Director

DVD-BOY said:

I was hoping you would speak about the sources you used, and how you created the project, but your previous response said it was too long to mention.

Well done for getting this project over the finishing line and released, because a lot of projects are announced but fail to materialize for one reason or another.

Thank you, this was not easy, and since either the 1997 projects are not finished and will never be, or the announcer is inactive, I spent a lot of money to actually get this done.

DVD-BOY said:

So what resolution are the mp4 files?

Was there anything else you wanted to ask?

G&G-Fan said:

Director said:

You can give me suggestions. I am not sure yet.

If you’re gonna put the Death Star near a planet, I’d recommend something like Coruscant or Geonosis. It’d be cool if it was a rather alien planet and not too Earth-like.

Thank you for the idea, I might as well actually make the Death Star near Coruscant.

DVD-BOY said:

So what resolution are the mp4 files?

They are currently 480p, because the AI and other services constantly mess up any attempt of upscaling.

DVD-BOY said:

So what is the source for this? You mentiom film prints, but the final file is a very small mp4 file.

Could you explain more about your workflow and the technical process?

How does this project compare to the other scans of 35mm Special Edition prints that already exist?

Can you please post some screenshots?

The files were converted to mp4 with resolution lowered since the original files were almost 200 GB each, they were not mp4 originally, but I made them since mp4 is the easiest format. And I have no much to say about it right now, but for example most scans are yellowish, especially during Greedo/Han scene, the frames are extremely yellowish, but for example in my version, it is corrected to look like it was in 1997. The technical process itself is too long to mention right here, but I am likely going to update it in the future, since I have to focus on 2 preservations and 1 fanedit.

If you have more questions that I did not answer here, ask.

G&G-Fan said:

Ok and what are the changes besides logos and a couple you have listed for ANH?

ANH is currently in production, it has changes I have not listed, but when I have time to add the changes to the list, I will add them.

Update: The original trilogy is currently in progress and will be ready soon.

Can I get the subtitle files?

For anyone who already got the files; Should I make a v2.0 in the future?

ImBateman said:

Hi everyone!

As the title suggests this is an HD reconstruction of the 1997 version of ROTJ. This is a project I’ve been intending to do for a while now and I finally have something that I can call watchable. Since there are two very well made reconstructions of the 97 versions of ANH and ESB (thanks to Harmy, Team Blu, and Adywan) I figured ROTJ needed a reconstruction done in some capacity!

**V3 update: V3 is now live, and is finally exactly how I like it, thanks to me switching to Davinci Resolve. Regrained, better color, and video synced up to the audio down to the last frame (v2 seemed to always be slightly out of sync). The “Return of the Jedi Visual Comparison” was used, so there are no post-97 changes in this version at all!

I used 5 sources for this project (updated for v3):

• 2019 Special Edition Blu Ray
• Max DNR version of 4k83 (to undo post 1997 changes)
• ROTJ LD upscale and multi-capture merge (thanks ZigZig and Rancor022/DarthPyro!)
• 2004 HDTV broadcast provided by schorman (for opening logos)
• althor’s LD capture (for reference and DTS audio, LD audio, subtitles, and chapters)

Extra things done:
*added a 35mm grain palette over 2019 BD, 2004 HDTV, and LD footage to blend in better with 4k83 footage
*color corrected a handful of 4k83 clips to blend in with surrounding scenes
*I did leave the color of the 2019 BD alone since it appears that they did use the 1997 versions as a color reference.

Video dimensions: 1920x1080p (cropped to Disney’s 2.39 aspect ratio), 23.976fps
File Size: 19.53gb mkv

PM me for a link and share some feedback here if you’d like. Thanks!

I highly doubt this person gives links anymore but if you want to see this film’s 1997 Special Edition like it was in theatres in 1997, check my preservation of that. The films are all available.

edit in 2025: didn’t think when writing this, that my 20 years late response would revive this thread.

The Special Editions are what most members grew up with, but not all members. The special editions were not that bad, but people insult them because after the release of the VHS/LaserDisc/DVD of the 1997 Special Edition, people realised the original versions will never be re-released again. (forget the 2006 bonus discs). And that is the reason why so many complain about the Special Editions, but sure, there are some who actually hate the special editions.

That guy with no name said:

Haarspalter said:

Hal 9000 said:

Why make this available only for a limited time?

Maybe he wants to pay homage to the 2006 GOUT DVD advertising? 😉

More like the '93 Laserdisc releases. “One Last Time” that was a huge red flag.

Btw, the One Last Time was the 1995 LaserDiscs.

PM me for the links.

The trailer is out now and the films will be fully available soon,

Hi editors and others. First I thought since these editions are so hated, I would release them only for 10 days but now that I have received many complains on PMs and here, I have decided that this will not be limited time only but will be available at all times.

timdiggerm said:

Hal 9000 said:

Why make this available only for a limited time?

This like Disney putting movies “in the vault” just to build hype & demand back in the day, only without the existing demand, reputation for quality, name recognition, etc.

Plus, anyone who receives the files can just distribute them as soon as he says it’s no longer available.

Yes, anyone can, but they should not say “I created this preservation…” , but this is only for a limited time since I could accidentally delete the mp4 files while emptying device space, but if you manage to download the mp4 files, I will not be demanding you to delete it.

That guy with no name said:

why is this in only 480p? and how can something be both stereo and 7.1 surround sound?
I’ve sent you the pm’s btw.

Some parts are stereo and some are surround, and it is 480p since the print is low-resolution and the AI messes up while up-scaling so I have no choice, plus it saves space.

Haarspalter said:

Hal 9000 said:

Why make this available only for a limited time?

Maybe he wants to pay homage to the 2006 GOUT DVD advertising? 😉

This has nothing to do with the 2006 bonus DVDs.

Hal 9000 said:

Why make this available only for a limited time?

Since there are so many preservations of the special edition trilogy, and also around 2 years, the mp4 files will become outdated and easily accidentally deleted.

Final masters of these restoration projects are being created. I will release them at some point. PM me for further details.

TEXT ON 22 JULY 2025

Hello. This is a project to restore the 1997 versions of the SW films. There were previews but due to arguments, I deleted them. You can get this for free, just PM me and ask. just make sure you own at least one official release, it does not matter is it physical or digital, but it is recommended to own one. I have coloured these the way they looked like in 1997.

SOURCES

the sources of this preservation are clear, but there were, I am unsure if still are, debates of this.

I used only one source for each movie. The first movie’s source comes from a 1997 print. seemingly the same master was used for 4K97-4, but I am not sure, the scrathes are similar to 4K97-4 but I am not sure is it the same master.

The second movie: I used a print from 1998. It has colours in the other side of the image, but I am once again not sure why.

The third movie: it has rounded corners, I am not sure why, but some debated it was from 4K97, which it is not from.

Copyright C / © 1997 Lucasfilm Ltd & 20th Century Studios.

G&G-Fan said:

Director said:

I am going to make changes mostly to the vfx but I can change some of the canon by example adding a StarWars planet near the Death Star etc.

A what planet?

You can give me suggestions. I am not sure yet.

ifjg said:

How are you planning on having a 50fps intro while the rest of the movie is in 24fps without having jerky playback?

I am not planning to have a 50 fps intro, the full movie will be rendered as a stable 24fps, but the intro itself is 50 fps right now, but when I export the project as mp4, the full movie (including the intro) will be made 24 fps.

Skybatman said:

are u gonna makes changes on the story or just vfx

I am going to make changes mostly to the vfx but I can change some of the canon by example adding a StarWars planet near the Death Star etc.

Hello. This project was supposed to be ready already on September 12, 2024. But due to the lack of time, I had to delay it to 19th day of September, but that also was too little. And eventually the entire project entered a pause. The last time I did any major things to this edit was around May 2024 when I started this project, it had a OT.com post.

CURRENT SITUATION AND BACKGROUND

I started working on this on May 2024, and I used the 2019 Disney edition as the master, but then it took more space than my device could handle, so it was paused until August. I used a new master, but due to the delays, it was paused again.

Now, as of January 2025, I will restart this project. I recently finished the best version for my 1997 preservation, and I have a device which has double the amount of storage the old one had, so I set 20 Gigabytes to be the absolute maximum of this project, and will tend to use only about 10GB. I will use the 2019 Disney editions and reconstruct the 1997 editions using those. The 1997 editions I restored are not usable as the master of this project due to their 1997 quality, so I will reconstruct those using the 2019 master. Many of you will probably ask why can’t I just use 4K97 as the master, and the answer is that it takes too much space, and its colours are difficult to correct, not to mention the German audio in 4K97_V. And the other possible source would be ImBateman’s reconstruction, but ImBateman is not active or sharing the links, and MySpleen torrents have a low amount of seeders, so I will have to reconstruct them myself. I will use the least space-taking 4K77, 4K80 & 4K83 scans to replace changes made after 1997. I will also use the lowest space taking but highest quality clip of Jabba in ANH. I will then colourcorrect these to my liking. I will export the film scans as 720p 24fps. I will then use those 720p scans as the master of my fanedit. So now I will just have to make the changes. I will upload the 1997 reconstructed master somewhere private for myself and delete it from my device, but I will not share it, because it is only used for this fanedit. But unless many of you want to use it, I can share. The previosly mentioned process will start sooner or later.

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