Darth Editous

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Post: #214560
Topic: Info Wanted: How is there Anamorphic Fan Edits but not Lucasfilm OT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214560/action/topic#214560
Time: 29-May-2006 7:29 AM

as the scaling is better than your TV could manage in real time

CRT televisions (which still have the best SD picture quality IMO) don't scale anything. I made an anamorphic version of my non-anamorphic Dark City DVD because I could see the gaps between scanlines.

DE

Post: #214374
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214374/action/topic#214374
Time: 28-May-2006 7:49 AM

I'll look into the lightsabres, although redoing lightsabres is subjective at best. I've previously limited myself to just a few frames when needed because each frame needs to be individually considered. You can't just apply the same glows and shapes to each frame, because then you lose the fairly iconic flickering.

Perhaps taking Fett's line from the '97 SE would work here to make it flow correctly?

I will be using the SE Laserdisc as my replacement audio source. ADM sent me OCP's edits but I haven't got around to watching them. I'm editing the full 5.1 channel mix so in most cases the music can go almost untouched when I replace dialogue.

DE

Post: #212624
Topic: Info & Offer: I have Star Wars SEs on Digi Betacam tape, you want my dvd tranfers?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212624/action/topic#212624
Time: 23-May-2006 3:03 PM

Could we have some screenshots from those who've got the download?

DE

Post: #212338
Topic: Idea: Combine some prints with color from LD !
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212338/action/topic#212338
Time: 22-May-2006 3:33 PM

I don't know how film degrades, but if the film has faded, how can you be sure of getting a reliable luminance signal out of it?

You'll also need to spend time getting the two sets of data to overlap, which will probably mean registering and changing the geometry of the images (I believe OCP had to apply lens distortions to make his editions).

Since colour resolution doesn't need to be as high as luminance, maybe you get a decent result.

Maybe you do, but the real problem with composite video is the chroma signal. If anything needs to be replaced, it's that. I really doubt that a new luma channel is going to make much of a difference.

DE

Post: #212276
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212276/action/topic#212276
Time: 22-May-2006 7:43 AM

Not so sure if it would be easy to do though, although i'd imagine morphing between frames would possibly be the easiest - i may be wrong though, just an idea.

I'm afraid you are wrong

I put one shot through a retimer and then motion blurred it - there wasn't much difference. The "problem" with the Taun Taun is that it doesn't quite move naturally, which no amount of interpolation will fix.

But, as I think I said before, I think it's part of the charm of the film and I won't be making any change to it.

DE

Post: #211210
Topic: .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211210/action/topic#211210
Time: 18-May-2006 7:21 PM

One thing that people frequently forget about DVD is that it's lossy compressed video.

Composite analogue video, as present on laserdisc, is also a form of lossy compression, and worse than MPEG2 to my mind. I'd take a well-encoded DVD over a well-pressed laserdisc any day (assuming otherwise identical content).

DE

Post: #209474
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209474/action/topic#209474
Time: 14-May-2006 4:18 PM

If I've done it right, an XVID of "version 2" (DE-ANH20060510X) should now be available as a torrent from Demonoid (as per the rules, no direct link, but just register and search).

DE

Post: #209469
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209469/action/topic#209469
Time: 14-May-2006 3:53 PM

I've uploaded a slightly more compressed version:

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1655/deanh20050525n3fz.jpg

The original filename should be DE-ANH20050525N.jpg but it got changed during upload. If you've downloaded the torrent from Demonoid and want to distribute discs, please add the file to the root of the disc.

DE

Post: #209448
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209448/action/topic#209448
Time: 14-May-2006 1:19 PM

Anyone know an image host that will take a 1.5mb file without requiring registration?

DE

Post: #209234
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209234/action/topic#209234
Time: 13-May-2006 5:47 PM

If it's still like that on the DVD, is it an easy fix to flip it?

Lucasfilm fixed that for the DVDs.

Shouldn't Clive Revill be left in the credits somehow?

He's not in the movie any more... besides, I pasted Ian McDiarmid's name over his. I'd have to jiggle the whole credits around to add another name.

DE

Post: #209214
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209214/action/topic#209214
Time: 13-May-2006 3:18 PM

You're insane. I mean that in the nicest way possible, of course.

I've now seen sense and decided against it. 500+ frames that are so badly coloured you can't really tell the lightsabre's wrong...

There's one piece of "official" artwork, which is the disc label that should have been (but wasn't) included in the torrent. If someone could tell me the filesize of the JPEG I put on the disc, I'll upload the right quality version so anyone getting the torrent will have the same file.

DE

Post: #208960
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208960/action/topic#208960
Time: 12-May-2006 12:29 PM

Okay, this weekend I'm going to recolour Luke's lightsabre in the other shots aboard the Falcon. Then, finally, I may sign off on it and upload (at least) an XVID version.

DE

Post: #208507
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208507/action/topic#208507
Time: 11-May-2006 6:19 AM

Two more bugs squished:

- As Obi-Wan confronts Vader, the left hand side of the picture is bluey-green (possibly not noticeable on a TV).
- Vader's lightsabre loses it's glow at the top of frame for a couple of frames.

DE

Post: #208210
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208210/action/topic#208210
Time: 10-May-2006 1:17 PM

So be it

Creepy... I read/heard that in Palpatine's voice...

Are you going to tone down Artoo in space? In some shots of the edits I have, he's practically glowing. That's the only other thing that comes to mind.

After noting that "R2 not blue in space" for ANH (and not being able to do anything about it, really) my ESB list notes that "R2 TOO blue in space"

Post: #208200
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208200/action/topic#208200
Time: 10-May-2006 12:45 PM

Originally posted by: Klingon_Jedi
Can you still at least desaturate the windows? If not, oh well I guess.

I don't know if it's just because I've been looking at it for too long on a laptop screen instead of a TV, but I can't see that it needs a fix.

Any idea if the Falcon's shadow is do-able?

I won't try to reshape it, but I might blur it. At the moment it's a perfectly sharp disc.

DE

Post: #208127
Topic: Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208127/action/topic#208127
Time: 10-May-2006 5:30 AM

yes but they were 1080i which is interlaced not 1080p which is progressive which the new back to the future releases will most likely have.

I thought there was only 720p, not 1080p. Besides, at 1080i, film based material will effectively be 1080p anyway. The signal your SD TV receives from your DVD player is 480/576i but since both fields come from the same frame, you're basically getting 25 576p frames per second (albeit with a little bit of shimmer, which is down to the display, not the source).

DE

Post: #207662
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207662/action/topic#207662
Time: 8-May-2006 6:45 PM

I was actually thinking of the Sandtrooper scene, but those are interesting points as well.

The only difference between the OOT and DE-ANH in the Sandtrooper scene is that the Dewback roars, isn't it? Or were you referring to the Ronto right before the ID scene? Yes, I'd replace that in a heartbeat - but only if it's a good match for the 2004/6 DVDs.

DE

Post: #207562
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207562/action/topic#207562
Time: 8-May-2006 12:54 PM

Will you be using the new O-OT disc to restore original shots and sequences altogether now?

Only if it's exactly as good as the 2004/6 OT. Which it might just be, after the quote someone dug up on another thread. But I wouldn't, for example, replace that Ronto shot with the original shot with the vaseline blur under the speeder. I would consider things like putting back the old shot of Ben's hut, though.

DE

Post: #207561
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207561/action/topic#207561
Time: 8-May-2006 12:50 PM

What do you mean by background? The rocks? Those TIEs could do with a bit of colour taken out of them, but other than that I can't see much that's worse than the rest of the 1980s SFX.

DE

Post: #207525
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode V DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a work in progress
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207525/action/topic#207525
Time: 8-May-2006 6:38 AM

I've gone over it again, and the new Cloud City stuff stays. I just don't know what I'm going to do about that disappearing window.

Just to whet your appetites, here's what I've done so far:

The probe now crashes consistently from the same direction in each shot (and the macrobinocular shot was flopped)
Removed the pink wampa glove (see above screenshot)
Turned Luke's lightsabre off in time with the sound
Removed a stick that comes up to push over an AT-AT, and a strange shadow that flitters over the background AT-AT
Removed a linear feature in Hoth's atmosphere as Luke flies away
Stabilised R2's text on the X-Wing console
Stopped Han miming Leia's "...being held by you..." line
Removed Vader's unlit lightsabre just before he ignites it
Removed evidence of a crewmember taking Luke's lightsabre prop from him
Removed Luke's head bouncing back up after he hits a trampoline off screen
Fixed a jump cut as a gate shuts behind Luke
Painted in Luke's lightsabre so it doesn't appear to hit Vader's neck (sparks fly from Vader's shoulder)
Extended Vader's lightsabre so it slices through Luke's wrist instead of just missing
Luke's lightsabre now retracts instead of fading away
Fixed garbage mattes around TIE fighters
R2 now doesn't bounce when he falls in the hole in the Falcon's floor - he just disappears straight down
Fixed a stalling/disappearing X-Wing in one of the final shots of the fleet
Fixed credits: Ian McDiarmid replaces Clive Revill, and Christopher Malcolm and Denis Lawson are now spelled correctly

DE

Post: #207520
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207520/action/topic#207520
Time: 8-May-2006 6:04 AM

Originally posted by: Litter
Actutally I thought since there was plenty on background in the shot, that the Ronto could be removed all together. Hey, I'm not an editor so I don't know what can or cannot be done.

Palpy: "Can it be done?"

Well, I guess it could be. Replacing the background would be fairly easy (there are some perspective changes but that can be taken care of), but the real problem would be painting in the speeder. It was tricky enough when I removed the very skinny and full-of-holes droid at the front of the Mos Eisley sequence. The speeder is hidden for a good few frames and changes angle to the camera.

DE....I've had your disc spinning on repeat all day. Top notch job overall.

Post: #207326
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207326/action/topic#207326
Time: 7-May-2006 7:10 PM

what other tweaks have you made to the new version?

That's all I've changed.

(deleted stuff that belongs in the ESB thread)

DE

Post: #207296
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207296/action/topic#207296
Time: 7-May-2006 4:46 PM

Originally posted by: Litter
Yeah. I know you have a life too.

Err... yeeeess...

Here you have a nice crisp looking speeder....with this horrible cgi ronto. It ruins the shot imo.

Well, to be fair, the speeder is nice and crisp because it's really there (and the camera's panning with it), and the CGI is 10 years old (and if they redid it today we'd start complaining about 10 years from now about the horrible CGI Ronto). It's best left in than attempting to do anything with it.

DE

Post: #207255
Topic: ***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207255/action/topic#207255
Time: 7-May-2006 2:19 PM

Savage, there's a full list of changes on page 1 of this thread... happy reading!

Litter:

1. Luke's lightsabre - yeah, it does look pretty crappy, but it's a lot of work and if I change it in that shot, I'd have a hard time excusing myself from changing it in every other shot. I might go back and tweak the colours (that screenshot you posted still looks a bit green), but the colours are so off anyway there doesn't seem to be much point.

2. I can sort of see your point, but I'm not convinced the film's been sped up. I think it's just a couple of smokey flashes coupled with some whippy camera work.

3. Unfortunately the only thing I could replace it with (currently) would be a Laserdisc capture, and I decided at the start that I wouldn't use any lower-quality elements (the only exception will be Sebastian Shaw at the end of RoTJ). Perhaps when the new DVDs come out I'll take another look.

DE

Post: #207127
Topic: Info: The LID Project: Laserdisc is dead.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/207127/action/topic#207127
Time: 6-May-2006 7:53 PM

Originally posted by: Grinder
If you're going for the best quality, don't even think about buying the NTSC DVD's. On top of that, the vertical resolution of LD is 480 for NTSC and 576 for PAL (same as DVD)

To the best of my knowledge, there hasn't been an anamorphic Laserdisc release - therefore the DVD release will have 1.33x the vertical resolution (360 DVD lines after letterboxing v. 270 Laserdisc, or 432 v. 324 for PAL).

If your destination is NTSC, you probably should stick with the NTSC release. You won't have to resize the video and you won't have to resample the audio.

it only differs horizontally.

LD being an analogue format (or is it a digitised representation of an analogue signal? I can never remember), it doesn't have a real horizontal resolution, as I was given to understand it. Of course, there is a limit to the amount of information per line, and it's not as good as DVD.

DE