Darth Lucas

DuracellEnergizer said:

Darth Lucas said:

I will agree that the duels in the PT may be more visually stimulating and appealing, but in terms of characterization and emotion, the OT duels are way ahead of anything in the PT.

I don’t see how Dooku and Hayden spinning coloured glowsticks above their heads in extreme closeup, CGI Yoda bouncing around like a constipated frog, CGI Palpatine leaping off the walls, or Obi-Wan and Hayden twirling their lightsabers around like synchronized baton twirlers could ever be considered visually stimulating, let alone appealing.

What I meant by that is just that they’re just more flashy. Visual stimulation with no substance. I’m not defending them. Quite the opposite.

Dek Rollins said:

Darth Lucas said:

Subtitle the sandpeople to make the whole scuffle with Luke a big misunderstanding.

Um…

SilverWook said:

Another feverish idea. The Sand People are actually nice and helpful, via subtitles. They only attack Luke because he doesn’t see the hideous thing that has crawled on his shoulder while he’s looking through the macrobinoculars.

(When they almost fire on the speeder.)
Hey! I’ll bet they’re looking for that Artoo unit we saw. I’ll get his attention.

You idiot! You might shoot his eye out! We’ll follow him.

(When the take off on their Banthas.)
Hi Ho! Jumbo! Away! (Feel free to suggest a better name for the Bantha.)

(When attacking Luke.)
Hold still! That thing is poisonous! I’ll get it!

(When ransacking the speeder)
Oh wow! Is he dead?

He’s just stunned. We should call his folks. There must be a phone number in here somewhere.

(Artoo hides behind an infinite number of rocks.)
Oh no! Mushsrooms!

(Obi Wan approaches yelling like a crazy person.)
It’s that crazy old hermit who doesn’t bathe! Run for your lives!

Sorry didn’t mean to rip anyone off lol. I don’t read through the ridiculous threads unless I have an idea and even then I usually just read the last couple posts before mine.

But hey great minds think alike. Frink should definitely do it now since two people separately thought it was a funny notion :p

mfastx said:

joefavs said:

I know opinions here vary wildly about JJ’s Trek films, but personally I thought they had the right idea as far as casting goes. None of the crew are actually doing impressions of the original characters (except Karl Urban), but most of them nail the vibe. That’s what I want from a Star Wars recasting, because even if whoever they got was absolutely dead on I’d never be fooled. They ought not try to disguise the fact that they have a new actor, because that’s never going to work.

But isn’t that different since that’s a reboot, not something that’s supposed to take place in an existing canon?

Star Trek 09 was also meant to fit into the existing Star Trek canon. Yeah it was a reboot, but it was done by means of time travel, so the characters are supposed to literally be the same people.

Figured I’d quickly throw together a mock up 3D conversion of a frame from Jedi. This was done extremely quickly with a VERY basic depth map, so it’s definitely not the best representation of what could be done with more work, but it should give you an idea. Take a look if you have RED/CYAN anaglyph glasses.

“Only a Sith deals in absolutes”

^ Funny because that is an absolute statement.

Subtitle the sandpeople to make the whole scuffle with Luke a big misunderstanding.

Ok, there was an issue with the encode that I have since solved. I am uploading the file to drive now.

I will agree that the duels in the PT may be more visually stimulating and appealing, but in terms of characterization and emotion, the OT duels are way ahead of anything in the PT.

Without any character development or emotion, the flashy fights become boring and moot.

If I can skip everything but the last minute of the fight and not miss anything important to the story, then it is a failure as a scene.

Scott109 said:

I find it extremely irritating when characters constantly pause in the middle of sword fights in order to speak. When characters focus more on speaking than on actually fighting, the duel becomes unrealistic. Anyone in a life-or-death duel who focuses more on speaking than on fighting frankly deserves to die.

Who cares if it’s realistic? It’s about drama and character development. If there’s no interaction between the characters then it’s just a meaningless, dragged out fight.

What’s great about the duels in the OT is that they weren’t just acrobatic fluff. They were about the characters and their conflicts. The talking is necessary because it adds drama.

If you were fighting with someone close to you and there was a lot of history and emotion behind the fight, you bet your ass you would be talking during the fight. It would be weird for them not to talk. Could you imagine if there was no talking at all during the ROTJ duel. You would lose so many great character moments and completely suck the drama out of it.

Character development is more important than flashy spectacle.

Hey, maybe if a future release renders the despecialized editions obsolete, your next project could be doing 3D conversions 😉

ray_afraid said:

^ Yes! I don’t wanna have to watch a kids show (a very silly one from what I’ve seen of it) to understand what’s supposed to be happening in a series of films.

The Clone Wars actually turned into a pretty interesting show. Got off to a rocky start, but developed nicely.

That being said, my original point still stands that it shouldn’t be required viewing. TV shows, comic books, novels, all that should be supplemental. You shouldn’t feel like you’re missing anything within the films themselves by avoiding them.

I think the guy is talented and at least somewhat resembles Ford. Some of the names being thrown around absolutely baffled me.

I’m much more concerned with what the story is going to be. I, like most, think this is a film that really doesn’t need to be made. However, if it’s done right, it could be interesting. I hope it’s not just a throwaway adventure that has no bearing on the character’s development.

As the new beginning of Solo’s character arc, they really need to do something to add to the character’s complexity, and not let it just be a cash grab adventure of the same old Han Solo from ANH.

I would prefer they do some story that involves telling us WHY he is so self centered in ANH. Why he shuts people out and doesn’t really care about anyone but he and chewie. A story like that would I think actually add something to the character and make the whole film not completely pointless.

I’m intrigued to see what they come up with. They’ve definitely got a lot of talent involved so I hope it turns out well.

Windows7Guy100 said:

Smithers said:

They never actually act like friends. Instead Anakin goes on about saving Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan denies it. They have the absolute worst on-screen chemistry of all time. ANH at least makes it seem like Vader and Obi-Wan really were good friends but the PT fails at actually showing it.

If you watch The Clone Wars animated series, you will see that they actually were good friends.

It doesn’t excuse how poorly the characters were handled in the film itself.

I shouldn’t have to wait years after the fact and then watch five seasons of a tv show just to understand the dynamic between characters that should have just been done better to begin with.

Towne32 has said before that he likes the colors of empire and Jedi and thinks their damn near perfect so I doubt he’d be jumping to cc them.

These samples are amazing. When they’re done I have a hard time imagining any fan project being better for me.

Scott109 said:

Darth Lucas said:

I did.

I know. It’s what you call “sarcasm”.

Okay I found a 35mm grain element that actually works within after effects. The grain was a bit to fine to match up with the grain where the splice is, so I enlarged it until it looked close. You can still see the static grain if you’re looking for it, but it doesn’t stand out as much now.

I am rendering now. I’ll take a look once it’s rendered to make sure nothing jumps out at me, and then I’ll upload it to google drive and post a link here.

Scott109 said:

It is still evident that they are friends from the scene in the elevator in Episode II,

This scene showcases Lucas’s inability to understand one of the fundamental ideas of filmmaking: show, don’t tell.

It isn’t effective to have them TALKING about adventures they had and what great friends they are. We need to see them actually acting like friends within the context of the film. One minute in the elevator at the very beginning where they might as well be looking into the camera and saying “Hey guys, we’re friends!” and then having them acting like a bitter couple the entire rest of the story does not work.

Smithers said:

TV’s Frink said:

Smithers said:

You really have musical timing down! Stay tuned, my music free tracks are coming along, you’ll be able to synchronize it to the original movie so you should be able to just drop it into your edit.

You magnificent bastard.

😃

I may do this for the PT as well if anyone wants me to

Yes. Yes. Yes. Please. I would kiss you if this wasn’t the Internet. You are the answer to an editors prayers.

LexX said:

I wanted to do my version of the TFA-style SW logo, feel free to use it. Not exactly on topic but still.

http://i.imgur.com/17OjE8b.jpg

Edit: what the hell, I made the sequels too. It was a fun image puzzle to make, although ROTJ was nearly impossible with its poster!

http://i.imgur.com/3huTDk0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nFPPnMj.jpg

Do you mind if I use these to update my ANH slipcover and create new ones for ESB and ROTJ? I think u got a closer TFA font and there’s no sense going through all the work to basically do the same thing with the SW logo if it’s already done.

I’ve been working on an updated 81 crawl which is just about finished. Just trying to find a 35mm grain element that actually works properly in after effects (all previous elements I’ve used just show up as just a blank, green screen even though they play find in QuickTime).

Once I have that all sorted out its just a matter of editing it into the film and then plugging away in encore to finish the disc.

Sounds good DrDre. Can’t wait.

Ok for possible names. Why not go simple and just call it Star Wars: Restored.

corellian77 said:

Sorry to see you leave the forum Ady, but to quote Obi-Wan, “You must do what you feel is right, of course.”

Given that Obi-Wan says that as a passive aggressive guilt trip, I’m not sure that’s the best quote to use. Lol

Nice to see you posting more 😃 I hope things are getting better in your personal life.

I look forward to seeing updates.

As for names, I suggest - Star Wars 35mm: The Poita No Return
Haha