DarkFather

He looks like he's interested in killing all of the Ewoks. Kind of dampens the effect of Anakin's redemption.

Different views can be cool and refreshing, and I'm a relatively open person. That said, your view consists of "No, that's not like the OT just because I don't think it is. And I'm not going to acknowledge any glaring, objective similarities that make the series what it is."

Good to see that you've finally conceded, though.

That dictionary definition is no help to the discussion

You mean it's of no help to your case.

because it only gives a very bare interpretation of the word. In the real world "reminiscent" is used a variety of ways. In the way I'm using it I'm not talking about "oh here's a star destroyer that reminds me of the OT", I'm talking about the overall nature of the show and whether THAT is reminiscent of the OT. Which is the only meaningful sort of being reminiscent to discuss here. Who cares about little details, it's the overall nature of the thing that matters. And the overall nature of the show is NOT reminiscent of the OT. So the show is not reminiscent of the OT in any way that counts.

They aren't "little details", they're heavily reoccuring visuals in the series.

To imply that visuals aren't truly important is truly ludicrous.

Here's another to stew on: the Republic clones mounting attacks on Separatist ships is very reminiscent of the Battle of Yavin, in ways that the prequel "dogfights" never could be.

As such you can have all the star destroyers in common with the OT that you like but the show is still not meaningfully reminiscent of the OT. And the picture of a star destroyer certainly did not prove it was meaningfully reminiscent.

Continuing to deny that the striking similarities are meaningful is a type of stubborness that will quickly rob your opinion of any credibility it once had.

And I shouldn't have had to explain all that to you.

Don't make me laugh. ;)

I said it was not reminiscent of the OT. There's a difference.

No. There isn't. If something is reminiscent of something else, it has something in common with what it's reminiscent of.

Your picture did not prove it was reminsicent of the OT

Yes. It did.

The picture contains things specifically and distinctively in common with ESB especially.

rem·i·nis·cent (rm-nsnt)

Oh there you are being offensive again. Why do you have to keep doing that? Why you keep getting aggressive and/or personal? Why can't you just accept somebody disagrees with you without having to diss them?

I'm not being the least bit offensive.

You said the series had nothing in common with the OT after I showed you the picture that proved it very plainly does. Whether it's cosmetic or not is completely immaterial. It still functions to render your statement false, so stop repeating it.

In what ways is there nothing really reminiscent of the OT? Even though I just showed you that pic. At least elaborate, or it's going to obvious to everyone you're just talking to be talking, disagreeing to be disagreeing.

Really.

Inside of a Star Destroyer:

I think if you're a big OT fan like myself, auraloffalwaffle, you'll enjoy it. I think this animated series is more along the lines of what the prequels needed to have been. The animation is unique yet good, the voice actors better than any of the acting in the PT, and the stories are pretty engaging. I definitely recommend it.

devils_syndicate said:

http://www.starwars.com/movies/saga/20080826news.html

 

Returning to store shelves on November 4th are the six episodes of the Star Wars saga on DVD bundled in convenient trilogy sets. Perfect for gift-giving as the holidays approach, the Prequel Trilogy set includes Episodes I-III, while the Star Wars Trilogy includes Episodes IV-VI.

Fans who already own the prequel trilogy double-disc releases (released from 2001-2005) and the Star Wars trilogy double-disc releases (released in 2006) already have all the content that's available in this set. There's nothing new in this set you don't already have. But for friends and family still looking to fill in these gaps in their DVD collections, these sets make it easy and affordable to complete the saga.

 

 

 I actually like these covers, they did a good job this time.

If Anakin had been allowed to visit his mother and keep better track of her, I doubt he would have ever turned to the dark side. The only reason he reacted so desperately in reaction to the premonitions he was having about Padme's childbirth death, was because he already had the experience of forseeing his mother's death, which came true.

I guess the Jedi went way out of their way to make sure Anakin never maintained emotional attachments, and were afraid that if he saw his mother, all of their work in training him would be undone.

I always thought it would have been an interesting twist in ROTJ to make Han a Jedi, or the offspring of a Jedi. Maybe he took on a new identity and became a smuggler to put his old life behind him.

I would've rather have seen Han be the one Yoda was referring to in ESB when he said "No, there is another."

The pack dynamics on this forum aren't near as bad as most forums I've been to, actually. Most people here are remarkably reasonable, even to those they disagree with.

I wonder how you presented yourself when asking for SW:R.

Download multiple torrents of the same thing. As long as whatever you're trying to download isn't too obscure, you'll get it eventually.

My dad urged me to come see the 1997 re-release of Star Wars. He liked the original, while having no interest in ESB or ROTJ.

So I figured I’d give this Star Wars thing a go, and went to a used comic, video game, movie, and book store to look for the movies. They had a lot of Star Wars books, which I wasn’t really interested in. The only Star Wars movie they had was the original, on an old VHS. I bought if for $8, took it home, and popped it in. The picture quality was relatively poor, and there were no updated special effects. It was charmingly crappy to me.

I’d watched every movie in my collection dozens and dozens of times to the point of memorizing every line of dialogue. Why should Star Wars be any different? I followed my natural inclination to watch it repeatedly.

Having little money, there was no chance back then to buy any more Star Wars movies, so that was the only one I had.

Needless to say, I fell in love with it. Later when I did buy the VHS pack for the Special Editions, something was missing. It wasn’t quite as magical as the original. Another problem I had with that pack was that ESB and ROTJ felt like unnecessary continuations of the first. They were newer, updated, but were somehow empty when set beside my single, old VHS copy.

That, my friends, is how a certain fan that wasn’t even alive in 1977 arrived at the same mindset most posters on this forum are at.

So what’s your story?

My best friend said ROTS was his favorite Star Wars film right after he got out of the theater.

A couple of years later he started noticing all of the things horribly wrong with it, and that was the same period I "sorta" liked it... and one time I told him to come watch ROTS with me since I was in town, and he grew disgusted. I asked "What don't you like about it?"

He said: "There's nothing to like."

We did try to watch it, and only sat through a few minutes. Later we just decided to go play Dungeons & Dragons instead.

Basically Darth Vader is his favorite villain since childhood (mine also), and TPM and AOTC got him hyped up to see the dramatic transformation. He felt Darth Vader was put to shame with ROTS. Instead of being a badass, he was still the childish Anakin from AOTC.

So yeah, I know what you mean.

I almost get the impression that "Star Wars: The Clone Wars" is Lucas' attempt to put in a good name for himself after the travesty that was the prequel trilogy. He knows they're bad, and I see the new series as a cloaked attempt to redeem himself.

Kaiju Eiga said:

DarkFather said:

I want the villain whose true identity is unknown to most, his past as masked as his face, and who evokes fear in his enemies and ally subordinates alike. The main differences between my idea and the character of Darth Vader, are that he can survive without his suit, there's no relation to the hero, nor ever any redeemable factor to him, and I'm not going to give him any magical powers.

Then I still have the hero, the princess, and the rogue. Thinking about combining the hero with the rogue to create something of an anti-hero (cross between Luke and Han... if you can imagine that).

 

For the villain, maybe a cross between Darth Vader and Dr. Doom (the comics version, not the horrific movie version).

 

For the hero, sounds like Sawyer from Lost.

Best,

Kevin

That's a possibility. Thanks for the suggestion.

I could make it a space western. And make the villain similar to the sheriff from O Brother Where Art Thou. Have him dress in black like Johnny Cash, wear a wide-brimmed black cowboy hat with a flat top, and have his face is wrapped in bandages.

I once saw a drawing on DeviantArt of a western Darth Vader similar to what I described. It was awesome.

Sometimes if you want something you have to aggressively go after it, even when nobody else is willing to lift a finger for you.

Okay. Then hope I helped you out.