I was getting ready to share this with family and noticed the MySpleen Exclusive version.
Is that version official from PhilFrog or some third party mod of it?
Hash checking it against my older disc, none of the files match, not even the .jpg of the cover art.
Ok… I’m trying to remember what I learned from the fan group back in the 90s. I did find my Viewers Guide (publicity booklet with a lot of details about the series. I should scan and share that.), and a Polaroid photo with a post-a-note signed by Samoset offering me Duncan’s Tequila painting for $50.
Anyway, what I recall is they used different film for the real world and VR. I BELIEVE that real world footage is shot on film at 24p like regular TV was at the time and telecined to 29.97i. VR footage, on the other hand, IIRC was filmed using a different stock (possibly B&W) so they could colorize and manipulate it with the final modified version being in video format. So, although it’s all 29.97i, if you bob the VR footage you’ll find it to be 59.94 unique fields.
The conversion to PAL 25FPS means that there is a lot of blending that affects VR and real world footage differently.
If you are upscaling, I’d recommend going 720p60 since you can’t convert to 24p.
VR5 was released commercially on VHS in the U.S… (Although some music was changed to save money.) I have my old VHS tapes from back then, but most importantly there are is pretty good TV rip available. I believe it is Russian. There is also a movie version of the first two episodes together that includes some deleted footage.
The only problem is it needs labor intensive conversion to NTSC (which has been on my to-do list for years since I love this series).
In and out of VR scenes changed between 24p telecined to 29.97i and native 29.97i footage.
As a result the PAL conversion needs different restorations for different scenes.
I did have the graphic novel, and maybe it was in some other movie, but I remember him tying his arm to the periscope with his whip, and waking up the next morning and coughing/choking on some water as he woke.
This has me crazy that it doesn’t exist.
Ooh. I can’t believe I just saw this… subscribed and waiting now.
Still convinced I saw Indy on the periscope in the movie when I was growing up.
Tonight I noticed there are two different restorations of Who Framed Roger Rabbit on 'spleen.
One from a 4k master and one from the standard Bluray.
Even reading the details, I have no idea which is better. I see mention there are color timing differences, but of course restoring the censored bits takes talent.
Anyone know which is better, the pluses or minuses?
Blu-ray.com’s review actually mentions some technical flaws in the original Snow White animation being present untouched. Maybe they missed some things, but it’s not like they’re adding dewbacks. Things that are really technical flaws aren’t intentional by anyone who worked on the film.
Their ‘restored’ Darby O’Gill BD was garbage. The audio track on that was 1.0 mono and lossy at half the bitrate of the DVD (which to be fair was 2.0 mono).
Am I correct that Snow White has a 1080p Blu-ray sourced from the same remaster as the 4k UHD?
Oh, yeah. I love watching deleted scenes. I thought you wanted all of that put into the movies.
Oh wow!, when is this releasing and where? HBO Max or blu ray?
Not at all. Some of those scenes were alternate takes that weren’t consistent with the source. Some were just test images that were rejected by the director before the effects were even finished. Heck, some of the scenes I haven’t even heard they ever filmed.
I’m nearly a year late responding to this, but never in my time as a casual Harry Potter fan have I heard this claim regarding the unreleased footage. I’m not trying to argue with you, Doc, but I believe the scenes I mentioned last year exist somewhere in the WBD vaults. I could be wrong, but who knows? 😁
Movies aren’t made by the original author writing the script, handing it to the director who films it as written and the actors recite the dialog word for word.
There are always alternate takes, changes in dialog, ad libbing, multiple revisions to scripts, etc. Hours and hours are filmed for any movie, but all the footage isn’t intended to be used for one reason or another. As such, they don’t necessarily spend money on vfx for that footage.
Heck, it’s one of the reason some movies are on hold right now with the writers strike; changes in dialog while filming is considered writing in most cases.
I’m not saying the footage doesn’t exist (it probably does) or has been destroyed. I’m saying it doesn’t necessarily belong in the movies.
I’m looking for an update on the best BD50 at the moment.
Like I said, I recall it being the white 50 pack spindle from Japan (which I believe was 4x), but times change.
Heck, the don’t seem to exist anymore.
Anyone have a recommendation at this point?
Anyone else excited for Snow White in 4k? After the Cinderella release i am looking forward to it. Its coming in October, and is reportedly a brand new scan off the original negative.
TheDigitalBits had a screenshot comparison, but always consider, they can ‘new scan’ all they want, it’s what they do to it afterwards that can be anything.
I do plan on doing more comparisons when I have time, but the new UHD release does seem to finally be the best version of the movie available.
I don’t think it was ever broadcast in true 16x9. My source was a letterboxed widescreen from Canada.
I’m told it aired late one night in the U.S., but I never even knew that until long after the fact. So I have no idea how Syfy broadcasted it. Maybe they cropped it.
I had a chance to skip around and look at a lot of scenes on Friday. Wow. The movie has probably never looked that good.
I can’t be sure of the colors without comparing them to other releases, but they just feel like Disney didn’t do their usual messing around with them.
Don’t know who is running things there now, but if this is the start of the trend, I’m going to be very happy.
…don’t get me started on the Darby O’Gill release though.
I haven’t had a chance to see the new 4k Cinderella release yet, but it seems like that should now be the recommended version. Opinions?
A lot of streaming and TV channels crop for broadcast because they are for a general audience and they want to fill the screen.
Physical media tends to be for real fans and have more correct AR… of course this is Disney, so there is no telling.
I know Snow White should look that good later this years and there is rumor that there is standard Blu-rays of Peter Pan and Sword and the Stone in the works that might be done in a similar manner.
Here’s hoping.
I was looking today, and see the import bd-50s are pretty scarce unless you use eBay or something.
I’m failing to remember which is supposed to be better:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354678504169
or
https://www.ebay.com/itm/165551504234
I think it was the second one, but my original insight into this came from a forum that no longer exists, so I can’t look it up.
Can we change the name of this thread to ‘PM sent’?
Thanks jolennon. Checked them out and cautiously optimistic.
My biggest hatred for Disney’s ‘restorations’ is when they scrub the image and then use edge enhancement.
The images look computer generated instead of hand drawn
Lines can get thicker and thinner as they go and the ends are smoothed to a point.
Those screenshots don’t that issue.
Btw, the Digital Bits is reporting that Snow White is getting a 4k this year as well.
Oooh.
the new 4K master of Cinderella is glorious
unfortunately the mono mix is excluded
Considering this doesn’t come out until August… how can you be sure?
I do remember reading an article that when they were converting some films to 3D (Finding Nemo was mentioned), they had to adjust the layout of objects in a scene, and in the case of Nemo, reduce the amount of bubbles and stuff suspended in the water because in 3D it was too distracting.
Again, what movie are you talking about? The original post seems to be talking about a 1999 Peter Pan DVD, yet AFAIK, there was no release that year.