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#206745
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ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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For the 2004 dvds, did they not restore the original film elements first, and then made changes like the "color correction" and CGI additions?


I'm sure someone will have a real answer for you, but as I noted in my ANH thread, if you watch the transition into the Jabba scene on the 2004 DVD, you can actually see, briefly, elements of the 1997 SE Jabba.

Not that it would take a massive amount of work to restore the bits they didn't restore to the same level, and splice them in, but does anyone really think that will happen?

DE
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#206722
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206722/action/topic#206722
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The only I was considering touching is the one that disappears before the gang meet Vader, but maybe I could do something with the others. I won't replace them entirely (it would be too time consuming and wouldn't look good, and I don't want to use any lower quality footage from the pre-SEs) but I might take some of the saturation out and lower the contrast to bring the eye back to the foreground.

I don't want to post a list of changes yet, mainly because I'm still not sure exactly what I'm going to change.

DE
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#206647
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/206647/action/topic#206647
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Originally posted by: Litter
6. Yake out the SE podcar flying through cloud city just prior to showing Leia inside her quarters.

Whats wrong with that shot? DE....you should leave that in......Please?


It's horrifically superfluous, and serves no purpose other than to say "look! more special bits that weren't there the first time!" The same could be said for some of the shots of the Falcon flying through Cloud City.

he left in the rickety stop motion tauntauns that look like they came out of a 50's Sinbad movie.


I like the Taun-Tauns the way they are. It's all part of the 80s look and feel.

DE
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#205183
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/205183/action/topic#205183
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I was thinking I'd start by making the bugfix release available via FTP to a few people, who could then go on to seed to Demonoid/MySpleen, etc (the main reason for this is that I have no idea how to seed!).

So, when I've got my new PC, I'll put an FTP server on it and dish out the details to Savage and anyone else who's interested (including those who can PIF by mail and however else).

DE
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#204837
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204837/action/topic#204837
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he'd still have to motion-track them to match the shot, which would require very much ridiculous work.


2D motion tracking is a cinch, but 3D is beyond me, so that shot from Luke's speeder would be out. I could add walkers in simpler shots, but then they would be inconsistent with the more complex ones where I wouldn't be able to add walkers.
Lightsabres... to be honest I haven't found them to be a massive problem in ESB. So far all I've done is extend Vader's lightsabre so that it actually slices through Luke's wrist, and made Luke's retract rather than fade as he drops it.
Boba Fett will, of course, be returned to his original voice.

To repeat a request from the ANH thread, does anyone have the Laserdisc soundtrack of ESB (preferably the SE) in AC3? I just need the bit where Luke says "You're lucky you don't taste [so|too] good" to Artoo.

DE
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#204615
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204615/action/topic#204615
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Here's a new thread to discuss my ongoing re-edit of ESB, in much the same style as my already completed edit of ANH.

Continuing the discussion that began in that thread:

2. If possible, a larger walker attack. Can you do comps Editous?

Another interesting idea, but it's not a necessary "correction" and unless I could do it perfectly, I wouldn't even begin to contemplate doing such a thing.

3. Recomp that shot where the rebel transports are in the background and Joe Johnston talks about the shield to a rebel officer.

Not sure how I'd go about it, but it is a dodgy shot.

4. Restore the "bring my shuttle" line of Vader
5. Take out following SE shot of shuttle on landing pad.
6. Yake out the SE podcar flying through cloud city just prior to showing Leia inside her quarters.
7. Take out Vader landing aboard death st....uhh, star destroyer at the end.
8. Take out shot of Vader's shuttle leaving bespin

The first three, yes, the last two, maybe, if the soundtrack can take it.

9. Take out the elevator moving up in the window shot at could city as Lando takes Han/Leia to dinner, but leave other part of matte vista.


Hmm, that's another slightly dodgy shot... I'll think about it. I'm more concerned with the amount of work I'll have to do putting in that window out just before they find Vader.

10.put back in "lucky you don't taste very good." Luke to R2.


Ah, nuts... I forgot to grab that piece of audio when I was grabbing Boba Fett's lines from my NTSC Laserdiscs. Does anyone have the ESB soundtrack in AC3 with that line included?

(picture of Wampa's arm with puppeteer's arm showing)

Fix this please!!


Already done

DE
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#204460
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204460/action/topic#204460
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1. Fireball when the Probe droid crashes into the planet is either too small or moves too fast to look like the probe.

Always looked okay to me... I think it's fairly iconic shot and I don't want to mess with it too much (although I have done, since there is another problem with the sequence...)

2. I can't stand how different the new Wampa looks from the old one. I would suggest removing the new Wampa all together.

I wasn't going to, but maybe I should. There is something incongruous about those new shots.

3. The sound of Luke shutting off his lightsaber right after the Wampa scene, but the lightsaber stays on.


Waaaay ahead of you on that one

4. When the fallen AT-AT gets blown up, the chunks falling into the snow and the way the snow reacts makes it look lika a minature. Maybe slow the falling chunks part down?


To do so and keep the rest of the shot together would take too much work, and it's never looked wrong to me.

just some suggestions.

-G


Thanks! Keep 'em coming!

DE
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#204115
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/204115/action/topic#204115
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Also the music doesn't quite keep the beat after the deletion of the Ronto/Jawa scene, did you tinker with this further?


I haven't gone back to that in the bugfix release. I did stretch and copy bits of the soundtrack around it to get it sounding as it does, and I've gotten used to it the way it is so I probably won't alter it.

DE
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#202807
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202807/action/topic#202807
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Originally posted by: g-force
DE,

is there any way to get just the bug fixes in DVD quality, so we can update our DVD copies?

-G


Just the bugfixes? I guess that's doable... you'd need something like Womble to splice them into your copies (and I'd need something to extract to the MPEG from my encode), and that may not be entirely lossless. Any new DVD I build will also be encoded by a newer MPEG encoder so you might prefer to get the whole thing, if and when it becomes available. I might also redo the insertion to remove the MJPEG step by using AviSynth (now that I've got a workaround for the stupid dark MJPEG bug), marginally improving picture quality.

I'm a little jiggy about introducing more and more different revisions of my edits, too (even bit-different splices like this, even though they'd view the same), though of course I'll always maintain that you're as free to edit them as I am to edit Lucasfilm property

DE
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#202412
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202412/action/topic#202412
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*fanfare!*

I'll shortly be releasing an XVID single CD version of ANH. Not only will this mean more people can get their grubby little protuberances* on the edit, but it's also a "bug-fix" release:

1. The transition over the cut Jabba scene has been improved. The slow-down has been properly retimed instead of the crappy mix effect that exists in DE-ANH20050525N/P.
2. The iris wipe to the credits has had it's one misplaced frame fixed.
3. Greedo's subtitles have been moved up fully into the picture (this will also be the case for any future DVD releases - there isn't enough room to put them completely outside the picture on DVD).

The audio on this release will be a 2 channel surround** downmix of the DVD audio.

For distribution, I thought I might try an FTP version of pay-it-forward - I'll open an FTP server to 2 or 3 people if they can pay forward either by FTP, Bittorrent, or mail. If it works well, I might try it for future DVD releases too.

DE

*50 Quatloos to the one who identifies this non-Star Wars reference!
**although MP3ing it might destroy the surround information - anyone know?
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#202068
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/202068/action/topic#202068
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Originally posted by: BountyHunter
So if DE is editing the last scene in ESB, is it safe to assume that he is almost done?


Good grief, no. I've only almost finished editing the most difficult bit, the Emperor scene. I've only done about 12 things from a list of more than 100, but once I've got the Emperor out of the way the rest should be a lot quicker.

DE
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#200824
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200824/action/topic#200824
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Looking at the listed size of the last *.vob file, it looks more like the PAL version to me but the size does not exactly match my (original) copy!!


I'm not sure how you tell from the size of a VOB file whether it's NTSC or PAL! Both were encoded to make the most of the disc space, so if it doesn't match the PAL disc I guess it must be NTSC - I don't have my ISOs here to compare. Then again, it could be down to rounding errors or what size kilobytes and megabytes are today.

If Wesyeed had uploaded the JPEG we'd know from its filename

DE
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#200771
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200771/action/topic#200771
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In case anyone's wondering, it is a rule that there should be no links to torrents of full edits.

But thanks Wesyeed for putting that up - I expect you'll be bombarded with PMs now!

You weren't to know, but if anyone else puts up a torrent, could you include the serial number in the torrent filename? It's DE-ANH20050525P for PAL and DE-ANH20050525N for NTSC. I don't know if you can edit the description just to include PAL or NTSC, whichever it is.

Is it a complete image of the DVD, including the JPEG disc label?

DE
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#200353
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200353/action/topic#200353
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
I wonder if anyone captured the trilogy, that would be a kick ass thing to preserve. And is ANH on myspleen??


Unfortunately (by most peoples' standards) it was the SE. But it has its uses.

As for ANH, I've no idea if it's on my myspleen. If it is, I didn't put it there. I was kinda hoping someone would have put it there by now...

DE
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#200134
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/200134/action/topic#200134
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
holy crap what transfer did you get that from. It's in great DVD quality


I wonder if was from that German digital satellite broadcast, the same place we got the great quality Shaw-as-Anakin clip. It's not quite DVD quality, and the aspect ratio is different, but it looks too good to be Laserdisc (unless it's from XØ!).

Anyway, back to ESB - I've been playing around with the Emperor scene and getting some great results, and now I've just had one of those serendipitous discoveries that make this stuff so interesting. I had a quick look at ADM's edit of the scene, and it's a great job, but with my latest discovery I think I can get a lot closer to emulating the OOT in this scene - practically shot for shot (except they swapped a mid-shot of Vader for a close-up at one point, and I'll probably keep that change).

DE
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#199486
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/199486/action/topic#199486
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
Just stirring the pot a little...

Anything I can do to help on any of these?


Thanks for the offer, but I think I've got everything I need now. If anything else comes up, I'll post!

If anyone's at a loose end, you could send me your impersonations of Ian McDiarmid saying "Luke..." to match the "young Skywalker" line

DE
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#198731
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/198731/action/topic#198731
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Made this to celebrate this brilliant fan-producton, too excellent to be called a fan-edit imo.

I'd actually seen that before while Googling my name

I beg you, don't give up editous! I'll find this plate thing for you no matter what!


You can all relax, the search is over - thanks to Sluggo's keen eyes and some judicious use of Winmorph and PTAssembler I have the plate I've been after!

To those who've PMd/emailed me recently - please feel free to post a request for a copy in this thread - I endorse the PIF scheme

DE