Dek Rollins

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

It might be simpler to retitle this thread from “Ranking the Star Wars Films” to “The Lord Haseo’s it’s all about me thread”? Probably a bad idea I know, so let’s try actually discussing the thread topic for a change.

I don’t remember saying “You have to agree with me” but if me not kissing people’s feet just because they have an obscure opinion is me being self centered then I repeat. Sue me.

Also I’ve fucking tried to discuss the film/s and all these conversations end with “Well that’s just my opinion so fuck off” whether I’m in them or not.

I don’t think you understand, the original purpose for this threads existence was to let people state their OPINIONS about the rankings of the Star Wars films and to possibly sprout discussion about said opinions. And “not kissing peoples feet” doesn’t mean telling someone their opinions are wrong “because I said so” without giving any reasoning.

OH! OH! OH! I know!
This editor has markdown syndrome.
Wait… that means I have markdown syndrome…

Lord Haseo said:

Dek Rollins said:

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Dek Rollins said:

4. The Holiday Special
5. The Force Awakens

Really? ‘The Holiday Special’ is so bad it’s like a physical and mental act of shear endurance and will-power to sit through the thing. It’s not even so bad it’s good in an ironic way. At least TFA had some explosions, some bright coloured lights and not even one long, boring and dry instructional video about the proper operation of a entirely fictional electronic device.

Dude…it’s obvious hyperbole lol

Have you seen some of the other posts in this thread? Nothing here can be described as obvious hyperbole…at least from the point of view of those posting it.

The Holiday Special is a different kind of monster though…

I knew there would be talk about that one, and I sort of did it as a joke, but I’m also kind of serious, which is why I actually did it. When I saw TFA, nothing struck me with any positive thought about what I just saw. The first thing I did when the credits started was begin thinking about how the whole plot was just Star Wars made worse, and none of what was happening at any time made me feel any emotion for the scene. The Holiday Special has a Riff Tracks appeal, and I generally found its cheese more entertaining than TFA. It’s just an unoriginal modern blockbuster that didn’t have anything in it that felt like Star Wars to me. Also realize that I don’t like any of those and just put them in so someone wouldn’t ask me to finish my list and face the truth.
Frink, I respect you and your opinions, and your contribution to this site. Your posts make me laugh on a daily basis I’m sure. But, I just don’t agree with you and some others about how “TFA nailed it” and all that.

Good for you I guess.

Thankyou, and if you enjoy TFA, good for you, I don’t want to ruin that for you. I was just explaining myself since I’m sure so many people would be unable to understand my logic. The point was not saying THS was good, just more enjoyable to watch for myself than TFA was.

swagmasta69 said:

George had the broadstrokes of the PT laid out by the end of making the OT. (Lava planet, ROTJ Vader seeming much more like Anakin Skywalker from the prequels in dialogue and characterization, etc.)

Now, I’m not sure what your getting at with this sentence. Are you one of those people that think he had planned for the PT to exist the whole time? For those that use “that’s why he called them Episodes V and VI” as an excuse to think this, that is not why he originally used the episode numbers. He used them in yet another way to recreate the feel of coming into a theater to see some Flash Gordon serials, and you just came in the middle of the story. And ROTJ Vader wasn’t any closer to PT Annie than in the first two.

Lord Haseo said:

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Dek Rollins said:

4. The Holiday Special
5. The Force Awakens

Really? ‘The Holiday Special’ is so bad it’s like a physical and mental act of shear endurance and will-power to sit through the thing. It’s not even so bad it’s good in an ironic way. At least TFA had some explosions, some bright coloured lights and not even one long, boring and dry instructional video about the proper operation of a entirely fictional electronic device.

Dude…it’s obvious hyperbole lol

Have you seen some of the other posts in this thread? Nothing here can be described as obvious hyperbole…at least from the point of view of those posting it.

The Holiday Special is a different kind of monster though…

I knew there would be talk about that one, and I sort of did it as a joke, but I’m also kind of serious, which is why I actually did it. When I saw TFA, nothing struck me with any positive thought about what I just saw. The first thing I did when the credits started was begin thinking about how the whole plot was just Star Wars made worse, and none of what was happening at any time made me feel any emotion for the scene. The Holiday Special has a Riff Tracks appeal, and I generally found its cheese more entertaining than TFA. It’s just an unoriginal modern blockbuster that didn’t have anything in it that felt like Star Wars to me. Also realize that I don’t like any of those and just put them in so someone wouldn’t ask me to finish my list and face the truth.
Frink, I respect you and your opinions, and your contribution to this site. Your posts make me laugh on a daily basis I’m sure. But, I just don’t agree with you and some others about how “TFA nailed it” and all that.

All of KK’s regrades are on MySpleen.

This would have to be my personal list:

1. Star Wars / The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Empire Strikes Back / Star Wars
3. Return of the Jedi

For the sake of completion I will now continue, though I do not consider these in my own personal “canon”.
See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lAVUMiefLs (3:33-4:25)

4. The Holiday Special
5. The Force Awakens
6. The Phantom Menace
7. The Battle For Endor
8. Revenge of the Sith
9. Attack of the Clones
10. The Clone Wars (2009)

If there are any films that I forgot to include, I apologize.

DrCrowTStarwarsreborn said:

the mistake the writers of the AU made a lot of the time

Someone wrote Australia?

I’m sorry but when I saw the pictures in that page, with the lightsaber and all, this was my immediate internal thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4ayBHTES0&feature=youtu.be&t=125s

imperialscum said:

There is just too much stuff I hate about EU to state them. The other thread is more convenient for as stating things I like is easier.

Agreed. Though, there really isn’t anything I “like” about the EU off the top of my head, so I’m going to list my biggest problems (and “official canon” is guilty of some of these too).

• Everything is stereotyped (not like TPM is racist stuff, and it’s not, you are for thinking it if you did)
  Hutts are all crime lords, or are at least in the business. Also, all hutts are fat.
  Rodians are all bounty hunters, or strive to be such.

• Everything that happened in the films is either contradicted, or completely underwhelmed/unnecessary by the EU. More superlasers. More giant Star Destroyers (yes, I remember Han’s line from ROTJ). More superlasers on more giant Star Destroyers.

• It is almost completely created by bad writers, who can’t think of imaginative plots or characters.
  I’m especially fond of one great writer who probably has the worst sense of scale in all the human race. According to this person’s math, there are ~3 clone troopers per republic planet, and are out numbered by the droid army by ~4 trillion:~3 million. Seriously. 3 million clones.

DuracellEnergizer said:

swagmasta69 said:

I actually think that the AOTC romance is the most authentic and unguarded romance in cinema,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb8fWUUXeKM

My personal favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4ayBHTES0&feature=youtu.be&t=125s

I just clicked on the links to all three 16mm prints on ebay and realized that I looked at all of those a week or so ago and then totally forgot about them.

TV’s Frink said:

Their margin is pretty large already and I’m reasonably sure it’s due to their contribution. And I’m afforded a similar margin so I stopped complaining.

Unfortunately the cease fire has been violated, so here we are.

That’s what I was trying to say, not that their margin should be larger than it is now (perhaps it should even be smaller), but that their contribution makes up for it in my mind. Oh, and… what’s this cease fire?

EDIT: I think I figured out what cease fire ment. 😃

TV’s Frink said:

Dek Rollins said:

I’ve never understood how so many people can join this site without reading the rules. It’s not like the three page license agreement when you install a program. It’s what the site is built around. Not reading the rules and/or not following them is insulting to the people who spend time and effort on projects like this, and to others who support them. Sorry for the rant.

To be fair, the people running the account that this thread is centered around don’t heed the rules either.

Fair point. I would let their margin be larger for being such large contributors, but you are correct.

I’ve never understood how so many people can join this site without reading the rules. It’s not like the three page license agreement when you install a program. It’s what the site is built around. Not reading the rules and/or not following them is insulting to the people who spend time and effort on projects like this, and to others who support them. Sorry for the rant.

Thanks!

Williarob said:

Just for fun, I created a quick tutorial demonstrating some of the ways you can quickly fix some of the issues with the Grindhouse release:

http://www.thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2016/01/18/How-to-clean-up-Team-Negative-Ones-Grindhouse-Empire-Strikes-Back

The link just sent me to the homepage. Not the grindhouse post.

Do not worry. That smiley will find it’s destiny eventually, and I always like a good misunderstanding every once in a while. Quite entertaining at times.

I was replying to timemeddler, not you, Spaced Ranger. I know you wrote a lot of this thread. If timemeddler had read the rest of the thread, he would have known why his comment was useless to the topic, being that you already knew about the blu-ray, and the fact that it’s really crappy.

Spaced Ranger said:

Dek Rollins said:
Did you even read the rest of the thread?

(You should know that if you had read the rest of the thread.)

You lost me there.

timemeddler said:

Uh, they’re already on bluray.

Did you even read the rest of the thread?

Haha! I think TN1 would just die if one of there projects turned out like Predator Ultimate.

althor1138 said:

EDIT: To the people who don’t like grain here’s a LPT. If you start looking at the grain that’s all you are going to see. Try to just watch the movie. The grain is actually a good thing imo.

I love film grain. I love to look at the film grain. When I see a release where I can’t see the grain variation on the image, I just can’t stand it. Sadly, that’s like, most official BDs of most of the movies that I like (besides the big 4k restoration jobs such as Good Bad Ugly, Terminator etc.), but, that’s what the majority buyer wants, crystal clean image with no grain whatsoever.

I’d definitely like a release of TN1’s matched to IB Tech colors. I think that would be my prefered version.

EDIT: I mean of TN1’s finalized release. There wouldn’t be much point if the new release needs to be corrected again, right?

Thank the Lord! And Team Negative1 for so many years of hard work on this wonderful project. I can hardly hold myself back, but I think I’ll have to wait out the BD ISO release. It’ll be more refined, and I’d probably just delete the first download to save space once it comes out, anyway.