/topic#308427
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Kirk: Does this space suit make my ass look big?
Spock: Are you kidding? I'm a frickin' creamsicle!
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- #308302
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- ***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308302/action/topic#308302
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it's a newly restored high definition transfer with DD 5.1 audio.
There's a simultaneous BluRay release so I guess they sort of had to do a bit of work on it.
Some new extras, some interesting old stuff they dug up, etc.
It'll make a nice companion to the 2-disc S.E. Holy Grail and Meaning of Life releases either way.
I just wish they incorporated some of the missing scenes themselves. You've sort of spoiled us with your version.
Anyway, no word if the deleted scenes have been restored or not though.
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- #308247
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- ***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308247/action/topic#308247
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I'm a bit surprised they didn't extended it themselves since Holy Grail and Meaning Of Life were longer in their special edition release.
Anyone know if the deleted scenes are restored as nicely (by computer cleverness) as the movie in the new release?
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- #306255
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- DRESDEN FILES - 2-HOUR PILOT PRESERVATION (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/306255/action/topic#306255
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If you all hear about another airing (especially Canada) please post it.
For information this was posted by Robert Wolfe at JimButcherOnline.com
Just to clear things up, the "unaired pilot" that finally aired on Space is a bit of a Frankenstein's monster. Here's a very rough chronology for clarity. Dates are approximate because I'm doing this from slightly foggy memory.
Dec 05: Original Pilot shot
Jan - Feb 06: Original Pilot edited
March 06: Original Pilot cut down by trailer house into @65 minute Presentation. Temp Bob voice added. Rough VFX added.
April 06: Some critics see Presentation. Presentation is also tested. Response is generally favorable, but there are concerns. SciFi wants additional changes.
August 06: Series greenlit. David Simkins brought in as Exec Producer. As the series gears up, SciFi gives notes on the Presentation, asks for a strategy to address their notes. David, working with Hans and I, comes up with an approach and pitches it to SciFi. Approach approved, but requires significant reshooting (to add Bob, etc). Hans and I write several additional scenes to fill out the pilot, mostly involving the backstory of Harry and his father. Some recutting of the pilot begins in Los Angeles.
Fall 06: Terrance is cast. Pre-production begins. Due to budget constraints, reshoots for the pilot are back-burnered. Also, to save money, Post Production is moved to Toronto. Versions of the Harry/Colm backstory are rewritten by David and incorporated into the script for "Birds of a Feather." Hans leaves the show to work on another pilot. I go to Toronto to supervise on the set and in post while David stays in Los Angeles to run the writing room. Production begins with "Rules of Engagement."
Late Fall/Early Winter 06: SciFi, given the choice between beginning the series with either Birds, Boone, Rules or the Pilot (which still has not been reshoot to fill out the entire two hours due to budget issues) chooses Birds. The decision is made to cut down the pilot to one-hour and air it later in the schedule.
Winter 06: A new editor is brought in to work with David and me to cut Pilot down to one-hour. Cuts are made both to fit the alloted time and to better incorporate the Pilot into a later slot series continuity. Some revoicing is done for continuity, including Jane McLean revoicing all of Ancient Mai's dialogue to given the shapeshifting character vocal continuity.
Jan 07: Series premiere. Contractually, Lionsgate is required to delivery a 2 hour version of the Pilot to many markets. Lionsgate asks for a 2 hour version to be cut. However, reshoots are ruled out due to budget. In order to accomplish a 2 hour version without reshooting, it is necessary to treat the 2 hour as "out of continuity." In other words, it is simply not possible to make the 2 hour "fit" into the series. The 2 hour will be treated as a stand alone movie. The new editor and I fill out the Presentation version of the pilot with additional material from the original shoot and from various episodes, reincorporating elements from the original Pilot and from the restructured version David proposed in August. The scenes originally intended for the restructured Pilot but later used for Birds and Bob are cut into the pilot along with various other elements from the series.
Feb 07: Terrance revoices Bob. All the actors, especially Paul, record additional voice material to help smooth out the story.
March 07: Two hour version finished. Additionally, the two hour version is cut so it can be aired as two 1 hr episodes. Lionsgate intends to include the 2 hr on the DVD release.
Summer 07: Series cancelled. DVD set comes out without 2 hr pilot. (Why? I still don't really know. Probably something contractual.)
Jan 08: 2 hour version of the pilot finally airs on Space in Canada as well as in other markets.
And there you go.
Dec 05: Original Pilot shot
Jan - Feb 06: Original Pilot edited
March 06: Original Pilot cut down by trailer house into @65 minute Presentation. Temp Bob voice added. Rough VFX added.
April 06: Some critics see Presentation. Presentation is also tested. Response is generally favorable, but there are concerns. SciFi wants additional changes.
August 06: Series greenlit. David Simkins brought in as Exec Producer. As the series gears up, SciFi gives notes on the Presentation, asks for a strategy to address their notes. David, working with Hans and I, comes up with an approach and pitches it to SciFi. Approach approved, but requires significant reshooting (to add Bob, etc). Hans and I write several additional scenes to fill out the pilot, mostly involving the backstory of Harry and his father. Some recutting of the pilot begins in Los Angeles.
Fall 06: Terrance is cast. Pre-production begins. Due to budget constraints, reshoots for the pilot are back-burnered. Also, to save money, Post Production is moved to Toronto. Versions of the Harry/Colm backstory are rewritten by David and incorporated into the script for "Birds of a Feather." Hans leaves the show to work on another pilot. I go to Toronto to supervise on the set and in post while David stays in Los Angeles to run the writing room. Production begins with "Rules of Engagement."
Late Fall/Early Winter 06: SciFi, given the choice between beginning the series with either Birds, Boone, Rules or the Pilot (which still has not been reshoot to fill out the entire two hours due to budget issues) chooses Birds. The decision is made to cut down the pilot to one-hour and air it later in the schedule.
Winter 06: A new editor is brought in to work with David and me to cut Pilot down to one-hour. Cuts are made both to fit the alloted time and to better incorporate the Pilot into a later slot series continuity. Some revoicing is done for continuity, including Jane McLean revoicing all of Ancient Mai's dialogue to given the shapeshifting character vocal continuity.
Jan 07: Series premiere. Contractually, Lionsgate is required to delivery a 2 hour version of the Pilot to many markets. Lionsgate asks for a 2 hour version to be cut. However, reshoots are ruled out due to budget. In order to accomplish a 2 hour version without reshooting, it is necessary to treat the 2 hour as "out of continuity." In other words, it is simply not possible to make the 2 hour "fit" into the series. The 2 hour will be treated as a stand alone movie. The new editor and I fill out the Presentation version of the pilot with additional material from the original shoot and from various episodes, reincorporating elements from the original Pilot and from the restructured version David proposed in August. The scenes originally intended for the restructured Pilot but later used for Birds and Bob are cut into the pilot along with various other elements from the series.
Feb 07: Terrance revoices Bob. All the actors, especially Paul, record additional voice material to help smooth out the story.
March 07: Two hour version finished. Additionally, the two hour version is cut so it can be aired as two 1 hr episodes. Lionsgate intends to include the 2 hr on the DVD release.
Summer 07: Series cancelled. DVD set comes out without 2 hr pilot. (Why? I still don't really know. Probably something contractual.)
Jan 08: 2 hour version of the pilot finally airs on Space in Canada as well as in other markets.
And there you go.
So technically the workprint was probably the closest to an 'original pilot' that this series ever got.
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- #306115
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- ***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/306115/action/topic#306115
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- #305464
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- DRESDEN FILES - 2-HOUR PILOT PRESERVATION (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305464/action/topic#305464
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Can anyone rip? It's tonight.
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- #305331
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- DRESDEN FILES - 2-HOUR PILOT PRESERVATION (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305331/action/topic#305331
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Holy crap!!!!
Can anyone cap this?!?!?!
At least I only finished the effects shot for the opening.
I would have been more mad if I had gotten further.
More interesting is that the workprint is 65 minutes. That's 1-1/2 hours with commercials.
That means there's even more footage.
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- #304791
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- RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304791/action/topic#304791
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- #304036
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304036/action/topic#304036
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- #303646
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/303646/action/topic#303646
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I just remembered more to Rolf's song. Some of the other extended bits described on IMDB also sound quite familiar.
I suspect that they might have been inserted to TV airings. Either way I'd still like to see an extended version.
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- #302915
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- Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302915/action/topic#302915
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- #302352
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302352/action/topic#302352
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Is the XØ Project doing anything to stabilize the laserdisc footage or will it have the shake in it as well?
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- #302224
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- DRESDEN FILES - 2-HOUR PILOT PRESERVATION (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302224/action/topic#302224
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Much of the workprint consists of missing effects, shots with big honkin' text saying "Temporary Effect", or "Insert Shot of Cell Phone In Snow", blue screens, and overdubs from people that aren't the actor (or the even the same gender).
Now I can replace as much as possible with final DVD footage but there are some differences.
For example, I love the workprint's title-ing for location/time. It's cool and dynamic. The final TV version is plain white text and look ugly.
Btw, for you Jim Butcher book fans, you'll be pleased to know that Bob is a skull! (Ok so he's a CGI animated firey skull a'la Ghostrider (For 5 seconds and then it's just missing effect shots the rest of the episode)).
Anyway, the opening shot is longer with music in the workprint. In the TV version it's quick, and there is a much more violent storm in progress.
Oh yeah, and the final version of the shot looks so much better.
The question is, am I reconstructing the episode or am I reconstructing the workprint?
If the latter, then I have to ditch final footage when it doesn't match.
If the former then I should replace scenes from the workprint when there are better/completed final analogs.
And that's confusing as well since some shots look like the effects are more animatic or slapped together looking. Also, and I don't know if it's a deliberate creative decision or not, but some shots have some oddly tweaked color timing and overblown brightness. It could be the nature of it being a workprint or it could be to convey mood.
I would like to keep the soundtrack from the workprint. It's an interesting collection (and a bit silly): The Cure (Burn), ELO (Strange Magic, of course), Chris Isaak (Shadows In A Mirror ("I'm watching somebody's heart break in two..."))...
Thoughts?
Is anyone still subscribed to this thread?
Workprint:

Final SFX:
