Definitely case by case. I’ll let you guys know as I come to them. Just keep in mind, I’m not creating Despecialized 2.8 here, just replacing and improving a couple of the most noticeable shots to create a slightly better viewing experience on the BD.
The issue with those shots are that they’re inconsistent. I’ll use the sand crawler as an example. Yes the still that the sandcrawler is rotoscoped onto is higher quality than the -1 shot, but it’s kind of distractingly obvious where the seam is. The -1 shot has the advantage of having consistent quality across the shot without being a dramatic drop in quality from the surrounding shots. I haven’t yet tried dropping the shot in, but that’s just my thinking behind it.
Obviously I meant more than just the battle, I was just using it as an example. The sand crawler shot is definitely one to be replaced no question.
I would not consider inserting quick shots from TN1 for the sake of color.
I will not purely for the sake of color unless the color is unsalvagable in Harmy’s version and there is no other source. I have yet to come across a shot like this but who knows.
I will, however insert quick shots for the sake of quality and resolution, most notable during the battle of Yavin sequence where most of the space shots in TN1’s are very clean and where the jump in quality between blu Ray and gout upscales are most noticeable in Harmy’s imo. I will only do this if the shot has little to no noticeable damage on TN1’s and if the increased resolution and clarity is noticeable and improves the experience. And of course it will be color corrected to match.
I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that Mike’s color correction begins matched to the technicolor print, then he corrects for the unique idiosyncrasies that technicolor has to approach the best approximation of what was on the original negative.
To be fair I think Stan was joking. Poking fun at how Hollywood will make just about anything they think there’s a market for, regardless how dumb.
A New Hope is actually my favorite film of the bunch, but I acknowledge that Empire is a technically superior film.
Density said:
Some of us do not sit at our computers staring at the screen for days on end.
Hate to break it to you, but it’s because of people who “sit at their computers staring at the screen for days on end” that we even have these projects you’re so eager to get your hands on in the first place, so maybe try to avoid basically insulting every person on this forum while you ask for something?
Plus, it’s not like this whole scene is exactly a secret anymore.
Damnit! The jig is up guys!! They found us!
Stereochemistry said:
not have I encountered a name of that site.
Yoda? Is that you?
Maz looked fine to my eyes. Very photorealistic.
Snoke on the other hand took me way out of the movie the CGI was so obvious.
I’m noticing that lights and reflections are “streaked,” like it was a slow exposure and their luminescence is trailing off a little. It’s especially noticeable when Artoo and Threepio are in the sandcrawler. Is this the result of overexposure in the scan or is it native to the print or negative?
I noticed this too. It makes it appear as if the jawa is translucent.
Thanks for this !!! 😄 Really happy it’s finally here.
One question: Aside from the extra audio tracks, will there be any differences between the MKV and the upcoming ISO? Thanks !
Yes, there will be further cleanup, and possibly a minor color correction on a scene or two.
Team Negative1
If there’s going to be further color correction, I’d suggest working on the scene in Ben’s hut. The colors are all over the place. Some shots look relatively good, but in others, the faces are practically purple.
I finally finished downloading and had a quick scan through of it. While some of it I think is clean enough to be comparable to DeEd, other parts are still quite distractingly degraded. I think what I may end up doing is creating a kind of hybrid between Despecialized and TN1’s. Using -1 in place of GOUT upscale shots, scenes where the color grading is too extreme to be effectively corrected, and for color reference throughout.
Any idea if this would be compatible with the audio tracks of the Despecialized Edition? I have doubts since I’m fairly certain DE is GOUT synced and this is not. Or am I remembering incorrectly?
If Team Negative1 doesn’t mind, I may potentially like to use this for my custom blu-ray project which has to this point used Harmy’s v2.5 as its source. Would this be a problem with the Team? If not I understand and will continue as I was.
Feel free to use it in your project.
Just make sure the proper credits are given.
Team Negative1
Of course 😃
If Team Negative1 doesn’t mind, I may potentially like to use this for my custom blu-ray project which has to this point used Harmy’s v2.5 as its source. Would this be a problem with the Team? If not I understand and will continue as I was.
Harmy said at the Team Negative1 thread:
Wow! Looks great! Until I can make a new version of Despecialized (and this will be an invaluable asset in doing that) I would definitely recommend Team Negative 1’s version over Despecialized v2.5.
Well I guess there’s one opinion.
So Team Negative1 just released their v1. I’m currently downloading and haven’t yet watched it, but the response so far has been good. So this puts me in a place I didn’t think I’d be in for a while. Should I forego my work with Harmy’s Despecialized and make Team-1’s work the basis of this project? Aside from color, which can be changed if need be, do you think the quality of work is up to the same level as Harmy’s?
I know people were excited for my CC of Harmy’s, but in the end what I’m striving for is the best presentation of the film, and if that is now Team Negative1’s work, then I’ll be happy to swap them out.
All of this is of course provided Team-1 wouldn’t have a problem with me using it as my source.
Downloading now! Can’t wait to see. 😃 Very excited.
At any rate, if I were to put the special features on the same disc as a movie, I would spread them across all discs. So the special features that pertain to the theatrical version (such as the 1977 ‘Making of Star Wars’ documentary) would go on disc 1, the features that pertain specifically to the special edition (such as “anatomy of a dewback”) would go on disc 2, and so on and so forth.
I’m not doing that, since I think it’s a lot simpler and cleaner to have all the special features together on their own disc, but if I were to do that, that’s what I’d do.
I’m sorry. Maybe I’m alone here but I think this just looks really unnatural and unappealing. If I had a choice, I’d rather watch the somewhat muted colors of the raw scan than the overly boosted, glowing, unnatural skintone colors represented here.
This is not a criticism of your method or work, just of the result it produces on this particular film.
Yeah well, these are all issues I’ll deal with when I come to them, but there you guys have an idea of my plans for empire and Jedi.
Someone should edit it so that Han shoots at Kylo Ren and misses before Kylo stabs him. We wouldn’t want Kylo to come off as a cold blooded killer who would kill someone before being fired at would we?
I doesn’t have seamless branching.
You don’t have seamless branching? How do you mange without it?
I tape my penis to my leg.
