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#489576
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Star Wars Trilogy: Hyperspace Collection - 720p AVCHD Project Complete and Now Available! See Post 42 for final details!
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This is my latest attempt at working with GOUT. The primary goal is to remaster the original theatrical trilogy in 720p AVCHD format.


Have you considered that by upscaling you're locking yourself down needlessly? A lot of TVs and media players out there that do some pretty damn good upscaling, and are always getting better, but if you've already upscaled the input, you rob them of the opportunity to do a possibly better job.

DE

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#489320
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Help: looking for... 1997 SE NTSC capture with bitperfect 5.1 audio
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My guess is that it would involve recording to a 48khz wav and renaming the file to ac3. Let me know if you have any pointers on how to start.


I can give you some, starting with "it's not quite that simple" ;)

The first time I captured raw AC3, that is how I did it - you can then save the recorded wav as raw audio, but it will include padding - 0 byte sequences spacing out the real AC3 frames, because an AC3 track doesn't fill a PCM track.

You may also find that the recording skips sometimes, and AC3 frames may get chopped in half, and so on... last time I did a capture I bodged together a program that recorded and validated the AC3 stream as it captured, so if it went wrong it would tell me and I could start again.

For capture, ideally I think it works best using a separate optical/USB box, so you know there's no messing around that can occur with a full soundcard.

I'm sure someone out there still has my AC3 files - and if they don't, I'll probably capture them again one day.

Once you've got the AC3 frames packed together in the file, you can just join the files together and they should decode okay.

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#472549
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Kamyio's Anagyph and Stereoscopic 3D Star Wars IV Conversion [updated 2.9.11] + Sample Video Now Available (* unfinished project *)
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Kamyio, are you aware of the Pulfrich effect? What you're doing with the red/cyan overlays can be simulated psychovisually by wearing a pair of "half-shades" - putting a dark filter over one eye (you can even experience the effect simply by squinting one eye) and watching any normal movie.

The brain processes the dark image more slowly, so your brain ends up combining, say, frame 1000 from the left eye against frame 1001 from the right eye. The beauty of this system is that you don't have to worry about colour filters or compression artefacts - in fact, you needn't do anything to the movie at all.

I don't think anyone's expecting you to turn Star Wars into an Avatar-like 3D experience, and I salute your enthusiasm for trying something different, but I just really don't see how it could work. For every shot where a lightsabre swings out of the screen towards you, there'll be another where it cuts back into the background, ruining the 3D effect.

but I am researching to find the answers on what older 3D movie production companies did.


If you're referring to previous waves of 3D-mania (in the 50s and 80s), they shot them stereoscopically, just like a modern 3D movie, but with more giant ants and less smurfs.

PS I think the red problem with the uploaded video is probably down to compression - red is easy to sacrifice because it's normally not so important to vision. Green, on the other hand, is the most significant colour, so it will be preserved more accurately. A side-by-side YouTube video with the 3D flag would solve that.

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#472106
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Kamyio's Anagyph and Stereoscopic 3D Star Wars IV Conversion [updated 2.9.11] + Sample Video Now Available (* unfinished project *)
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Oh hey, Kamyio, I didn't mean to suggest that you'd constructed the images separately - just that this it was the process you're using has effectively done. I do understand the effect you're achieving (at least as well as I can from those screenshots), I just disagree that such a technique actually works as 3D at all. For instance, how well does it work a few frames later in the training scene, when Luke's hands and the training ball are moving in the opposite direction?

It just seems to me that it's a bit like painting random colours over a greyscale image and calling it colourised... sometimes it might just work (I know there are some shots during the Bespin escape in ESB that can work under the Pulfrich effect) but most of the time it won't, unless the footage has been specifically shot to take advantage of it (as the BBC did once years ago).

But anyway, did you know you can upload 3D videos (side-by-side) to Youtube and viewers can view them with different methods (different anaglyph colours, side-by-side, etc)?

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#471939
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Kamyio's Anagyph and Stereoscopic 3D Star Wars IV Conversion [updated 2.9.11] + Sample Video Now Available (* unfinished project *)
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This last screen is what I am most proud of, when you're wearing your 3D glasses everything pops and really has depth to it.


I don't want to rain on your parade, but... okay, the remote sticks out a bit, as does Luke's arm, but everything else, including the console in the foreground, is at exactly the same depth.

This is just nice crips letters floating through space. Classic.


Floating at the same depth as the stars with no recession into the background - it looks like the two images are identical and just offset.

As for the explosion and training images, as far as I can tell you've just taken adjacent frames, offset them slightly, and channel-mixed them to red and cyan. Such a technique might give you a hint of a 3D effect in, say, one scene out of ten, but for the vast majority of the film your brain's just going to be confused.

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#465898
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Wikipedia: List of changes in Star Wars re-releases - errors?
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List of changes in Star Wars re-releases

I've been looking at the page above, and, particularly in the Special Edition sections, there seem to be some errors, so I thought I'd post them here to see if anyone can put either me, or the article, right:

New aliens are seen in the Cantina, and the Cantina music is played at a higher pitch and tempo.


Has someone just compared a PAL edition and an NTSC edition?

When Lando contacts Lobot, it is done silently rather than Lando sending a codeword.


What codeword?

And, possibly missing from the ROTJ section, doesn't the skiff that Han gets thrown from now rotate as well as tip, in the SE?

In the 2004 DVD section:

More debris has been digitally added to the scene at the destroyed Jawa sandcrawler.


I looked for this months ago and could see no difference - am I missing something?

The dialogue spoken by Jabba the Hutt in the scene where he is discussing the price for Chewbacca that had the subtitles added in the 1997 Special Edition has the subtitles removed, making C-3PO's verbal translations in the scene relevant again.


Were these ever really added to the SE? It's not mentioned in the SE section.

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#465597
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Jaitea said:


No, no, I actually think that the music that Mr Williams composed for the prequels is very good........it's just that his style has changed especially when contrasted to his 70's work....it doesn't blend.

J


Isn't it also the case (I may have imagined this bit) that the prequels were (re-)edited after the music was composed and recorded, unlike the original trilogy, where the music was recorded after the edit was complete?

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#462754
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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At least not until some sort of black magic-like software comes available that will allow us to combine the LD captures together (XØ and Japanese DefCol) that I spent hours pouring over, manually IVTCing, matching up frame for frame, and noting where any and all frame differences occured.


Zion, can you give any more detail as to what such a piece of software would specifically need to do?

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#454186
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1984 A New Hope Project (* unfinished project *)
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none said:


Sounds like phun, looking forward to seeing what's been done.  Could you provide any information on these 'new scripts'?  curious how they work.


I'm guessing it's like some others I've seen, which are basically just an automatic Pulfrich effect ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulfrich_effect ) and look, err, not great.

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#448201
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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We get the name anakin in ROTJ.


I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I've recently thought that Ben says "Annie was a good friend." in ANH - not "and he" as I thought before - which would make ANH the first mention of Skywalker Sr's (nick)name. You could argue it was poorly pronounced, but it was Alec Guiness!

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#447751
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Info Wanted: Some questions about converting vinyl records to digital....
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JediTray said:


I would say it's impossible.  Mainly due to the nuances of vinyl, the differences exhibited by the turntable's motor, and pitch control.  It would be a nightmare to sync multiple passes.

At least, that's my 2 credits on it.


That's what I thought when I started on my SACD project. Admittedly, it wasn't as simple as dropping each recording into a multitrack editor...

Want to upload a couple of small uncompressed (or FLACd) samples (10s or so) to see what I can do with it?

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#447740
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Info Wanted: Some questions about converting vinyl records to digital....
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Hey, just sticking my nose in on a thread I haven't really paid any attention to... is there any mileage in making several recordings and averaging them to reduce noise, or is this kind of noise often the same each time?

The major problem would be syncing the recordings, but from my experience of making and syncing multiple stereo recordings of an SACD to capture all the channels, it could be possible.

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#443600
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Star Wars OT &amp; 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released)
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But if you are using an upscale player, and at that one that is not super cheap (Bluray or quality DVD player), then you set the mode to regular or full or whatever it is and set it to 1:1 pixel map (on the TV), and the player itself determines the signal to send via the control menu of the player.


And the upscaling player, if it is correctly following the rules here, will upscale the central 704x480(/576) window to 1920x1080, and send that to the TV.

As to your "edited" point, that "junk" on some DVDs is actual picture information on some DVDs, and it is not overscanned if your setup is configured properly.


Overscan is not the same as nominal analogue blanking. NAB should always always be ignored (i.e. treated as junk), and not factored in when calculating ARs.

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#440402
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.: LeeThorogood's PAL LaserDisc Preservation Project :. - '97 SE Finished '95 THX Finished - '97 SE Uploaded '95 THX Uploaded to the newsgroup
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LeeThorogood said:

Just out of curiosity is the 5.1 AC-3 audio 29.97 or 23.98fps? Just wondering if I would need to IVTC the audio before adjusting the frame-rate/speed to match PAL.


There's no distinction - it's AC3 audio that runs for the length of the movie, whether the video is 23.976fps progressive or 29.97fps telecined (AC3 itself is made of "frames", and IIRC runs at 32fps).

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#439697
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Laserdisc revived - pics added - Japan Definitive Collection &amp; Special Collection (WIP)
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ChainsawAsh said:


What you're talking about is basically taking 3 different captures of the same source, then lining them up together and running them through a program that removes things that are different between each capture.  This reduces problems caused by capturing an analog medium.

I believe this can be done in AviSynth.


That sounds like the Toot (Two Out Of Three) filter.

DE