I think deepfakes are able to replace mouth movements apparently.

Valheru_84 said:

So a supposed insider at TROS production has apparently spilled the beans on a heap of behind the scenes chaos where it basically seems that JJ was creatively hobbled and the film fiddled with by corporates behind his back to the point he apparently yelled in one meeting that the movie might as well say “directed and written by Lucasfilm”. I don’t think the film he wanted to make would still be one I would enjoy or accept but this just seems like more credence to how poorly the whole DT has been managed and planned (or not planned at all):

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

Oof, that drama really is…
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(Honestly, I’m so overwhelmed after reading that post that I cant find the right way to express my thoughts on it, maybe some other time.)

Pickle2503 said:

HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONEEEEE

Ah yes, this line delivered by Anakin in the 35mm version was omitted in the digital release.

Can I get a PM of this?

I suggest you color-correct your Blu-ray source to remove the magenta and purple-violet tones, or if you feel unmotivated, probably use the Disney+ versions.

Interesting tidbit: While I was scrolling through r/starwarsleaks, I read a thread regarding the death scene of Ben, in which it points out numerous inconsistencies in the shots (i.e Rey clearly delivering dialogue that have been cut out) that suggest that they originally were planning to have a completely “different ending” in which Ben Solo could’ve lived.

Link to reddit thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/eetirx/the_scene_where_ben_dies_is_actually_reversed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Link to original twitter post pointing out the isses:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Centennial_2/status/1209242571639267328

JEDIT: Here is the OP of the Reddit post’s idea of the actual sequencing of this scene:
“I think that the right sequence in this scene is: he comes back from the pit, heals Rey, lies down due to exhaustion, she wakes up, pulls him up, they do talks, he laughs and then they kiss, implying that they both would’ve survived.”

It seems as if the entire forum members have gone into depression, some waving their white flags at Disney, others in denial about how they really want to love and accept this trilogy, and others just outright planning an armada against The Mouse.

Well, predicition for WW is about $180m I guess.

Just came back from watching TROS, and man oh man what a movie to process. So far I feel the film is trying to play safe, adding fanservice, nostalgic cues, and trying to adress the issues they think the fans didnt like about the last movie. Although I really liked the film, (a bit moreso than TFA!) I still felt it had some flaws.

Firstly, it’s pacing. It felt too much was going on within the First act, going between Ben and Rey back and fourth, force connections, space-indian festivals, so much was going on. Although I like crazy adventurous openings, it felt too crazy.

Fortunately it slowed down a bit when we then realize about the heritage of Rey and the movie, although seems to be a three-hour movie cut down extensively, it still gave us room to settle down a little bit and take in before we go into the final battle.

Thirdly, the characters. Although I really do enjoy how dynamic the trio are, playing the game of “where-did-you-come-from?”, The new characters here, like Lando’s implied daughter, and one-off helmet girl didn’t really get to be fully fleshed out in the movie and serve as cardboard stands.

Also, Luke’s terrible wig.

Although these are some issues I found, I think a way to actually make sense of the movie, which is to hopefully get an extended cut for the bluray realize to fully realize the cut-down action, missed opportunities and sudden retcons seen in the film.

Can you try and remaster the drive-by shot in A New Hope of the speeder going to the cantina (right after the “these are not the droids your looking for” scene in the theatrical cut, pre-SE) without the CGI creature?

Rey, Poe and Finn go on a time heist to collect the artifiacts and join them together to help bring back every character (alive or dead) to fight against Palpatine coming out from portals and-

wait wrong movie…

Hal 9000 said:

I like it, but I agree that there’s no visible debris, which would make it better. The fire seems to look like a miniature has been blown up.

Could you break down what elements (original and new) you used? I’m interested in this shot and would like to just see if it could be improved further.

Well the only thing original is the starfield. I added the glow and then the explosion after it. I might have to use Despecialized since the SE has that added glow I couldn’t remove.

RogueLeader said:

I Ike it! I think it works better as an almost blinding light rather a very clear, properly exposed explosion. I did notice some flickering on the bottom a little.

The flickering is from an encoding issue, otherwise, the only thing left is the debris of what remains of Alderaan.

Speaking of praxis rings on explosions, I made a edit for my new A New Hope fanedit that has a new explosion for Alderaan that doesn’t look “too modern” or “stitched from two seperate explosions” like in the theatrical, and no praxis rings.

https://streamable.com/3m8fb

Here’s a look at the new Alderaan Destruction scene, without a praxis ring! I tried to keep it somewhat faithful to the SE version of the scene, since the theatrical had two seperate explosions that looked really jarring.

LINK:
https://streamable.com/3m8fb

Sorry for necrobumping but it’s been 2 years and I still havent found these anywhere, even in the spleener. If anyone has the edits of this (ANH, ESB and ROTJ), please shoot a PM, cheers!

Yea, it’d be pretty weird having a “CGIless” PT, It’ll just be guys in a green screen.

Ok, so heres a small snippet of the new “enhanced” scene of the speeder traveling towards the cantina (directly after the mind-trick scene in the OUT), with a new SE-ish shadow underneath the speeder while retaining the bottom half of the speeder seen in the theatrical.

This scene is still W.I.P. (moreso a proof of concept), and there are tons of things that need fixing (trying to clean up and stabilize the 4k77 source, color-correction) and I am not particularly good in doing such thing (I’m a first-timer) so any VFX help with this scene is greatly appreciated!

https://streamable.com/br7au

UPDATE: This project isn’t dead, however things are going by very slowly as of the moment due to personal matters.

However, I have been slowly developing this and so far have created a very, very rough rough-cut of the final film, using Neverar’s Technicolor Recreation as a base.

I am also doing preliminary VFX work for the infamous “139 frames” scene of the speeder going to the cantina, I might post a snippet of that soon.

Extremely random thought, I wonder if the “A long time ago…” title card in the theatrical release of A New Hope actually looked the way it is, faded and old-looking.

13las said:

Unfortunately I don’t have any secret sources or anything exciting like that. But hopefully I can dig up something you haven’t seen before!

I see you used a 35mm print of the 1997 SE for your source in your comparison.

oojason said:

‘STAR WARS CHANGES (Part 1 of 4) — A New Hope’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn2eD-RI-dc - from the ‘Original Thrillogy’ youtube channel
 

I haven’t had a chance to watch all of it yet - though looks promising going on the first 4-5 minutes…

(Is it by one of us from here?)
 

Hmmm… That sure seems interesting.

I wonder if the 1997 SE shown in the comparison is 35mm, it sure has superior quality from any other publicly available version of the 1997 SEs, possibly a privately-owned 35mm scan?

Firstly, I wont be using the Alderaan explosion from Adywan’s due to its dated effects.
Same goes for the Darth Vader and Obi Wan sequence, the effects and CGIness of that scene sticks out like a sore thumb in comparison to the rest of the shots

STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE - DSG SPECIAL EDITION

(Name Tentative, please suggest below!)

(The “DSG” stands for Dat_SW_Guy)

This is essentially an envisioned “alternate Special Edition”, a more conservative, purist interpretation within the style of Adywan’s Revisited and @That Guy With No Name’s Devastator Edition in hopes of being a visually consistent and cohesive version of the film. This cut leans towards the theatrical version, whilst keeping some SE changes, or fixing dated shots, that will hopefully fit more in line with the aesthetic of the film, being non-intrusive both visually and narratively.

TLDR: It’s sort of a “What if the CGI and VFX in the 97 SE was more restrained to actually improving shots instead of adding unnecessary things?”

Overall, the goal is to create an immersive and seamless experience without being thrown off by a CGI Ronto walking into frame, while also enjoying the new changes that shaped some of the movie for the better.

The project’s main source is from @oohteedee’s D+77 2.4 project; however, certain SE changes are retained using his 2019 SE UHD Regrade throughout the edit. A full list of other sources are provided below:

• Adywan’s 2018 Regrade of ANH
• @That Guy With No Name’s ANH Devastator version for some shots.
• SkyMaster’s 4K77 Beta 2 for some OOT shots

Here are some other sources I used to create this edit:

• Elements from @Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition
• A matte painting from @Aggelw
• Certain shots of Adywan’s ANH:RHD he provided
• VFX work from Sky_ (138 speeder shot)

The changelog has been revamped to update the sources; however, these are subject to change as I might add more in the future.

Overall Changes (as of 7/10/2025)

• All spaceship shots now derive from the Special Edition, as the shots are more dynamic, yet the CGI still looks “appropriate” (somewhat like 90’s movies and their CGI, which is basically the SE).

• Most of the theatrical matte paintings (Starry Sandcrawler sky, Falcon in the Death Star Hangar, Rebel Base Hangar, Award Ceremony audience, etc.) are replaced with their SE versions, save for a few mentioned which were redone.

• Alderaan has a new explosion that matches what a 1997 version of the shot would look like; however, all other planet explosions in the film have been recolored to a modern yellowish hue or redone for visual consistency.

• Careful yet extensive compositing and visual effects were used to remove and revise excess SE elements, such as extra buildings in the Mos Eisley sequences, the 138-speeder-shot, and outdated texturing of CGI and miniature elements (the entry shot into Mos Eisley, Ben’s Hut).

• Other quality-of-life and continuity-oriented visual effects are added, mimicking the Revisited and Devastator changes, such as removing the bushes at the Homestead and removing the Jawa crew-member.

• The main audio mix of the edit derives from D+77, which itself derives from @hairy_hen’s theatrical reconstruction mix (if I’m not mistaken); however, some aspects of the audio are lifted from the SE mix (such as the Dewback sound effects and 1997 edits), which are integrated into the main mix.

Cut List (as of 7/10/2025)

This is not a “locked” and final cut list, as this is subject to change to add more changes.

• The opening titles are from the Special Edition, although the LFL logo is retimed to match the theatrical version.

• The “a long time ago” text is from the theatrical version.

• The crawl is the Special Edition.

• The gaffer tape holding the trooper’s armor in the scene of Leia and Vader has been removed.

• R2 now retracts his arm before they both enter into the escape pod.

• The escape pod has been recolored blue to match the earlier shots.

• The escape pod will now appear to go into the planet and burn into the atmosphere. (Inspired by ANH Revisited)

• The canyon matte from R2-D2 is from the Special Edition.

• The wide shot of R2 being loaded in the Sandcrawler is a modified version of the Special Edition to have extra planets.

• The next shot of the Sandcrawler driving at night and the wipe to the “Look sir, Droids!” scene will retain their SE elements but has been edited to sync with the theatrical version. (From Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition)

• The establishing wide shot of the homestead is from the Special Edition.

• No bushes during the shot of Luke talking to Aunt Beru.

• Added vaporators in the distance to match the SE establishing shot.

• Fixed continuity error of R5-D4 showing up behind R2-D2 immediately after he explodes.

• The Binary Sunset scene is from the Special Edition.

• Artoo isn’t hiding behind CGI rocks.

• Ben’s Hut SE matte painting has been updated to look less painterly and more realistic looking.

• That matte painting shot of Mos Eisley and the establishing shot of the Speeder entering Mos Eisley is from the Special Edition, although the latter is sourced from the 2011 BD as the 2019 DNR’ed away the details. Also, I removed some womprats in that shot and improved the texture of the buildings.

• The Mos Eisley sequences have now been re-cut in the style of Hal9000’s version for better pacing.

• The CGI buildings in the SE Mos Eisley scenes have been greatly reduced using VFX to match the original on-set shoot in Tunisia, allowing for better continuity throughout the whole sequence.

• The 138-frame landspeeder shot has been redone to remove the Ronto and the hand-drawn shadow underneath while retaining the SE level of quality.

• The wide shot of the cantina has now been replaced with an updated matte, with the correct time of day.

• The “I don’t like the look of this” shot removes the Dewback to the left of the frame, while keeping the Dewback next to the Cantina (thanks to TGWNN for this!).

• Greedo has a new flash frame before he is shot that has accurate lighting consistent with Han’s flash frame.

• The Jabba scenes are removed using an iris wipe transition instead of the fade used in the theatrical cut to maintain consistent quality within the shots.

• The Millennium Falcon escape is from the Special Edition.

• Alderaan has a new explosion shot that somewhat makes it better than the 1997 version but without the praxis ring, composited by yours truly.

• All shots of the Millennium Falcon in the Death Star are from the Special Edition.

• The censored scenes of the Imperial officers getting shot are reverted.

• Vader walking through the hallway has been reverted to the theatrical version to remove the weird tracking and power-windows.

• The prison block set corridor extension is from the Special Edition.

• The Dianoga is reverted back to its theatrical version.

• The Aurebesh text on the tractor beam is from the Special Edition.

• All shots of the Millennium Falcon flying and heading to Yavin are from the Special Edition.

• The one shot of 3PO in the Falcon hallway before it explodes during the TIE Battle is replaced with the 2011 BD as the 2019 UHD BD is heavily DNR’ed.

• The Yavin Rebel Base exterior matte is from the Special Edition.

• There is one shot of the X-Wings headed to the Death Star where Yavin is clearly within the line of fire to the Death Star; this has been removed, thanks to Adywan for the files!

• Everything from the Battle of Yavin is from the Special Edition.

• The Death Star explosion is from the Special Edition but has been modified to match the new Alderaan explosion.

• The matte painting during the Award Ceremony is from the Special Edition.

Audio Changes (as of 7/10/2025)

• The 1997 mix of the Mos Eisley soundtrack has been reinstated, yet shortened to match the cuts.

• Reinstated the CGI Dewback sound effect outside the cantina, but added one sound effect that prompts Luke to look over to the cantina.

• “Blast it Biggs” will now be “Blast it Wedge” (Lifted from Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition).

• Luke will be heard saying “Biggs, Biggs!” in the radio (Lifted from Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition).

Future Changes (as of 7/10/2025)

• Smoothening out the jumpcuts and transitions, especially the lightsaber transitions.

• Extra VFX shots, flipped shots for continuity and quality-of-life purposes (like spinning escape pod, fixing stormtrooper stance, etc.).

• Better Tatooine matte paintings.

• More dynamic Falcon scenes, such as the Falcon escape from Tatooine, and a better Falcon v. TIE fighter chase sequence, ala Revisited.

• A more lively Battle of Yavin sequence with some shots of the red planet in the background.

• Having all the blasters recomposited to be more lively.

• Add lighting to the blaster fire to make it composite with the rest of the shot around it.

• Making R2-D2’s lights flicker red and blue.

IlFanEditore said:

I still can’t consider it as bad… I find it more in line with the PT and ST.
Anyway, you guys are surely more expert than I am.

What do you think about this?
http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/DLGZWNNX

Thats pretty good! Although I think its leaning more into saturated magenta, which is commonly what the Blu-Rays have. I suggest shifting the colors into a “balanced” version.

IlFanEditore said:

Frame comparisons.

TATOOINE

Sorry if I may seem blunt, but that color grading looks bad in all honesty.