I don’t think it was ever broadcast in true 16x9. My source was a letterboxed widescreen from Canada.
I’m told it aired late one night in the U.S., but I never even knew that until long after the fact. So I have no idea how Syfy broadcasted it. Maybe they cropped it.
I had a chance to skip around and look at a lot of scenes on Friday. Wow. The movie has probably never looked that good.
I can’t be sure of the colors without comparing them to other releases, but they just feel like Disney didn’t do their usual messing around with them.
Don’t know who is running things there now, but if this is the start of the trend, I’m going to be very happy.
…don’t get me started on the Darby O’Gill release though.
I haven’t had a chance to see the new 4k Cinderella release yet, but it seems like that should now be the recommended version. Opinions?
A lot of streaming and TV channels crop for broadcast because they are for a general audience and they want to fill the screen.
Physical media tends to be for real fans and have more correct AR… of course this is Disney, so there is no telling.
I know Snow White should look that good later this years and there is rumor that there is standard Blu-rays of Peter Pan and Sword and the Stone in the works that might be done in a similar manner.
Here’s hoping.
I was looking today, and see the import bd-50s are pretty scarce unless you use eBay or something.
I’m failing to remember which is supposed to be better:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354678504169
or
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165551504234
I think it was the second one, but my original insight into this came from a forum that no longer exists, so I can’t look it up.
Can we change the name of this thread to ‘PM sent’?
Thanks jolennon. Checked them out and cautiously optimistic.
My biggest hatred for Disney’s ‘restorations’ is when they scrub the image and then use edge enhancement.
The images look computer generated instead of hand drawn
Lines can get thicker and thinner as they go and the ends are smoothed to a point.
Those screenshots don’t that issue.
Btw, the Digital Bits is reporting that Snow White is getting a 4k this year as well.
Oooh.
the new 4K master of Cinderella is glorious
unfortunately the mono mix is excluded
Considering this doesn’t come out until August… how can you be sure?
I do remember reading an article that when they were converting some films to 3D (Finding Nemo was mentioned), they had to adjust the layout of objects in a scene, and in the case of Nemo, reduce the amount of bubbles and stuff suspended in the water because in 3D it was too distracting.
Again, what movie are you talking about? The original post seems to be talking about a 1999 Peter Pan DVD, yet AFAIK, there was no release that year.
AntcuFaalb said:
(For now, let’s say that “best” means “most accurate to the original theatrical presentation”.)
By your standard of best, here is what I know.
2. Pinnochio
1987 CAV LD- Technicolor Color Timing
12. Cinderella
1995 Special Collector’s Edition CAV- RKO Logo, Original Timing, No Restoration Errors, and Original Mix Available (as LD Audio track option).
14. Peter Pan
1999 DVD- Original Color Timing (blue/non-revisionist and not yellow shifted) in DVD Video Quality (not sure about audio).
I know the above isn’t much, but hope it helps.
How would you compare that to the 1991 Laserdisc?
1991 Laserdisc for what?
I need to take it back. The Aladdin DTS 5.1 track I was talking about was an edit based on the BD. I don’t know what I thought it was sourced from the 35mm.
Little Mermaid and Aladdin were orignaly Dolby stereo. Everything since then is an upmix.
I do know the Little Mermaid had a surround up/re-mix for the theatrical re-release and that track was included on the first DVD. After that you start getting Disney’s crap home theater mixes instead.
I’m not sure about the history of Aladdin, I’d assume it’s identical since the 35mm transfer is also a 5.1 DTS track.
Most of the audio coming from the from would be the most accurate.
Btw, I’ve seen the 35mm audio track of Aladdin, but where I found it they don’t have it synced to any video because of site rules (or something). You may have to sync the track yourself, but it’s worth it since there were lyric and dialog changes. Little Mermaid, afaik, doesn’t suffer from that.
Wow. I’d love to see if this is possible. I had to read your post twice to understand it.
You might want to try checking if the UHD HFR release is right or left eye only. If it is, you might possibly downscale the 4k source, and then take the missing eye side from the 3D BD, and then use an AI framerate increase on it.
Then you can skip depth maps, etc. Sure the extrapolate side will have lower quality, but when viewed in 3D the difference should smooth out.
I’d love to see this… assuming I have hardware capable of playing it.
Of course my preference would be the Hobbit films, since GM isn’t supposed to be very good and I skipped seeing it.
Edit: As far as the Hobbit goes, I’m fairly certain there is no such thing as 1080p48 on anything, 2D or 3D.
I always figured a HFR 2D release could be created (if you had a HFR source) by doing a double telecine to 60 fps and then decombing it. I suppose the same idea might hold for a 3D version.
Edit 2: Apparently my 8 year old Sony with Panasonic active 3d glasses handles 1080p60 3D just fine. I had my doubts.
I’m assuming you’ll keep the frame rate at the 59.94 that the UHD BD uses so you don’t have to re-encode the audio.
For anyone curious, here is a test I created. The source is the ‘Big Buck Bunny’ short (which has a Creative Commons license, so should be okay to post here). I split it, resized, restacked, re-encoded and slowed it to 1080p59.94 Half Side By Side 3D with Dolby 5.1 audio.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e3xx8s70lc1terx/Big_Buck_Bunny_Half-SBS_3D_1080p59.94.mkv/file
Have any more details? I only like the first movie, and On Stranger Tides (even though it is a corruption of the novel).
You guys seem to be interested in the “snow cones” censorship part of the forum. Well, here is a comparison of both the 3D blu-ray & the 2009 blu-ray:
As you can clearly see, the censored version (right) loses the detail of the snow cones as seen on the uncensored version (left).
If you can’t see the image, go here: https://imgur.io/a/QhGfpiY
Are the snow cones really censored? What am I seeing that they don’t want me to see there?
Yeah, that snow cone censorship is a mystery to me too.
The censored TS2 Harvey Weinstein joke I know about.
I rewatched some of this movie the other day, and while a lot of the elements seem recycled from prior movies, the real issue is Carina. She basically reduces the franchise’s original characters to pointlessness.
Has anyone tried removing some/most/all of Mary Sue Barbossa from the movie? It seems it would be so much more watchable.
I saw talk yesterday about a 4k transfer of a 35mm print of Aladdin, but can’t find it where it was reputed to be. Anyone know anything about it?
Nice work. My hope has always been someone deepfaking Ford to look younger so the action scenes seem more reasonable.
Considering he drank from the Holy Grail, it isn’t unreasonable to think he’d be younger looking than his age in Crystal Skull.
Hello DMC. I’m so happy to have found that someone has the restored of this special. If you would PM it to me that would be heavily obliged.
I was upset when I realized they removed so much. I looked online for the missing segments and when I came across this I had to sign up in hopes of being able to see Emmett Otter like i remember. DMC could you please PM me I would appreciate a copy of the the restored full version. Thank you so much for keeping this alive for Emmet Otter fans.
Sent and sent!
Thank you so much! Between getting this and the release of the full length version of Muppets Christmas Carol on D+ I’m sure to have a very merry muppet christmas this year lmao (I just watched that movie a few days ago). Thanks again and happy holidays.
Now you need a restored copy of the “Muppet Family Christmas”.
I haven’t updated this in a while, but I’ve seen no evidence that the newer releases from Disney are in any way respectful of the original versions.
If anyone has recommendations for changes, I’m open to them.
I know TheDigitalBits contact them about it, but I don’t think they got an answer.
AFAIK, YouTube uploaders can’t have more than 2-channels. 5.1 is only available for YouTube’s own movies.
