Where can I get the deleted scens on Rizlers book for the OT?

Force-Abel said:

On the coming novelization of ‘The Rise Of Skywalker’, by author Rae Carson:-

“just gonna shamelessly take this moment to mention that if the #TheRiseOfSkywalker film included everything in the novelization, it would definitely be at least 3 hours long”

^ https://twitter.com/raecarson/status/1212810807009873926
 

The book will be available from March 3rd - https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Skywalker-Expanded-Star-Wars/dp/0593128400

That tweet kind-of confirms the reddit leaks in regards to the insider speaking about how Disney screwed up JJ’s original 3-hour cut. Then again, it’s a rumour.

I think deepfakes are able to replace mouth movements apparently.

Valheru_84 said:

So a supposed insider at TROS production has apparently spilled the beans on a heap of behind the scenes chaos where it basically seems that JJ was creatively hobbled and the film fiddled with by corporates behind his back to the point he apparently yelled in one meeting that the movie might as well say “directed and written by Lucasfilm”. I don’t think the film he wanted to make would still be one I would enjoy or accept but this just seems like more credence to how poorly the whole DT has been managed and planned (or not planned at all):

https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/eisnd8/heres_what_ive_been_told_from_a_source_that/

Oof, that drama really is…
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Saltier than Crait
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(Honestly, I’m so overwhelmed after reading that post that I cant find the right way to express my thoughts on it, maybe some other time.)

Pickle2503 said:

HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYONEEEEE

Ah yes, this line delivered by Anakin in the 35mm version was omitted in the digital release.

Can I get a PM of this?

I suggest you color-correct your Blu-ray source to remove the magenta and purple-violet tones, or if you feel unmotivated, probably use the Disney+ versions.

Interesting tidbit: While I was scrolling through r/starwarsleaks, I read a thread regarding the death scene of Ben, in which it points out numerous inconsistencies in the shots (i.e Rey clearly delivering dialogue that have been cut out) that suggest that they originally were planning to have a completely “different ending” in which Ben Solo could’ve lived.

Link to reddit thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/eetirx/the_scene_where_ben_dies_is_actually_reversed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Link to original twitter post pointing out the isses:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Centennial_2/status/1209242571639267328

JEDIT: Here is the OP of the Reddit post’s idea of the actual sequencing of this scene:
“I think that the right sequence in this scene is: he comes back from the pit, heals Rey, lies down due to exhaustion, she wakes up, pulls him up, they do talks, he laughs and then they kiss, implying that they both would’ve survived.”

It seems as if the entire forum members have gone into depression, some waving their white flags at Disney, others in denial about how they really want to love and accept this trilogy, and others just outright planning an armada against The Mouse.

Well, predicition for WW is about $180m I guess.

Just came back from watching TROS, and man oh man what a movie to process. So far I feel the film is trying to play safe, adding fanservice, nostalgic cues, and trying to adress the issues they think the fans didnt like about the last movie. Although I really liked the film, (a bit moreso than TFA!) I still felt it had some flaws.

Firstly, it’s pacing. It felt too much was going on within the First act, going between Ben and Rey back and fourth, force connections, space-indian festivals, so much was going on. Although I like crazy adventurous openings, it felt too crazy.

Fortunately it slowed down a bit when we then realize about the heritage of Rey and the movie, although seems to be a three-hour movie cut down extensively, it still gave us room to settle down a little bit and take in before we go into the final battle.

Thirdly, the characters. Although I really do enjoy how dynamic the trio are, playing the game of “where-did-you-come-from?”, The new characters here, like Lando’s implied daughter, and one-off helmet girl didn’t really get to be fully fleshed out in the movie and serve as cardboard stands.

Also, Luke’s terrible wig.

Although these are some issues I found, I think a way to actually make sense of the movie, which is to hopefully get an extended cut for the bluray realize to fully realize the cut-down action, missed opportunities and sudden retcons seen in the film.

Can you try and remaster the drive-by shot in A New Hope of the speeder going to the cantina (right after the “these are not the droids your looking for” scene in the theatrical cut, pre-SE) without the CGI creature?

Rey, Poe and Finn go on a time heist to collect the artifiacts and join them together to help bring back every character (alive or dead) to fight against Palpatine coming out from portals and-

wait wrong movie…

Hal 9000 said:

I like it, but I agree that there’s no visible debris, which would make it better. The fire seems to look like a miniature has been blown up.

Could you break down what elements (original and new) you used? I’m interested in this shot and would like to just see if it could be improved further.

Well the only thing original is the starfield. I added the glow and then the explosion after it. I might have to use Despecialized since the SE has that added glow I couldn’t remove.

RogueLeader said:

I Ike it! I think it works better as an almost blinding light rather a very clear, properly exposed explosion. I did notice some flickering on the bottom a little.

The flickering is from an encoding issue, otherwise, the only thing left is the debris of what remains of Alderaan.

Speaking of praxis rings on explosions, I made a edit for my new A New Hope fanedit that has a new explosion for Alderaan that doesn’t look “too modern” or “stitched from two seperate explosions” like in the theatrical, and no praxis rings.

https://streamable.com/3m8fb

Here’s a look at the new Alderaan Destruction scene, without a praxis ring! I tried to keep it somewhat faithful to the SE version of the scene, since the theatrical had two seperate explosions that looked really jarring.

LINK:
https://streamable.com/3m8fb

Sorry for necrobumping but it’s been 2 years and I still havent found these anywhere, even in the spleener. If anyone has the edits of this (ANH, ESB and ROTJ), please shoot a PM, cheers!

Yea, it’d be pretty weird having a “CGIless” PT, It’ll just be guys in a green screen.

Ok, so heres a small snippet of the new “enhanced” scene of the speeder traveling towards the cantina (directly after the mind-trick scene in the OUT), with a new SE-ish shadow underneath the speeder while retaining the bottom half of the speeder seen in the theatrical.

This scene is still W.I.P. (moreso a proof of concept), and there are tons of things that need fixing (trying to clean up and stabilize the 4k77 source, color-correction) and I am not particularly good in doing such thing (I’m a first-timer) so any VFX help with this scene is greatly appreciated!

https://streamable.com/br7au

UPDATE: This project isn’t dead, however things are going by very slowly as of the moment due to personal matters.

However, I have been slowly developing this and so far have created a very, very rough rough-cut of the final film, using Neverar’s Technicolor Recreation as a base.

I am also doing preliminary VFX work for the infamous “139 frames” scene of the speeder going to the cantina, I might post a snippet of that soon.

Extremely random thought, I wonder if the “A long time ago…” title card in the theatrical release of A New Hope actually looked the way it is, faded and old-looking.

13las said:

Unfortunately I don’t have any secret sources or anything exciting like that. But hopefully I can dig up something you haven’t seen before!

I see you used a 35mm print of the 1997 SE for your source in your comparison.

oojason said:

‘STAR WARS CHANGES (Part 1 of 4) — A New Hope’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn2eD-RI-dc - from the ‘Original Thrillogy’ youtube channel
 

I haven’t had a chance to watch all of it yet - though looks promising going on the first 4-5 minutes…

(Is it by one of us from here?)
 

Hmmm… That sure seems interesting.

I wonder if the 1997 SE shown in the comparison is 35mm, it sure has superior quality from any other publicly available version of the 1997 SEs, possibly a privately-owned 35mm scan?

Firstly, I wont be using the Alderaan explosion from Adywan’s due to its dated effects.
Same goes for the Darth Vader and Obi Wan sequence, the effects and CGIness of that scene sticks out like a sore thumb in comparison to the rest of the shots

STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE - DSG SPECIAL EDITION

(The “DSG” stands for Dat_SW_Guy)

This is essentially an envisioned “alternate Special Edition” in hopes of being a visually consistent, and cohesive version of the film. This cut leans towards the theatrical version, whilst keeping some SE changes, or fixing dated shots, that will hopefully fit more in line with the aesthetic of the film, being non-intrusive both visually and narratively.

TLDR, its sort of a “What if the CGI and VFX in the 97 SE was more restrained to actually improving shots instead of adding unnecesary things?”

Overall, the goal is to create an immersive and seamless experience without being thrown off by a CGI Ronto walking into frame, while also enjoying the new changes that shaped some of the movie for the better.

The project’s main source is from @oohteedee’s D+77 2.3 (theatrical reconstruction) project, however certain SE changes are retained using his 2019 SE UHD Regrade throughout the edit. A full list of other sources are provided below:

• 1080p AI upscale of @Adywan’s A New Hope Revisited provided by @Octorox
• Adywan’s 2018 Regrade of ANH
• @That guy with no name’s ANH Devastator version
• elements from @Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition
• a matte painting from @Aggelw
• replacement shot for a CGI Ronto error provided by @Adywan
• Voice over work by @RyanGoldenVO to replace one line from Vader
• VFX work from Sky_ (138 speeder shot) and from yours truly

The changelog has been revamped to update the sources, however these are subject to change as I might add more in the future.

Sample videos showing some the changes:
Alderaan Explosion - https://streamable.com/ut567t
Mos Eisley Recut - https://vimeo.com/628306487
Death Star Explosion V2 - https://streamable.com/2stju2
Vader One-line Redub - https://streamable.com/zuoraq

OVERALL CHANGES:

• All spaceship shots now derive from the Special Edition, as the shots are more dynamic, yet the CGI still looks “appropriate” (somewhat like 90’s movies and their CGI, which is basically the SE)

• Most of the theatrical matte paintings (Starry Sandcrawler sky, Ben’s hut, Falcon in the Death Star Hangar, Rebel Base Hangar, Award Ceremony audience, etc.) are replaced with their SE versions, save for a few which were either despecialized (R2 in the Canyon) or redone by yours truly (revised version of the interior Rebel hangar matte, Mos Eisley cantina matte)

• All explosions in the film have been recolored to a modern yellowish hue or redone for visual consistency.

• The usual annoying SE elements are removed, such as the falling Jawa shots, Ronto shots, Greedo shooting first, SE Jabba, etc.

• The main audio mix of the edit derives from D+77, which itself derives from @hairy_hen’s theatrical reconstruction mix (if I’m not mistaken), however some aspects of the audio are lifted from the SE mix (such as the Ronto sound effects) which are integrated into the main mix.

CHANGES:

• The crawl is from the SE version to keep in line with the rest of the films, although the opening logos are Theatrical. (From D+77 & 2019 SE Regrade)

• The escape pod will now appear to go into the planet and burning into the atmosphere. (Inspired from ANH Revisited)

• The canyon matte from R2-D2 is “despecialized” using a frame from the SE.

• The wide shot of R2 being loaded in the Sandcrawler is from the SE. (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• The next shot of the Sandcrawler driving at night and the wipe to the “Look sir, Droids!” scene will retain their SE elements, but has been edited to sync with the theatrical version. (From Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition)

• The Binary Sunset scene is from the SE (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• The fly that goes through the following shot is removed (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• Artoo isn’t hiding behind CGI rocks (From D+77)

• The Mos Eisley sequences have now been re-cut in the style of Revisited’s version for better pacing.

• The 138-frame landspeeder shot has been redone to remove fhe hand-drawn shadow underneath while retaining the SE level of quality. (Thanks Sky_ for the edit!)

• The wide shot of the cantina has now been replaced with an updated mattw akin to Adywan’s version, with the correct time of day. (AggelW’s version + Adywan’s version + Extra stuff)

• The Jabba scenes are removed using an iris wipe transition instead of the fade used in the theatrical cut to maintain consistent quality within the shots. (From D+77)

• The Millennium Falcon escape is from the SE version. (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• Both the Death Star and Alderaan explosions are replaced with new versions to upgrade the outdated explosion effects, however keeping them somewhat in-line to a 90’s aesthetic to match the SE.

• Retained all SE versions of the Falcon, from the Death Star hangar matte to the flying shots. (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• The censored scenes of the Imperial officers getting shot are reverted. (From D+77)

• Vader walking through the hallway has been reverted to the theatrical version, but combining the 35mm and UHD to make it look better. (From the 2019 UHD Regrade + D+77 2.3)

• The set corridor extension will be the SE version. (From the 2019 SE Regrade)

• The Dianoga is reverted back to it’s theatrical version. (From D+77)

• The Aurebesh text on the tractor beam has been replaced with the theatrical version. (From D+77)

• Vader has a completely new line omitting the mention of the Falcon having “jumped into hyperspace” which causes a continuity error in the scene following it, as previous editors added VFX to make it look like the Falcon is in a hyperspace tunnel. (Huge thanks to RyanGoldenVO for the voice-work!)

• Rebel Base Hanger matte painting is from the SE (From the 2019 SE Regrade)

• Biggs and Luke’s reunion is removed like the theatrical cut.

• To facilitate the removal of Biggs scene, the theatrical matte shot of the Rebel base interior was updated & improved, now combined with elements from the SE digital matte.

• Adding in Yavin in the pilot’s cockpits during the Battle sequences.

• The matte painting during the Award Ceremony will be from the Special Edition. (From the 2019 SE Regrade)

AUDIO CHANGES:

• Aforementioned change of Darth Vader’s new line omitting the mention of the crew “jumping into hyperspace”, which is instead replaced with him saying “they had just escaped our fighters!” (Credit to RyanGoldenVO for the voice-work)

• Reinstated the CGI Ronto’s sound effects (From 2019 SE Regrade)

• Distant cantina sounds are heard from the exterior shots of the Mos Eisley cantina (Inspired from Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition)

• “Blast it Biggs” will now be “Blast it Wedge” (Lifted from Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition)

• Luke will be heard saying “Biggs, Biggs!” in the radio (Lifted from Hal9000’s Custom Special Edition)

(EDIT AS OF 12/19/23) FUTURE CHANGES:

• Dantooine removed on the SE shot of the X-Wings approaching the Death Star, as it is clearly within firing range which creates a continuity error. (Inspired from Adywan’s ANH Revisited HD version)

• Smoothening out the jumpcuts transitions.

• Making R2-D2’s lights flicker red and blue.