I’ve personally never found it weird that Ben doesn’t recognize artoo. I mean it’s not like he’s the only blue R2 unit in the galaxy right? And Luke only ever refers to him as “this little droid” in Ben’s presence.
What I find stranger is “don’t seem to remember ever owning a droid.”
Like, what Obi, you forget about R4? Jerk.
Or how about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUtnas5ScSE
I mean it’s kind of a hybrid commercial/short film, but still beautiful and tells an interesting story.
Darth Lucas said:
Umm… Yes? Why else would you? If I’m throwing away 17 minutes of my life, I want to get something out of it beyond “it looked cool”. It’s no different than watching any short film except it’s in the Star Wars universe.There’s not much plot you can get out of a 17 minute fan film and still have it be entertaining. Now if it were a long one and it had no story I would understand.
Are you kidding? Clearly you’ve never seen a good short film. Some of the best stories I’ve seen have been told in less than ten minutes with no dialogue.
Post one then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRl2OlyNMuc
Music isn’t the original for copyright issues so just watch muted because the music they added is really off-putting but still. And it’s not HD but it’s the only video I found with the full vesion.
Manual corrections of the other frames you posted.
Darth Lucas said:
Umm… Yes? Why else would you? If I’m throwing away 17 minutes of my life, I want to get something out of it beyond “it looked cool”. It’s no different than watching any short film except it’s in the Star Wars universe.There’s not much plot you can get out of a 17 minute fan film and still have it be entertaining. Now if it were a long one and it had no story I would understand.
Are you kidding? Clearly you’ve never seen a good short film. Some of the best stories I’ve seen have been told in less than ten minutes with no dialogue.
It’s toward the end of the movie. If I remember correctly its the scene just before the “begun the clone war has” scene.
As always I prefer to develop an algorithm to do my corrections for me, since unlike people algorithms are always objective and unbiased by personal taste. So I’ve developed an algorithm, that automatically corrects the 70 mm frames (or any other frames). The algorithm requies no other input, but the uncorrected frame, and automatically estimates the correct colors. Here are my results for the frames darth lucas posted:
The black levels are a bit off, but I’m pretty impressed how close this came to my manual adjustments.
I don’t understand the hype over this fan film. I mean sure it looked cool, but there wasn’t much of a story. It was basically twenty minutes of highly choreographed fighting.
Thank you for letting me know to not bother with this, as was my original impulse.
Wait, you would actually watch a 17 minute fanfilm for the plot?
Umm… Yes? Why else would you? If I’m throwing away 17 minutes of my life, I want to get something out of it beyond “it looked cool”. It’s no different than watching any short film except it’s in the Star Wars universe.
I don’t understand the hype over this fan film. I mean sure it looked cool, but there wasn’t much of a story. It was basically twenty minutes of highly choreographed fighting.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s cool in like a shut off your brain and watch some cool fight choreography and stunts way, but I don’t get why people are saying its like “the film we all wanted/deserved”. It’s just some dragged out fighting bookended by a sorta cool thing with the emperor for context. In that sense it didn’t really give us anything we didn’t see in the prequels already.
The only real difference between this and every other fan film showing over the top lightsaber choreography in a forest (idk why the hell every fan film has to take place in a forest setting) is that one of the guys is dressed like Darth Maul.
Once, again, I’m not saying it’s BAD. It accomplished what it wanted to very well, which is some kickass lightsaber fighting with some good looking camera work. I enjoyed it for sure. I’m just saying I’m not getting the overwhelming amount of hype is all.
I’ve done some quick and dirty corrections of some of the 70mm frames.
Well I didn’t muck about with the blurays contrast at all. Just aligned the corrected 70mm frame in photoshop so it was registered and matched up to the bluray, then set the blend mode to ‘color’, so I could see how the bluray luminance looked with those colors.
And just for the heck of it, here is the bluray with the corrected 70mm frame’s color mapped onto it.
Works better. You could certainly touch up some things and maybe do a little work on the music, but it certainly works better than before.
I took a quick stab at quickly correcting the 70mm frame in Photoshop. I think it’s probably closer to accurate. Certainly more natural-looking.
70mm Uncorrected:
70mm Corrected:
There’s some weird splotchiness going on in his uniform on that one.
Again, I’m willing to take a look as always.
I’ve mentioned a few times about last August when I went to the D23 expo I attented a film restoration presentation. One if the things I asked the guy was about the original “fantasound” soundtrack with the Deems Taylor narration.
The guy said that he wants nothing more than to be able to present the film with that original narration, but that they simply don’t have the original stereo tracks or the master tapes for the deems Taylor narration. That at some point before anyone he knows started working there, they were lost or destroyed somehow. He said it makes him extremely sad and that even though Corey Burton is a fantastically talented voice-over actor, he wishes they could track down that original narration in any kind of usable, high quality form. He did say they’ve been trying to track it down for years, with no luck, but that it makes it considerably harder when the powers that be don’t seem to care as much about it as the people restoring it and won’t fund a wild goose chase.
He seemed throughout the presentation to have a certain disdain for Disney executives and their lack of appreciation for the integrity of their own cinematic history.
To quote him directly “if we had it, we would use it. Unfortunately we just don’t right now”
Would it be do-able to try and roto dooku into the Jedi council throughout the film? You would have to find some point where we see dooku sitting down with his whole body visible and idk if there is any point in the films where we see that. If there is though, that would be I think a good enough way to make him not just seem to appear out of thin air.
There is no “we” anymore.
Individual members are still perfectly capable of responding to questions.
Why should we not be allowed to discuss the project anymore just because TN1 disbanded?
- production photos are USELESS FOR THIS
I disagree. While production photos are rarely indicative of what the actual scene looked like in the film, and you should not be trying to MATCH production photos by any means, what they are great for is giving you a sense of the natural color of sets and costumes, which is very useful in trying to understand things like just how green Tarkin’s uniform should look under certain lighting. It’s not a source to be matched by any means, but they’re still useful as reference when all of the sources you are trying to match contradict each other in some way.
I think there’s too much green in that. It’s important to note that no matter what the colors of the walls or the lighting off camera, those lights behind Tarkin should be a fairly pure white, but I’m seeing a fair bit of green in them around the edges.
I would suggest removing the Palpatine shot entirely. Move the dooku shot to after “…master, or the apprentice?”
Then re-use the wide shot of everyone standing around the funeral pyre for the ending shot. Maybe find some appropriate music to blend in that grandly swells up to the end if you can find something that works.
I’d be willing to take a look towne32.
I think it’s futile to find the “correct colors” simply because there is no such thing. The colors in 1977 varied depending on what film stock it was printed on, the warmth of the projector bulb, the competence of the projectionist, etc. No two screenings would have looked the same.
Therefore I think it’s less important to try and match a specific reference, and more important to try and find what the colors were MEANT to look like, which you can only really do by looking at what color sets, props, actors, etc actually look like, then take into account factors like lighting on the set.
Another thing that can be done is to look at several references and look for what is similar between them. If you have ten references and seven of them say the wall is grey, two of them say it’s green, and one of them says its blue, then it’s probably best to lean toward grey.
