Darth Lucas

DavidMerrick said:

He’s the Galaxy’s most dashing man.

Excuse me?

I guess I’ll be the first to throw my hat in the ring for TFA.

Ever so slightly off topic, I like things to match :p so I created a bluray cover for the soon to be relased The Force Awakens bluray to match look of the set.

I actually timed both the Fox logo and the “a long time ago” card to Mike Verta’s screenshots. I will probably revert the fox logo back since I like the other look better and only matched it originally as an exercise, but I’m gonna keep the “a long time ago” card.

Looks great! I see no issues 😃

I’ll be more than happy to take a look when you’ve got it encoded 😃

Been making progress. I’m basically at the point now where all I’m waiting for is for towne32 to finish v2.65 or v2.7 or whatever he’s calling it haha. Then I just need to encode each version (1977 and 1981) and plug them into the disc.

DrDre said:

I think this is it:

Lovin it.

I was only saying match ESB for the 81 crawl because it was filmed around the same time.

Well I can’t really speak for 77, but the '81 crawl should probably resemble empire in terms of color.

towne32 said:

DL: What did you have in mind for your V2 crawl? We’ve discussed the 1981 crawl before, but for the benefit of everyone else: I like what Darth Lucas has done in general. He got a cleaned up 1981 crawl from Harmy (I think originally from TN1?) and then used the ESB starfield and redid the pan and rotoscoped the flyover elements in.

V2 is going to be starting completely from scratch, instead of building off of Harmy’s crawl. Also 1080p since its as of now planned to accompany despecialized v3.0.

Working from the bluray, I’ll use the same technique as MikeVerta used for recreating his 77 crawl: taking screen grabs of each line of the crawl and then reconstructing the entirety of it in Photoshop. I will then place The 2D crawl in after effects over the 81 starfield and key frame it to follow the path and timing of the 81 crawl.

For the pandown and flyover I’ll utilize the same techniques as before, but working from a color corrected bluray in 1080p instead of from DeEd2.5 as before.

If there’s enough demand, I would not be opposed to starting work early on the updated “from scratch” 81 crawl that I was planning for v2 of my project.

That pretty much matches my suspicions on what the accurate color ought to be.

Ronster said:

Sick to death of Super Hero movies.

Well then you’re in the wrong thread brother.

There’s more to entertainment than just action and visually exciting things happening on screen. Not saying that’s the reason you weren’t entertained by them, but its a valid point. I’m sorry you weren’t too entertained by them, but we’re talking about telling stories here. The whole point was to illustrate that it is possible to tell a compelling story in a short amount of time.

Imagine something with the sense of action that this Darth Maul fan film had, but with an interesting story attached. I’d rather have a shorter action sequence amidst a compelling story, than a very large action sequence bookended by these framing devices that could have been developed into something more interesting.

And after a second pass. Not a big change, but still, every step counts.

dlvh said:

Darth Lucas,

What can your 2 pass system, do for this shot?

I wouldn’t call it much of a process. It’s basically me dropping it into photoshop and playing with the curves until the white levels look right, but:

Harmy said:

I’m simply saying, that just because this source fits what looks correct to you, doesn’t make it correct and that all other prints we’ve seen had the walls blue/green, so I don’t see what makes this one right, when it is the one that stands out among all the others.
And the JSC is definitelly red-shifted, as is the '93 THX master.

I’m not sure if this in reference to my prior posts or not. Either way I’ll address them as such. I certainly wasn’t saying these are perfectly correct. Only that if this is indeed a tech print, then there isn’t as much of a bias toward one particular color as there seems to be on other tech prints, and it backs up the idea that the walls should probably be less cyan/green than previously thought.
My personal belief is greyish with a subtle tone of cyan or blue depending on the shot.

I believe he’s using Harmy’s 97. There is a noticeable gate weave in the crawl of my version that makes it jump around somewhat distractingly from the starfield. I understand him using the 97 crawl as it’s a more pleasant casual viewing experience.

I’ve said it before, watch mine if 1981 accuracy means that much to you, but if you just want ANH in the crawl, go with Towne32’s.

And more often than not, a second pass helps:

There is also no such thing as a perfect reference. Every reference we can find could benefit from a little correction.

Original DrDre:

Corrected:

I actually do see a bit of red shifting. Nothing major, but it is there. You have to hunt for the red tones in the shadows to really see them.

The walls certainly shouldn’t be perfectly grey, but just much less green than I’ve seen lately. It should read as grey but have subtle cyan or blue tones depending on the scene, since, as we’ve established, the wall color is different from set to set.

Still, as far as faded prints go, this is in pretty damn good shape regardless of if it’s tech or not. I think it’s a good reference, but as I’ve stated before, there should never be a time when we’re trying to match ONE reference alone, but rather look for what is consistent between references and try to find a natural looking medium between them all.

I don’t think there is such a thing as a BAD reference. There are inaccurate references, but since they are all derived from a common ancestor, every reference we can get our hands on can tell us something about the original colors, even if the reference itself is wildly off. No such thing as too much information to draw from.

DrDre said:

OMG this is reference heaven!

In the category of things you’d never hear anywhere else. Haha

Totally possible, but I’m giving it the benefit of the doubt here.

And generally when they’re printed for that purpose, they’re selling individual frames instead of little segments.

Those grey Death Star walls make me happy. Justifies what I’ve been saying that they’re probably not as cyan/green as some people like to make them.

I wish somebody here had managed to get their hands on that print. Looks like the best print in terms of color I’ve seen, whether it’s tech or not.