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Editroid said:
Where can I find your "Restored Versions" of Make Mine Music and Melody Time?
This site could probably use a in thread search.
nickdiba said:
Behodar said:
Doctor M said:
While reviews of the current BD are good, the aspect ratio is NOT theatrical, measuring 2.24:1 instead of 2.39:1. Dunno why.
It seems to be due to laziness. The 2k master is 2048x858 (2.39) and instead of doing a proper rescale, they've cropped the edges off to make it 1920x858 (2.24).
*headdesk*
Edit: Just tried the iTunes download and it's in the wrong aspect too.
As long as the master is the same for the DCP, that is what they always do with every movie. The ones in the "correct" 2.39 AR on the BD are simply further cropped (vertically) down to 1920*806, so we end up losing 12% of the picture. Check out the BD of Raiders of the lost ark. Nice crap, huh?
Behodar: Have you seen screenshot comparisons that can prove the edges are cropped and not that the matte was opened at the top/bottom?
If so it will be noted in the guide.
Since the second list isn't 'Diamond' I assume they're probably going to just use best available prints. At least we can hope.
Yikes. According to TheDigitalBits:
And here’s something Rumor Mill worthy... the Disney Wiki has listed street dates for upcoming Disney Diamond Edition Blu-ray animated titles, including Sleeping Beauty (10/2), 101 Dalmatians (2/3/15), Aladdin (10/6/15), and Pinocchio (2/2/16). The very same Wiki has also listed the following additional BD releases for this year: Muppets Most Wanted (June), Hercules (6/10), Tarzan (6/10), A Goofy Movie & An Extremely Goofy Movie (2-Movie Collection – 6/24), Mickey, Donald and Goofy: The Three Musketeers (Summer), The Black Cauldron: Special Edition (8/19), Bears (8/26), Fun and Fancy Free (9/30), The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad (9/30), Saludos Amigos & The Three Caballeros (2-Movie Collection – 12/2), Make Mine Music & Melody Time (2-Movie Collection – 12/2), and Planes: Fire & Rescue (12/9). Salt this information appropriately, but still... these dates make sense. Thanks to Bits reader Bill M. for the heads-up.
If the Russian color is good, though, it might be a good source for a chroma channel.
I haven't moved to Win7 quite yet so this is a good question.
I know Win7 Pro http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 (and 8 with some additional work http://lifehacker.com/5965889/how-to-run-windows-xp-for-free-in-windows-8/all) have the ability to run XP inside a window under the new operating systems.
Here is a guide if you don't have the Pro edition: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/10/how_to_run_xp_on_new_windows/
It should get QuickPar running, but I've never this.
Does QuickPar work in a virtual XP box?
AntcuFaalb said:
Doctor M said:
Purist recommendation: 1995 Laserdisc may be the best. The 1982 Laserdisc source print was beat up, but is reported to have very accurate colors.
From where did you hear that the 1982 LD release has very accurate colors?
That's a really good question... um, huh.
I think it was a forum discussion at DVDizzy: http://www.dvdizzy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21174
The problem is the comparison screenshots have oddly gone black and white so there is no proof besides people's opinion at the time they were posted.
An interesting discussion about the colors of Dumbo (at least in recent releases) can be found here: http://colorfulanimationexpressions.blogspot.com/2010/05/dumbo-for-our-times.html
I probably posted that link before.
jade88 said:
Is the DVD transfer in the Alice In Wonderlan 2011 Blu Ray combo any good? I know that it's not the same trasnfer as the Blu Ray disc, i'm just wondering if it's better than the Gold collection or Masterpiece transfers.
It's a transfer from the Lowry's restoration in 2004. It was also re-released in 2010. If you're a purist you may not want it, but it is quite good and better than the 2011 BD.
You'll get the same transfer and a better selection of extras if you get an older DVD instead.
@ALL - Rumor has it Disney will be releasing a double dip/Special Edition of Frozen come the holiday season. It should include more bonus features and a 3D version (which the UK already has). Plan your purchases accordingly.
While reviews of the current BD are good, the aspect ratio is NOT theatrical, measuring 2.24:1 instead of 2.39:1. Dunno why.
Edit: Also (unempirically), the DVD looks intentionally soft. Could be yet another dirty trick to forcing people into buying BDs, could be to save bitrate, could be my eyes.
Can't it be both?
A long time ago via PIF I received a copy of "Love Actually Bloated and Flatulent..." on DVD9. The burn was bad and I was never able to get any standalone device or optical drive to read it completely.
Every new optical drive I've bought over the years, I always use it as a sort of stress test for reading bad discs just to see how much it can actually get through before giving up.
Testing my nifty new Pioneer BDR drive today and... it reads 100%!!
So I offer to revive this long missing ADM edit. Is there interest in the DVD9 version? I also have the official DVD5 shrunk version as well.
Chime in, PM me, whatever and I'll see about sharing.
It goes without saying that a new BD version would be even better.
Is that the same frame with the missing pixie dust? Because that looks great.
Edit: No it is a frame early but it looks like it has the same amount of pixie dust as the laserdisc, just with more detail, dirt and better colors: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Recommended-Editions-of-Disney-Animated-and-Partially-Animated-Features/post/653541/#TopicPost653541
Looks
I guess Sword in The Stone having a good HDTV release is an exception. Pity.
@Laserschwert - Sure, check TPB. You'll probably want to strip the 3 Russian audio tracks.
monks19 said:
There is a 1080i hdtv version listed on TehParadox but the only screen shot isn't from an animated scene. I have no idea what the quality is and it's about all I can find.
Anyone else?
Dr M, the 1080i hdtv version you mentioned uses exactly the same master for the actual blu-ray. I just checked. I will post later some screen caps of it and also some of the gold collection dvd edition .
There is also an Hindi HDTV version floating around. And that is all I know about that. Thanks for checking the 1080i one.
There is a 1080i hdtv version listed on TehParadox but the only screen shot isn't from an animated scene. I have no idea what the quality is and it's about all I can find.
Anyone else?
I realized the guide needs a small update. Apparently the 3D version of Chicken Little is inexplicably poor, which should be mentioned.
I know I haven't given comment to the recent Jungle Book (which seems to be as poor as expected).
Anyone have any other updates they want added or that I've missed?
Btw, just re-watched Chicken Little for the first time in 8 years and was shocked to find it enjoyable. That wasn't my experience the first time. No idea why, but it was worth a second look.
Does the laserdisc have the same ghosting from DNR as the first DVD?
The '93 LD was the same master as the first DVD, but the '87 LD was different.
Limited Edition/Gold Pinocchio is recommended over the Platinum DVD and BD: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews44/pinocchio_blu-ray.htm
I couldn't tell you what website I was reading that referred to the aspect ratio as family friendly for Winnie the Pooh. It is 1.66:1 on BD though. Correcting the guide. Thanks for keeping me honest.
I also said the prior DVDs were 1.66:1 instead of 1.33:1. I wonder if I was thinking about a different film when I wrote that.
While the case gives no dimensions, Many Adventures measures to 1.66:1. It's narrow enough for vertical bars to show up on the sides of a 16:9 television with overscan. It seems like a compromise between the 1.33:1 aspect ratio used on the film's two previous DVD releases and the 1.75:1 ratio exhibitors in 1977 were instructed to project it in. We lose some of the frame height from the "full screen DVDs" but not enough to throw off compositions. Since these cartoons were produced over eleven years, it's not even clear if they stuck to one consistent ratio. It would be nice for Disney to shed some light on these decisions instead of just leaving us to guess and then second-guess when they change their policies.
TServo2049 said:
As I said, pre-CAPS animated features were clearly shot with a lot of "breathing room" so they could be presented matted anywhere from 1.66:1-1.85:1. The 4x3 releases may be slightly cropped because showing the extra side information visible in the widescreen transfers would also reveal unwanted vertical info, like cels that end within the frame - "floating torsos", etc.
Jungle Book wasn't theatrically exhibited in 4:3, so both ratios are valid. But I do like the idea of showing as much of the exposed frame as possible - there are a few 90s animated films (not Disney) where the widescreen and 4:3 versions each show unique picture info, indicating that they were shot at something like 1.66:1, and there is part of the frame that's never been seen in any transfers.
But that's probably not going to happen any time soon...
Sure, you'd expect some cropping. But my point is that the anamorphic and wide releases of Jungle Book actually have more left/right information than the 4x3 releases.
If the 4x3 version is all the animation fit to be seen, the widescreen should ONLY be less on the top and bottom. That is not the case.
cms382 said:
I'd give the original Peter Pan LD the overall advantage for being able to withstand the most adjustments from a TV set compared to the other editions.
The Jungle Book LD has some unique colors and better animation lines, but the contrast ruins it. It's the only 4:3 transfer with colors similar to the Platinum and Diamond transfer, so there's that.
Is that the '97 LD? If so the Limited Issue DVD used the same master.
Edit: Sorry you do show '92.
Yeah, when animation is concerned, I prefer open matte. If the animators bothered to draw it, I want to see it.
Jungle Book open matte should be 4x3. Unfortunately, the home video releases are slightly cropped so you still aren't getting the full image on the 4x3 transers.
Btw, The Rescuers OAR is 1.66:1. Both DVD releases are in that format. They definitely didn't over restore the '12 BD/DVD. They didn't even bother to do an all digital transfer of Down Under for that set.
If you don't like the image though, the Gold Edition sure isn't restored and should look better than the LD.
I see no way the DE could possibly be correct. Wendy's nightgown is supposed to be blue. Peter wears green not brown. The screenshots sure don't show that.
The LD may not be perfect, but the Diamond is a Zirconium.
Also you can see some pixie dust(?) on Tink's right boob on the LD and nothing on the DE.
IIRC the lawyer things was posted on SouthPark.com after the whole debacle happened.
I believe their blog there had a few updates about their efforts to provide the uncut version on their website as they usually do.
Snagged the TPB version, haven't watched it yet, hopefully it is legit.