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Post: #253147
Topic: <strong>The "Dr. Gonzo" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/253147/action/topic#253147
Time: 24-Oct-2006 12:30 PM

As Moth3r already said many of the preservation projects discussed here, such as alternate audio tracks to match up to your GOUT video, can be found in the alt.binaries.starwars newsgroup.

Dr_Gonzo'a set was posted in the alt.binaries.dvd group 74 days ago. Giganews might be the only provider with a retention that long....

Post: #252601
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252601/action/topic#252601
Time: 20-Oct-2006 9:51 PM

Originally posted by: Belbucus
One note on the 35mm Dolby Stereo that's been posted already: The overall level was set so peaks fall in the neighborhood of "0". This is just good practice when transferring analogue material into the digital domain. However, because of the intentionally limited dynamics of this mix, when played side by side with the '93 mix (which also peaks at "0", but with far more dynamic range), it will seem noticeably louder.

I think it might be more appropriate to issue a second version of this at a reduced level referenced to the ’93 PCM, to better represent its place in the larger scheme

Now playing at a tele-schwa-cinema near you . . . (that's French for a.b.starwars)

Belbucus' '77 Dolby Stereo at Reference Level synced to GOUT

Archive: DS48 RL DVD.zip
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name
-------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ----
1395841168 Defl:N 1176838075 16% 10-15-06 17:22 4be7733c DS48 RL DVD.wav

Use the same delay offset as the others. It's not built-in.

. . . blah, blah, blah . . .

Post: #252503
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252503/action/topic#252503
Time: 20-Oct-2006 1:25 PM

Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
I'll check ESB later tonight.

For STAR WARS I'm coming up between 1.017 - 1.018
Nearer to the high side of that range, I'm calling it 1.0177

0.948 < ESB < 0.949 . . . I'll call it 0.9485

1.014 < ROTJ < 1.015 . . . I'll call it 1.0143

Post: #252348
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252348/action/topic#252348
Time: 19-Oct-2006 6:13 PM

Originally posted by: Moth3r
I think we need a third opinion.

I'll check ESB later tonight.

For STAR WARS I'm coming up between 1.017 - 1.018
Nearer to the high side of that range, I'm calling it 1.0177

Post: #252307
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252307/action/topic#252307
Time: 19-Oct-2006 3:09 PM

Yes boba feta uploaded that one to filefactory, but he split it into 4 FLAC files.

I can only speculate why.

If you decode boba's 4 FLACs and combine them into one large WAV, it'll be 1,395,130,152 bytes.
The original WAV from Belbucus is larger (1,395,131,276) so naturally the CRC-32 won't match.

FLAC doesn't preserve the extra RIFF chunks that were present in the original WAV's non-canonical header.

However no PCM samples are lost. The "fingerprint" will match the one in my quote.
The fingerprint is the MD5 of the WAV's payload only (i.e. PCM samples stored within the WAV) and doesn't include the WAV file's header.
[Contrast the CRC-32 in my quote which is for the entire WAV file including header and extra RIFF chunks.]

Post: #252023
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/252023/action/topic#252023
Time: 18-Oct-2006 4:05 PM

'77 mix from this laserdisc:
The Star Wars Video Disc Site
The Laser Disc Database

Post: #251987
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/251987/action/topic#251987
Time: 18-Oct-2006 12:59 PM

LT/RT ? Where's that acronym buster when you need it ?

Meanwhile ... back at the ranch (no, not that ranch) ... back at your favorite news group a.b.starwars

Subject: Belbucus' ESB PCM synced to GOUT

Archive: ESB '93 DVD.zip
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name
-------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ----
1438313896 Defl:N 1241170922 14% 10-15-06 06:48 bc6c0f6d ESB '93 DVD.wav

Subject: Belbucus' ROTJ PCM synced to GOUT

Archive: ROTJ '93 DVD.zip
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name
-------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ----
1517158176 Defl:N 1286355894 15% 10-15-06 08:50 d1c4c296 ROTJ '93 DVD.wav

Post: #251723
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/251723/action/topic#251723
Time: 17-Oct-2006 8:28 AM

^ Use that if you're making a DVD with only one audio track on it.

However if you're gonna make a disc with many soundtracks (mono, '93, '85, etc) then you might better wait for the "lowered level" Dolby Stereo file.

Post: #251399
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/251399/action/topic#251399
Time: 15-Oct-2006 12:26 PM

Belbucus' '77 Dolby Stereo synced to GOUT
now posting to alt.binaries.starwars

Archive: DS48 DVD.zip
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name
-------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ----
1395841168 Defl:N 1226706675 12% 10-08-06 09:52 5b5e2e85 DS48 DVD.wav

Thank you Belbucus !

Belbucus writes:

... the original Dolby Stereo featured on the 35mm prints. This was a transfer of the analogue tracks of the 1985 CAV P&S set. Yes, there were alot of missing frames - including gaps as much as 1 second in length when compared to the GOUT track. Other previously documented issues included the wrong Fox logo cue, and some instances of pretty severe "wow" or sudden pitch shift. Everything has been repaired and/or filled from alternate sources, taking great care to match the EQ and level so the fixes integrate seamlessly.

All the major things have been fixed as well as alot of smaller ones. Click and pop removal was done manually
and small doses of decrackling software was applied selectively where needed.

Post: #249235
Topic: Episode IV: What Has Changed?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249235/action/topic#249235
Time: 3-Oct-2006 1:30 PM

Wait for Belbucus to finish his restoration

Post: #248875
Topic: What's missing from GOUT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248875/action/topic#248875
Time: 1-Oct-2006 6:28 AM

What SHOULD BE MISSING from X0 timecode V3.04 and later versions

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4915/01565201rz6.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3690/01565202bp2.jpg

Those three fields describe a single frame of film.

Combined with the earlier correction at 49:14:19 (see the second message posted in this thread) we now have:

http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/5057/01565123ya5.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9080/01565200an1.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9391/01565201qm5.jpg

Last field of DC Side 2

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4425/45933zg6.png

First field of DC Side 3

Post: #248853
Topic: What's missing from GOUT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248853/action/topic#248853
Time: 1-Oct-2006 12:44 AM

Originally posted by: Belbucus
Also for the record, only example two (at the transition from side 4 to side 5 in the DC set) corresponds to any of the original reel changeovers

Are you sure they line up ?

To my eyes & ears, it seems like the reel change was here:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9436/10317dt5.png

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2741/02401017gk6.png

while the DC side change is here:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8762/5159si7.png

dark_jedi Faces (interlaced) (Ya think ? No, really, it is interlaced)

Post: #248765
Topic: What's missing from GOUT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248765/action/topic#248765
Time: 30-Sep-2006 9:05 AM

What's missing from X0 timecode V3.03

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6119/01491418mv8.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/844/70632wt5.png

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2986/01491420ul0.jpg

Center frame is missing from Difinitive Collection. Completely missing. Not even one field of that frame is present on DC.

Japanese Special Collection ('86), Widescreen Edition ('89) "shrinking ratio", Widescreen Edition ('92) fixed ratio
each contains only one field of that frame.

Faces contains both fields (together, not split by telecine)

Faces frame from MeBeJedi prototype (IVTCed)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1396/31854rh2.png

Faces frame from dark_jedi (interlaced)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1008/32215aj6.png

It's a splice point. It's got yellow tape across the top. Nevertheless, it's a frame of film worthy of preservation.
I believe it should be inserted into X0 timecode V3.04 and beyond....

DC's 3:2 cadence is broken at that point with that frame missing.
However, once that frame is restored in its proper position, then 3:2 cadence is restored across the splice,
and also consistent with Faces cadence across the splice.

Post: #248764
Topic: What's missing from GOUT
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248764/action/topic#248764
Time: 30-Sep-2006 9:04 AM

What's missing from GOUT

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9890/02401400jh7.jpg

That frame is missing from GOUT

Looks like DC might be missing a field

Faces has both of those fields comprising frame 2:40:14:00 - the frame with the guy's hand nearly "touching his hair"

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3931/5158vq6.png

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3103/5159rs7.png

dark_jedi Faces (interlaced)

Here's those two fields after re-assembly

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4083/29580sb6.png

Faces frame from MeBeJedi prototype (IVTCed)

That frame shouldn't be missing from GOUT

Post: #248695
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248695/action/topic#248695
Time: 29-Sep-2006 4:16 PM

@Arnie.d
STAR WARS only

@dumb_kid
WAV file only, so technically neither PAL nor NTSC, however I believe Belbucus used Region 1 GOUT for timing reference

@boba feta
are you volunteering ?

Post: #248686
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248686/action/topic#248686
Time: 29-Sep-2006 3:03 PM

Belbucus' DC PCM synced to GOUT
now posting to alt.binaries.starwars

Archive: DC48 DVD.zip
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Name
-------- ------ ------- ----- ---- ---- ------ ----
1395131276 Defl:N 1163562866 17% 09-23-06 09:16 71be2bb2 DC48 DVD.wav

FLAC fingerprint:
7577368a4492a12cc87da5212fb5250d

Post: #248498
Topic: What's Original '77 and What's Not?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248498/action/topic#248498
Time: 28-Sep-2006 9:13 AM

Originally posted by: StarWarsFan1976
Also the 35 mm audio that was posted what version of the LD is it from ?

From this LD:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/russdawson/laservhsvcd/laser/stan.html
http://www.blam1.com/StarWars/1130-84.htm
http://japanld.free.fr/laserdisc.php?id=897

Post: #248120
Topic: OUT: PAL or NTSC?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/248120/action/topic#248120
Time: 26-Sep-2006 5:28 PM

Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker

Originally posted by: boris
Personally, I think you should be flaming people who write "your" in place of "you're". Or "then" in place of "than"

Originally posted by: boris
Is it older then 8 years old?
[...]
It's true you see more R4 then anything else...

You can lead a horse to water . . .
but you can't make it learn it's English lesson !

I'll stop now.

Post: #247934
Topic: OUT: PAL or NTSC?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247934/action/topic#247934
Time: 25-Sep-2006 10:04 PM

Originally posted by: boris
Personally, I think you should be flaming people who write "your" in place of "you're".

Or "then" in place of "than"

Post: #247627
Topic: STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247627/action/topic#247627
Time: 24-Sep-2006 9:29 AM

Originally posted by: Jaiman Tuckuh
I need to update my advice, as well as my toolbox (haven't picked out a util' yet).

I need to update my advice too.
Superseding SHA1 (160 bit) are SHA-224, SHA-256, SHA-384 and SHA-512.
JSummer is a nifty cross-platform utility written in Java with both GUI and CLI/batch modes.
It does SHA-256 along with SHA1 & MD5.

Post: #247607
Topic: Particular DVD brands
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247607/action/topic#247607
Time: 24-Sep-2006 3:05 AM

Originally posted by: Jaiman Tuckuh
(Most LiteOn's will too, but they generally make mediocre or variable-quality burns. OTOH, they are excellent readers/rippers, for those crapped out discs you might get in trade. And they're often upgradable as all hell. You can often get 'em cheap and use them just for reading).

The "Slimtype" (LiteOn/Sony) burner in my laptop does a piss-poor job reading the thousand-or-so TY CD-Rs I've got, most of which were written by a Philips.

Post: #247258
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/247258/action/topic#247258
Time: 22-Sep-2006 3:19 PM

Originally posted by: klokwerk
Would somebody be willing to post this to a sharing service (yousendit, rapidshare, megaupload,etc) for those of us who can't get it from the newsgroups?

Somebody has done.

After decoding the FLAC files, you'll end up with seventiesfilmnut's original WAVs:

One.wav D7C7D154
Two.wav 47EEB4DB
Three.wav 911171EA

Post: #246984
Topic: Info: 2006 GOUT DVD using 'Faces' PCM Sound?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246984/action/topic#246984
Time: 21-Sep-2006 7:27 PM

Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
I have direct 16-bit 44.1khz digital copy of the 1989 laserdisc mix if that's of any good to anyone? Not sure precisely which mix this IS, but it has the missing tractor beam line, but not the close the blast doors.

Now posting to alt.binaries.starwars
Expanded size: 1.2 GB
Compressed with your favourite lossless codec (FLAC, APE, SHN, etc) will fit nicely onto a single CD-ROM.

THX to John for sharing this with us !

Post: #246323
Topic: What's Original '77 and What's Not?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246323/action/topic#246323
Time: 20-Sep-2006 12:10 PM

35mm stereo mix (except Fox fanfare, which isn't the '54 recording by Alfred Newman) courtesy of Jeanine

Post: #246123
Topic: Seriously, what is so special about PAL? I mean I can only understand if that's the standard where you live, but..
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246123/action/topic#246123
Time: 19-Sep-2006 10:50 PM

Yeah, why isn't NTSC the standard in the country that produces Bollywood movies ?