DVD-BOY

IMGBurn will do it, using a UDF 2.50 file system only to burn out your BDMV folders etc...

dark_jedi said:.

@DVD-BOY do you have some screens of your color correcting?

To be honest, like you, I didn't want to spend a huge amount of time doing a colour correction on these - sum of all the parts and whatnot.

My only suggestion would be to upload 640x360 resolution AVIs with ShowFrameNumber() turned on, so that if anyone wants to take a stab at doing a scene by scene correction, there is a reference of what they have worked to.

Sounds like it - btw, just a heads up, but I find DL-RE discs take a huge amount of time to burn - IMGBurn has an option whereby it re-writes the data automatically as it's burning if it doesn't burn it correctly the first time -  make sense?

I think my record was something like 4+ hours, perhaps longer at 0.8x speed.  In comparisson, a DL-R took about an hour, but obviously cost more $$$.

Could be DVD-RW issue - some players may check the media rather than the content and throw up an error.  Should be a bitrate issue, as it should follow the 3 x DVD-ROM rule so 30Mbps read speed.

Don't know if this forum topic over at doom9 is of any help:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=149104

Has anyone attempted a colour correction script for the Prequel films?  I know Adywan did all of his by hand in After Effects, individually masking items, but I'm wondering if anyone has done a general colour correction?

First Phantom Menace Segment rendering out of AfterFX now - 30s, and it's going to take about 80 mins!!

Need a faster computer at home!!

Look's very good though ;-)

dark_jedi said:

I think Ady said the opening is upconverted on the German .TS,that is why I use the English version up until the first scene change,I have only messed with ANH and ESB so far.

Upscaling is one thing, but re-timing and re-framing of shots - that's something else!!

Funnily enough my After Effects doesn't seem to like the Lagarith Files I created - If I double-click on the items in my asset bin they preview fine, but I just get black frames in my composition window.  At present just using uncompressed AVIs for the edit parts.

Looking forward to seeing any results of G-force's scripts - the GOUT results have been very impressive and I have 3 films to get through before I hit the original trilogy!

Anyway, what is the colorspace you are using? There may have to be some conversion in between, and I know I had to convert to RGB to get enough control over the color channels. I'll PM you the script tonight and if it's something that looks promising, I'll tell you how to tweak it for your purposes.

I think it's either YUY2 or YV12 - x264 requests YV12 whereas Cinevision seems to work better with YUY2.

The HV (MKV) encodes

FULL SIZE - http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/382/tpmshot001hvmkv.jpg

The German (TS) encodes

FULL SIZE - http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5223/tpmshot001dets.jpg

So, it appears that the timing and framing of the opening shot are different, but both do scene change on the same frame - 2823

Strange...

DJ - have you experienced the same thing with your project?

dark_jedi said:

LOL changing the frame rate and slowing down the audio is the easiest thing about this project,it is the subtitle masking and trying to figure out what damn encoder to use,I would like to give CineVision a shot because it was the only one that played very well on my PS3 and Sony BDP-S350,when I encoded with friggin MeGUI I got a lot of stuttering during playback,did not get any with CineVision at all.

and on a kick ass note,I will have my Pioneer BDP-230 this Thursday and already ordered BD-RE's,and BD-R's,and have a case of Blue Blu-ray cases.

I can see myself reverting to Cinevision - at least I can tweak any issues I come across.

Thanks for reminding me - BD cases! I knew there was something I meant to order.

I'm slowly bringing assets together for mine - have demuxed and started to parse the German TS stream through AVISynth to render out AVIs of the different segments.  There's also the beginnings of a menu being worked up in Photoshop, but at present alot of things are still at the planning stages.

This was the x264 discussion I was talking about:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148826

As you can see for some bizarre reason, I'm having problems muxing my x264 files in Scenarist - "The Island" trailer that Ben Waggoner posted is fine - very strange as both are Lagarith and are fed to MeGUI using the same AVISynth script - perhaps Scenarist hates Episode I as much as some people here :-)

I noticed when I demuxed the German TS Files that the video was at 25fps while it was muxed at 24fps.  In AVISynth I've slowed the footage down with AssumeFPS, but I guess this means I'll also have to slow down the ac3 files which is less than ideal - had a devil's own job doing that with Howard the Duck!!

DVD-BOY

Hey DJ,

Sounds like it will do the job nicely - don't think we've ever had any problems with our first generation Pioneer BD-R drive at work, except it didn't do Dual Layer BD... or CDs!!

Have you been following the Doom9 discussion about x264 for BD - I've been doing some tests with Interlaced footage which I think I was getting somewhere with - hopefully I'll get a chance to try with progressive footage this week.

Just trying to sort out a SATA controller card for a couple of 500Gb hard drives, then hopefully I can kick off with my version.

Have you looked at MultiAVCHD author - looks like it does basic blu-ray authoring as well.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

DVD-BOY

As Dark Jedi says, it looks like I will be taking the lead on this one in the UK.

Still working out the best approach to make on these releases - I don't have the skill, or patience to colour correct these releases like Adywan.

It will be one disc per film, as opposed to one trilogy per disc.

Perhaps an initial release will be a BD-25 with just the English 5.1 and Audio Commentary with a later release of something with more extras.  But if I do that, the only thing we'd be gaining is a menu system and probably some (perhaps small) bump in quality over the AVCHD discs.

I am still on the look out for the Empire Magazine commentaries for inclusion.

If anyone has anymore suggestions, please feel free to post them.

I will be back soon with an update.

DVD (Or should that be Blu) BOY.

START        END          COMMENTS
00:00:00    00:00:18    Fox and Lucasfilm Logos
00:00:18    00:02:17    Opening Titles to first Scene Change
00:09:33    00:09:53    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:12:10    00:12:21    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:14:02    14:12:00    Alien Subtitles
00:14:15    00:14:56    Alien Subtitles
00:15:20    00:15:43    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:19:33    00:20:22    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:22:36    00:23:48    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:26:46    00:27:05    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:29:23    00:29:35    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:30:46    00:30:53    Jabba: Alien Subtitles
00:31:13    00:31:20    Jabba: Alien Subtitles

I still have the rest of the film from the The Emperor's introduction to do, but I think that is all of the captions?

START       END            COMMENTS   
00:00:00    00:00:17    Fox and Lucasfilm Logos   
00:00:17    00:01:53    Opening Titles to first Scene Change   
00:30:21    00:30:32    Watto: Alien Subtitles   
00:30:35    00:30:50    Watto: Alien Subtitles   
00:33:32    00:33:47    Watto: Alien Subtitles   
00:34:31    00:34:42    Alien Subtitles   
00:34:47    00:34:51    Alien Subtitles   
00:34:55    00:35:15    Alien Subtitles   
00:44:10    00:44:18    Watto: Alien Subtitles   
00:46:00    00:46:11    Alien Subtitles   
00:51:45    00:51:55    Watto: Alien Subtitles   
00:54:55    00:55:15    Alien Subtitles   
00:55:52    00:56:00    Alien Subtitles   
02:10:33    02:10:42    End of Film - Trim Garbage Mountain Shot!!

I'll do Jedi next before returning to Episode II, III.

Correct, 1920x1080 is 1.78:1 ratio, and any wider ratios such as 2.35:1 are letterboxed within that frame, so there is no 'anamorphic' in a DVD sense for Blu-ray.

The specs do include the option of 1440x1080 which could be flagged as anamorphic, but I have yet to see any disc use this.

Ah yes, I remember that forum now - the one that requires 'a small donation' to visit.

nice.

So did the SkyHD versions show up on newsgroups? Couldn't see anything on binsearch, but I know they sometimes get 'funky' file names.

I think I remember Star Wars moving to Wizards of the Coast, which I think was bought by Hasbro who Lucas got a lot of shares in for Episode I merchandise rights!!

Did anyone archive off the Radio Free Decipher broadcasts?

Did Empire Magazine ever host their audio commentaries??

I meant rough timings as to where all the alien speech occurs to make it quicker to locate which parts need fixing:

00:00:17    00:01:53    Opening Titles to first Scene Change
00:30:21    00:30:32    Watto: Alien Subtitles
00:30:35    00:30:50    Watto: Alien Subtitles
00:33:32    00:33:47    Watto: Alien Subtitles
00:34:47    00:34:51    Alien Subtitles
00:34:55    00:35:15    Alien Subtitles

etc.  You might already have this all worked out, but as I'm going through the films making notes, I figured I might be able to save you some time.

Currently my plan is just a straight 1-6, so that might work out quite nicely.

In terms of audio, the easy part of me says to stick with the English 5.1 muxed into the German Transport Stream.

Adywan is using the Laserdisc Audio for his AVC releases, which would be better mixes, except that A New Hope has been edited for Han shooting Greedo, Empire I think has Clive Revell and the Original Boba Fett, and who knows about Jedi.  Also Phantom Menace is the theatrical cut I believe, while the German Transport stream isn't.

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, or have spent too long writing this post ;)

TheBoost said:

Dammit Adywan.

I have such a nice organized DVD shelf. I have the GOUT and the SE for all the OT (except Star Wars, where I have ANH:R). I have the normal DVD and a fan-edit of each PT film, and they're all in nice, double DVD cases. It looks very clean.

Now I need to find a triple DVD case to hold this excellent piece of work (Isolated scores kick ass!). Where the hell can I find one of those!?!  Thanks for another fine edit, and for ruining my DVD shelf.

If you're using single width DVD cases like the films came in, then Amaray do a double tray to turn these into triple cases:

http://aprmedia.com/product.php?pid=4307

HTH

What order are you doing the films in DJ?

If it's of any help I can send you rough timings for where the subtitles appear in the other films as I go through them myself.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-STAR-WARS-SAGA-1080P-AVCHD-DVD-9-for-PS3-Blu-Ray-players-Episode-1-available-now/topic/9536/

Is the solution to try and sync Ady's Special Edition Laserdisc 5.1 audio instead?

Is that possible?  Ady, would you mind?

Whats the problem with the Han / Jabba Scene?

If I remember correctly, there was an issue with the surround channels being reversed on the Death Star attack, but to fix that I guess you will have to decode the audio to mono wav files, splice and switch the streams for the duration of the scene / reel (??) and then re-encode back to AC-3.

Wow, that's some dedication there Ady!!

I don't know about Dark Jedi, but I sense that my version may be un-colour corrected for authenticity ;-)

adywan said:

All the OT has colour issues unfortunately

Was there an overall setting you used to correct the colour Adywan, or did you do it shot by shot?

May I ask what tool you used for your colour correction?

There was something to do with colours on Star Wars - I think they all boosted, as I remember someone showing how much cyan there was in the whites at the start of the film.

How did the masking come out?

I'm actually sat watching through Episode I - German HD, making a bit of a shot list where english captions will have to drop in, and other items of note, perhaps for a later trivia track or something.