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#253458
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Lego Star Wars II
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realMyst is what the 3-D version was called, and I also thought it was really cool. I didn't like not having the point and click system though. They should have made it like Myst 3 and 4 and (I think) 5 where you have the point and click with full, 360 degree view. I don't really care about the graphics, they're both great and I although I prefer the realMyst graphics, the ones on the original Myst are still stunning for when the game came out. It's truly mind blowing they achieved that in 1994. Only problem with that version was your "picture frame" viewer, only seeing within the space of a picture frame. realMyst does fit better with the rest of the games, with the real time water and enviroments. I don't get why they aren't putting THAT version on the PSP, possibly even upgraded higher. I mean, I'm all for preserving old games and all that stuff, but Myst has had plenty of releases in its original form, and is very easy to find that way. Also, In this modern day and age, you're going to attract more teens with the realMyst graphics then you ever could with the original Myst. If teens played more games like Myst, this world would be a better place...
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#253457
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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I don't know if anyone is willing to do this, but I'd love to get covers that look basically the same as the 9/12 covers, but take away the episode number and "Star Wars" logos and just give them their regular names. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. All the phonts would be primarily the same as the SE poster (1997) phonts, which looked really nice. On the back, all refrences to disc one would be removed, as well as the part of the description saying "includes digitally enhanced and original versions..." also running time would be corrected to fit OOT running time, and spine also get rid of episode number and Star Wars title. This would be very cool, if someone could do it.
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#253456
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Star Wars Wall Paper I Made!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253456/action/topic#253456
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Originally posted by: C3PX


One other detail on these posters I find perfect, is that though they are all by the same artist, the PT all say EPISODE in large writing, while the SE all say their names, notice how it is even called Star Wars instead of ANH. I think this signifies the lack of continuity between the two trilogies.


Remember, the Star Wars trilogy was only referred to by its episode names starting with the 2004 release. Before then, all releases and publicity had the regulas titles. i.e. Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. It's only been since the saga became "complete" that Lucas started pushing the episode envelope. And still, most people don't call the trilogy by its episode titles.

That's my main complaint about the 9/12 releases. It says the episode number and name all over, but I just want the name. I might redesign that nifty cover art the 9/12 had to get rid of all refrences to episode number (or disc one.)
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#253417
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Lego Star Wars II
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253417/action/topic#253417
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I haven't played the DS or Advance versions of the game, but they are entirely different from the console versions. With the DS version employing a far less powerful 3D engine, and the Advance version using an isometric perspective to decent effect (from what people are saying).

But I did just recently get the PSP version and I have to say it is just about as good as the console versions. The only thing that really detracts from it is the loading time is actually noticeable between areas sometimes, but it's still not obnoxious or anything.

Since there was no Lego 1 for PSP, they have 3 doors in the "Jabba" room, one for each prequel, and they let you play the boss battles from the first game. Door one is Darth Maul, door two is DooKu, and door 3 is Darth Vader.

Also each level from the main portion of the game now has a new play option "challenge" mode where you have to find 10 blue minikits within a certain amount of time. Doing so will give you yet another brick and I think some of them unlock more characters from the prequels.

I almost played all the way through on X-Box (I have like 80% or something) but I am really enjoying playing it again on the go.


I want a PSP so darn badly...but they cost so darn much!!! I'd love to pick up games like this and lots of others and be able to play them on the go. Lots of PS2 console games also come out for the PSP, and I'm a handheld type of guy, so it would be a dream come true for me.

Myst, the ever popular PC game from the 90's, is hitting the PSP soon, and I might just have to pick one up for it. Myst on the go? Yes please. (Though DS would have been a better choice for Myst)
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#253415
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Here's my stance
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic


I am thinking that Lucas is going to re-score the films with Williams once he's settled on a final cut.



You're joking....right?

The score to Star Wars is one of the best, if not THE best scores ever written, and is one of the greatest musical achievments of all time. ESB and ROTJ don't catch the same flair musically, but are still some of the best ever written. Re-writing and recording the music is the worst possible thing Lucas could do to the trilogy, and quite frankly, it would never happen because Williams is not a hack like Lucas. Far from it. He still write fantastic film scores, and would never butcher his own music.

I hope you're joking Go-Mer, but if you aren't.....well, fan of SE, OOT, PT or whatever, that is just blasphemy to Star Wars, in all its many forms.
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#253219
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Here's my stance
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Because that's apparently the way it is around here lately. Only George is the devil. Everybody else has "legitimate" reasons or "inoffensive" changes that "actually improve" the movie, while George's changes are horrible and wrong because of our subjective stance and love for Star Wars.

Just wait. Within five minutes, somebody's going to post something in Spielberg's defense about E.T., which is always the same defense. For the last time, people, if you're against changes being made in movies (or any type of art) be consistent! You can't just say one man's changes suck simply because you think they suck. A change is a change is a change, and if you don't like one of them based on that principle, you can't seriously be in favor of others.


Yes, the changes in E.T. sucked. Sucked hard. But Spielberg did give fans an extremely good version of the original on DVD, so in my book, he gets a pass on that one. Close Encounters, I really don't know what to say about, having never seen the film, but if he hasn't ever released the theatrical version, he certainly should.

I don't think that Lucas is the only one at fault for changing his films. Why I think he's worse then all the others is that he does it once every few years, and then feeds us bullshit about "it was always this way" and then releases them on DVD a million fricking times. When he finally did release the original theatrical versions, he did it in a low quality way as a "Fuck you" to OOT fans. Lucas is much worse then Spielberg in my book, even though they both change thier films. Spielberg does respect his fans, and if he ever does release the original version of CE3K, you can bet your ass it'll be high quality.

In the end, yes, changes are changes, but I'm really okay with directors altering thier films, as long as they release the original version in a high quality way, and don't disrespect the fans constantly. It gets ridiculous when directors constantly alter thier films like Lucas and then double dip like crazy. Peter Jackson altered LOTR for DVD with the Extended Edition, but released both versions in high quality and let the public decide which version to watch. In my opinion, his changes (additions) were vast improvments. If the Star Wars special editions had actually enhanced the films, I'd watch those, but yes, I'd still want the original unaltured versions preserved.

I'm not saying that only George is the devil for changing his films, but he is to an extent for the way he treats the films and his fans.
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#253062
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253062/action/topic#253062
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I just said I hope he gets hit by a car. Did I say anything about getting killed? Don't think so. A hit by a car wouldn't even equal the pain that he's inflicted on fans over the years, but it was the least grusome thing I could think of. (***joking***)

And Gaffer Tape, I get what you're saying about Tolkien and the hobbit, but that was not an intentional squandering of the old version. It just happens when a book is revised. The new version is put out, and they have no reason to keep publishing the old version. It's so much harder to do that with books, because if someone went to the bookstore looking for the hobbit and saw two versions labeled "original" and "Revised" they'd be confused as hell. Films are different. And you can find the original version of the hobbit. I'm not for editing and re-editing fiction books, as you so elequently put it. Tolkien only made that one major edit, and I'm not saying I'm all for authors dicking with they're books all the time. Tokien just changed that one bit, once, and he didn't force it on the fans. People who already bought the book weren't going to run out and buy the new printing, and it was the publishers that stopped printing the old version. You've got a very convincing arguement, but I think these two types of fiction and editing just can't be compared. In the end, everyone can have thier own opinion and it really doesn't matter what those opinions are. To each his own.

Plus, Tolkien didn't say "this is how it always was, the old version was just half written."
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#253059
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The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253059/action/topic#253059
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Originally posted by: zombie84
It wasnt that Luke was destined for greatness because his father was filled with midichlorians. His father was a great warrior, in the physical and mental sense, and those are things inherited by children oftentimes--and they're not related to the Force. Luke wanted to be a Jedi because he wanted to be like his father--he believed he could do it. Thats all the Force was. Luke was able to use the Force because he believed he could. Han couldn't because he was a cynic and didn't believe in it--but Luke was innocent and pure in heart and believed in himself and in this power and thats why he is able to wield the Force. This even continued into ESB--"i don't believe it," "that is why you fail." The whole thing about Luke's father at that time had nothing to do with the Force, it was merely a character arc of Luke wanting to connect with the father figure he never knew--he was physically and mentally fit after training and was a natural warrior and thats as far as heredetary went because the Force had nothing to do with genetics or any kind of physical link.


That's what I was trying to say. You nailed it Zombie. Like I said before, I can't believe Lucas took such a special and complex and beatiful thing and made it into a hereditary blood type in the preqeuls.
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#253034
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253034/action/topic#253034
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Originally posted by: Wesyeed
And just in case some have forgotten how GL thinks.

"The special edition, that's the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it's on VHS, if anybody wants it...I'm not going to spend the, we're talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it [the original OT] doesn't really exist anymore. It's like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it."

- George Lucas

Riiiiiiight...http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviews3/starwars/6-03-2004.jpg



Jeez....what a fucking idiot. That quote just makes my blood boil. How can he say that the version he released into theaters, that so many people spent so much blood and sweat on is half finished? How can he say that a version with added CGI and Jabba is 50 percent more finished then the original? How? How? It baffles me. I hope George Lucas gets hit by a car one of these days, because he deserves it. So many people spent so much time and effort on these films, and then he says the originals were crap. I can't believe any of the relationships with people he had while making the OT still exist.

And any real filmmaker never calls the version they release to the public half finished. Did Peter Jackson say the LOTR theatricals were only half finished, because they didn't last 4 hours? No, he didn't. Do modern teen-movie creators call the theatricals unfinished because the unrated had more boobs? No, they don't. Lucas can rot in hell.

And this thing about Tolkien and the original Hobbit not being in wide circulation...I'm sorry but that is just not comparable to Lucas' films. First off, Tolkien can do whatever he wants to his books, because they're all his. The OT is not Lucas's, but a huge collaberation. And when a book is revised, its just natural that the other one stops getting published. Why would you spend the time publishing version one of a book, and versions two and three and all that? It's silly. You don't see the World Book 1992 being widly circulated, do you? An updated version came out. Not improved. Updated. They aren't trying to squander the old version, its just that in books, when a new printing comes out, they don't keep making the old printing.
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#252894
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The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252894/action/topic#252894
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
I never got the impression from the OOT that anyone was excluded from the Force or that anyone's potential was limited by anything other than their own determination.


I would think that too. The thing about the force is that it is everything. It is the trees, the grass, the sky, the stars, you yourself are part of the force. So if everything and everyone is part of the force, everyone can manipulate it, control it, make it help them in thier darkest hour. Some aren't as in tune with the force as others. What it really means to be a Jedi is that you are incredibly in tune with the force. It doesn't matter what your "medichlorian" count is, but how determined you are and in the end, how much you believe. In real life, those who believe in God, pray to God, and give God thier loyalty will be rewarded and thier life enriched. The force was such a beatuiful and strong analogy, and then Lucas made the prequels and fucked it all up by making the force something that your blood count dictates. Is thier something in our blood that makes us more in tune with God than others? No. Lucas sold his soul when he made the prequels. He took the complex and beautiful concept of the force and downtoned it for kiddies.

And Go-Mer, if you can argue with that, saying that's always how it was, then you truly are insane, and I pity you.
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#252815
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The Phantom of the Opera Resynched (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252815/action/topic#252815
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Originally posted by: wmgan

Now, the recent movie of The Producers -- that's the way a movie musical should be made (and I know I'm going to get lots of argument on this). Great singing, great acting. Those are the things that really count.


I'll side with you there. The movie has great singing and acting, but I think its strongest point was that it felt like a Broadway musical, not a movie based on a Broadway musical. The sets, the lighting, none of it really felt like a movie, but like a stage show. You can certainly tell this in "Betrayed" when all the other jail cell's inmates just sort of fade away and they do a lot of Broadway style lighting. Phantom of the Opera felt much more like a movie....inspired by the broadway show.

And this edit sounds really cool. It looks like a lot of work went into it.
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#252740
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GET RID OF GO-MER-TONIC
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252740/action/topic#252740
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Originally posted by: Tiptup


I agree, but I don't believe Go-Mer is trolling. He could be, since he sort of walks the line and is constantly bringing every thread off topic like Obi Jeewhyen pointed out, but he hasn't actually done anything obviously troll-ish yet.


Excuse me, but one of the definitions of trolling is constanstly steering threads off topic. It is a very obvious sign of the troll, and there are forums where you get banned for it. I guess this isn't one of them. It's fine when threads get off topic, because sometimes threads slowly go that way as the conversation weigns, but Go-Mer purposfully does it in every thread he gets into, and not gradually or over time. It's freaking ridiculous. Textbook trolling.
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#252668
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Here's my stance
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252668/action/topic#252668
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
As someone pointed out on this forum a while back. Tolkien did alter the Hobbit's riddle scene with Gollum. Initially the ring was an openly revealed prize, but in light of the LotR books, Tolkien knew that Gollum would not riddle for something with that much control over him.

Though, Tolkien never erased that previous version of the Hobbit and even worked the old version into his newer version as a story element. It became a lie that Bilbo told to ease his conscience, which was an awesome way to make a change like this.


Huh. He really did that? That's got to be a pretty hard to find copy, cause I know I've never seen it. It does seem like a good change to fit with LOTR though, but if you take Hobbit as its own book, that part is better left untouched because then it doesn't feel like its setting up something big. Still, I think that was a perfectly reasonable and very good change.

And how off topic has this thread gotten?
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#252630
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GET RID OF GO-MER-TONIC
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252630/action/topic#252630
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Have you read any of my posts? I don't want him banned because his opinions are different. I want him banned because he's a freaking troll, and somehow I don't think ignoring him is going to get him away. For starters, it would be impossible getting everyone to ignore him simultaniously, me included. I think there are lots of people that can't ignore people like him, and I'm, sadly, one of them. I think trolling is a perfectly reasonable ground for banning, and if it isn't, there is something seriously wrong here.