im just here scrolling trying to find a link to all extended editions, cuz i lost them recently
No, you didn’t. Links are NEVER posted on the OT forum. Try again.
Doh. Yes you did. And it’s not like mixing up the castles.
You’re sure that 1997 is when they did that restoration? That stinks.
Then the best untouched answer is a pan and scan laserdisc? I don’t know how I feel about that.
It also makes the 2008 DVD the best digital alternative.
Eek.
I wanted to say thank you for this thread, it is incredibly helpful!
For the first post. Sleeping Beauty’s 1997 Laserdisc is the digitally restored one with rotoscoping. The feature about rotoscoping all the characters out, is a feature on that laserdisc.
So the aggressive restoration it mentioned is from 1997, not 2003. Only the pre 97 versions would be purist, although they are Pan and Scan.
Did you read the first post?
“Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937): First ‘fully restored’ by Lowry in 1994. This is also when the Masterpiece VHS and laserdiscs came out. As far as I am aware there is no home video format that has not been reanimated.”
The recommendation is for the least altered version available.
There is no purist recommendation.
As previously mentioned in this thread…
It’s not some rare unicorn that requires someone’s grandparents finding a copy. It’s STILL available on the torrent site I previously mentioned (re-encoded from DVD to x264 with some minor clean up). It contains temp music, temp/missing/incomplete fx, blue/green screens and even cards for missing shots.
It looks like this:
There is also the TV movie version that incorporates previously unused footage from the rough cut. These scenes were finished and added along with new material and scenes culled from the rest of the season. The recycled scenes from the series largely consist of flashbacks.
Terrance Mann, who was hired to play Bob after the original pilot was completed, returned to provide a new voice for Bob the Skull.
Because of these changes, it does not fit in continuity with the rest of the series and acts as a stand alone “Storm Front” movie.
Bob now looks like this:
For those interested, just ask.
I kind of feel this thread needs a mention fo RedFox’s new software, AnyStream. https://redfox.bz/anystream.html
Depending on what you’re trying to capture, it may make most of this obsolete.
Have you heard the official clip they posted for ‘Back to Hogwarts’ this year?
https://www.wizardingworld.com/chapters/listen-new-journeys-to-hogwarts-audio-experience
Hoping to see those JJ style potter/marvel movie intros in future releases, its what makes the edits unique.
Plus an added surround sound track will be a big benfit…
I was going to say they are already 5.1, but I just checked and you’re right.
I wouldn’t object to an AAC 5.1 track and it wouldn’t impact the files size too much.
Wasn’t there a problem exporting multi-channel sound from his editing software in surround though.
nl0428 said:
I didn’t know about the ADR line from Chamber of Secrets, but I already knew about the one from The Empire Strikes Back. I’m a bit confused that they kept that line in the extended edition, considering that Harry and Ron didn’t put on Crabbe and Goyle’s robes, and Hermione snuck out Slytherin robes from the laundry for them to wear.
The added line was to explain where the Slytherin robes they end up wearing came from. The scene with Hermione saying she stole some Slyntherin robes from the laundry was deleted. Whoever re-edited probably didn’t notice. Most people don’t.
But hey, they fixed a LOT of other errors from the ABC cut. Mouths out of sync to dialog, repeated shots, Harry flipping through the diary in the same direction more than once, etc. I’ll allow one bad line (and some improper music cues).
Yeah. I had avoided getting the official extended discs of SS and CoS since I thought they were the same crappy ABC edits.
On the advice of people here I got them and they are indeed more professional than what ABC/Disney cobbled together.
I think I took issue with a couple of music cues and the fact that in Chamber… they didn’t fix the overdub of Hermione, at dinner, telling Ron and Harry to put on Crabbe and Goyle’s robes.
The overdub was added to the theatrical cut to explain the Slytherin robes they wear later. Hermione saying she got the robes for them from the laundry is a deleted scene. Both shouldn’t be in the same cut of the film.
That’s right. I remember the elevator scene as well.
My understanding is the networks don’t get official extended cuts from the studio (except maybe in the case of 1 & 2 since there has now been a retail release). They only get the pieces if they want to cobble something together themselves.
It’s why there is slight differences between ABC/Freeform edits and Syfy/USA/E! versions.
ABC/Freeform’s edits were an amateur jobs. The official discs fix a lot of inconsistencies, audio sync issues, etc.
I’ve never compared 1:1 the discs to what Syfy is showing.
I’m pretty sure I saw the effects-less rabbit hunt from DH on Syfy, but I could have hallucinated that.
DM me if you want the JJPotter edits 😛 He may be gone, but his fan edits will survive!
Don’t do that. This is the EXACT reason why he’s gone.
Has anyone seen Peter Pan on Disney+ (if it’s there)? I’m curious how that looks compared to existing copies. Still looking to do some sort of restoration to the colors and oversharpening of the Limited Edition DVD.
Same question for Snow White. How does the Disney+ version look?
I never really cared for the Pixar film ‘Up’.
I realize it was nominated for 5 Academy Awards and won 2, but re-watching it tonight I realized what is wrong: The first 11 minutes.
The beginning is completely unnecessary and a real downer from which the movie never recovers. Cut it.
You’d start with a grumpy old man, living alone. Within the first few minutes of that you would easily deduce he lost his wife, you’d also see he is in danger of losing his house, to which he is obviously attached. It’s weighty enough and covers all the information needed.
Some of the opening scenes could be cut in later as flashbacks where needed to fill in backstory.
What we don’t need is to sit through his drab little life on fast forward and the sad conclusion of his relationship with his wife. It puts a cloud over the rest of the film.
I haven’t done a true fanedit in years… but what do you guys think?
Yeah, I never warmed up to Witch Hunt. Fred Ward was perfect for this role. I like Dennis Hopper, but he was so wrong for the part.
It also lost a lot of the fantasy/noir tone of the original.
Yup, get the Criterion. Looks like a winner.
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_123/the_great_escape_blu-ray.htm
Thank you for all the work you’ve done, and I completely understand. These things, unfortunately, happen. There are people that feel entitled and do crap like this.
I maintain the rule that anyone who asks me for one of my edits, but hasn’t been an OT member for at least a year and hasn’t posted a reasonable amount of comments to a couple threads in that time, does not get links.
Too many people find their way here from Google and sign up just to hit and run for some links.
The Splash digital alteration has had many articles in the past week. It’s really badly done for no good reason.
Lilo and Stitch looks like she’s hiding in an oven now, which seems worse to me.
I don’t know when the opening of Toy Story changed. That’s news to me. It could be with the new BD releases, since we know they made changes to Toy Story 2 as well around that time.
I definitely liked seeing it. Harry miming without the smoke was always so noticeable, especially since we see the effects of that candy later.
Was the puff of smoke new in the after Hogsmeade scene? I didn’t remember that.
While I think it should be more of a jet of smoke (from his ears as well?), it’s a real improvement.
Maybe time it later after Harry puts his hand up or is that harder to accomplish?
I did see that HMV already prints what looks like a theatrical cut DVD. And their details of the Special Edition are thin, but it is a 2 disc set.
It could be just bonus features.
Edit: Btw, there IS a hybrid edit of this already on 'spleen. Pretty nice work. Definitely a labor of love. Technically, the DVD source could have been handled better, but the editing is first rate.
It shows as an HMV Exclusive. They are a UK company, not Australian.
BUT, the PAL runtime for the extended cut is 100 minutes and if they gave a proper 24fps release it really would be 104 minutes instead of 98.
There’s so few details, it’s hard to tell, but good find.
It sounds like your video conversion wasn’t right, and probably why you have jagginess. The movie is hard interlaced and the fields occasionally go out of sync.
I’m a bit rusty and I’m on a cobbled together PC (not my usual one).
Using DGIndex is right. You need an AVISynth script like this:
loadplugin("…dgdecode.dll")
loadplugin("…tivtc.dll")
mpeg2source(“croc.d2v”)
tfm(d2v=“croc.d2v”)
assumefps(23.976) #NTSC Speed
spline36resize(720,480) #NTSC resolution
Then you can use DGPulldown to get soft telecine (23.976 -> 29.97).
For the audio, I’d use eac3to. A simple -slowdown option and you can go from ac3 right to ac3 in one step.
But as long as you’re using avisynth it give you an opportunity to try to adjust the black/white levels and colors if you want.
There are no subtitles, so that makes life easier, but if you want to put in the same chapter stops you’ll need to extract and convert them. Somewhere here I’ve got a guide for PAL to NTSC conversion of full discs.
New Criterion transfer coming May 12th. It might be what we’ve all been hoping for.
https://www.criterion.com/films/29149-the-great-escape
