DVD-BOY

JediTray said:

Well, that was rude.  Let me rephrase.

I don't remember how to use the newsgroups, so I would need to start from scratch.  I have tried to find online tutorials and such, but it might as well have been in Swahili.

That said, I am asking if anyone can provide links or send me a message containing the information I would need to get started.

Try Here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Usenet-tutorial/post/203188/#TopicPost203188

Hi None,

Glad it all worked out for you in the end!

If you ever need to check out a pair of DDP Images in future, you can try performing (In a Windows World...) a binary dos copy:

copy /b layer0.dat, layer1.dat combined.dat.

This would basically join the two layer images together to make a single disc image which you can burn out in IMGBurn (you might need to rename to ISO or IMG first).  Don't know the Apple OS specifics of doing that, and it sounds real YeeHa! Cowboy, but it does work.

As you found out, you're probably safe with DDP 2.1 these days, but I'm and old school kind of guy, and I know all replicators accept 2.0.

Glad you found a layer break - that can be a real head scratcher sometimes. I often do the "throw as many chapters in" option when I'm really stuck...

I don't quite follow your point about recordable dimension on normal media vs pressed media.  Dual Layers hold less per layer than single layers, I believe because the tracks are laid out a little differently to allow the laser to read through the two layers - it's something like 4GB vs 4.35GB.  In terms of capacity I'm pretty sure a DVD+R DL holds the same amount as a DVD-9, certainly if you work to say 90-95% capacity.  I think I've only had 1 situation whereby a DVD-R burnt out in Nero was slightly larger than a DVD-5 and the factory couldn't replicate, and even now I don't know how I achieved that.

All the best

DVD-BOY

Moth3r said:

none, I would suggest you try asking this at the ImgBurn support forums - LUK seems to know pretty much everything about optical media formats.

Unless I'm misreading the original post, none wants to deliver a dual layer project to a factory, in which case I would never recommend using a Dual Layer disc as your master format.

Disc Image, one folder per layer is the way to go.

DVD-BOY

Hi None,

What are you authoring in?

-- EDIT --

Re-reading your message, I see that you mention DVD Studio Pro, so I'm guessing you're using version 3 or 4.

When you want to send files to the factory, the best option is to do your build, to create you VIDEO_TS folder, and then for you format, to select "Hard Disk", set the options to DDP Disc Image version 2.00 (not 2.1).

Personally, I would always mannualy set the layer break point within the format dialogue - I don't trust leaving it at automatic.

Also, make sure that Seamless Layer Break is NOT checked.

You should end up with 2 build folders Layer 0, and Layer 1, inside each is:

1. DDPID
2. CONTROL.DAT
3. MAIN.DAT

I would suggest generating a text file of MD5Sums for each folder, and burning the folder and relevant text file to a good-brand DVD-R as an UDF File Format Disc.

HTH

DVD-BOY

I always burn Single Layers at 8x and Dual Layers at 4x - don't see the point burning any faster for the QC operator to fail the disc for playback issues.

He's big and Irish and could probably hurt me quite badly...

AVISynth?  I believe it's AddBorders(), plus this would be accepted by the x264 encoder.

ImperialFighter said:

And then there's the fairies.... -  http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2010/jan/28/star-wars-george-lucas-avatar

And then there's getting in completely wrong:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2010/01/29/lucas-tuskegee-airmen.html?ref=rss

TV's Frink said:

DVD-BOY said:

• Battle of the bikinis as Victoria's Secret models Miranda Kerr and Alessandra Ambrosio strip off

From now on I get *all* my news from the Daily Mail.  Thx!

<grin> Hey I'm not saying they don't provide a valuable service ;-)

vote_for_palpatine said:

Because the Daily Mail is know for it's accurate reporting...

So I suppose if the Daily Mail reported that "Water Is Wet", then it wouldn't be?

The National Enquirer could report that the Sky is Blue and the Grass is Green, but I still wouldn't use them as the defacto word on the next (re)release of a hollywood film.

Here's their current showbiz news:

• Heavily pregnant Jennifer Ellison indulges her cravings... as she tucks into pickled onions
• Celebrity Big Brother: Dane Bowers reveals the REAL reason he split with Katie Price
• The good ship Lily Allen: Singer enjoys a day off aboard a luxury yacht
• Angelina Jolie was so jealous of Jennifer Aniston: So will Brad Pitt go back to his ex?
• Revealed: The secrets of Kylie and Dannii Minogues' convict heritage
• Kylie Minogue revealed as latest star for Simon Cowell's Haiti earthquake charity single
• Battle of the bikinis as Victoria's Secret models Miranda Kerr and Alessandra Ambrosio strip off
• David Tennant's plans to break America on ice as new TV show is put 'on hold'
• Happy holidays for Jennifer Hudson as she enjoys a sunshine break with fiancé
• Lady Gaga covers up her bruises in crazy sweet wrapper inspired outfit
• Cheryl Cole strolls through airport with suspiciously plump lips but denies having any work
• Gail Porter winning the battle against alopecia as hair starts to grow back
• Amelle Berrabah helps fellow Sugababe Jade Ewen celebrate her birthday, but Heidi Range is nowhere to be seen
• Dancing On Ice: Bad posture becomes Jeremy Sheffield's downfall as he is sent home from contest
• Uma Thurman resembles Dr.Seuss' famous cat in the hat with an unusual choice of headwear at Heathrow airport
• Diff'rent Strokes star Gary Coleman arrested for domestic assault

Of course George Lucas is going to make 3D Star Wars at some point, but please don't expect the first word on such a thing to come from The Daily Fail.

ferris209 said:

OH MY LORD!!

Lucas is an absolute moron!!

Because the Daily Mail is know for it's accurate reporting...

digitalfreaknyc said:

 Well, for whatever reason, the 5th disc wouldn't even get to menu and the 2nd DVD would only play a portion of it.  No idea why but it completely stopped the disc on my player.

In any case, it's been resolved.  I guess that's the good news.

Absolutely good news, I didn't want it to seem like I was doubting you or anything.

Out of interest, and kinda off topic, but what did you burn the disc out with?

DVD-BOY

digitalfreaknyc said:

FWIW, it's an LAY file, whatever that is.

Strange that the burning software trips up on the LAY file - DVDSP and Spruce before it used this file as a 'preference' file (LAYOUT) - it contains volume information and where the layer break would be set etc.

No need for it in a burnable copy, and can be safely deleted, but at the same time should do no harm if left.

DVD-BOY

Hi,

I replied to one of the many places you've asked this!!

DVD-BOY

I don't know how goog the pull down is in DVD Architect, but I wouldn't want to convert to 29.97fps - that would be just nasty.

If you can MPEG out at 23.976fps, there is a free tool you can download called DGPulldown, which will had the repeat field required for pulldown.

HTH

DVD-BOY

Cinema 16's American Short Films definitely has an audio commentary by George Lucas on Freiheit.

I think you just turn on Audio Commentary on the Main Menu.

I know Cinema 16: British and European Short Films were PAL, but I pretty certain the rest were NTSC.

Resume Information is a little bit more complicated than that.  On HDMV titles, the Author decides whether Resume information will be stored or discarded for a certain title - you can only store the resume information for one title, so if you jump from the main feature into an extra, and resume information is held for the extra, it will overwrite the resume information for the main feature.

The PS3 in general is a funny beast, and I think you sometime have better luck hitting triangle on a video / dvd than x as this may give you options of "PLAY" or "PLAY FROM BEGINNING".

Where things get tricky with Blu-ray is on discs which are authored using BD-J which appears to be more and more titles - I believe if they wish to add some BD LIVE functionality.

By default, there is no resume information with BD-J as you are effectively running a programe on the disc, what is sometimes called a "Finite State Machine".  When you stop the program that is it, the application stops.

What more and more BD-J developers are doing is 'capturing' the STOP command on your remote, and recording the disc's state to the player's persistent storage - Current Title, Time, Audio Track, Subtitle Track etc.

When you next press play, the disc is programmed to check if there is any information in persistent storage.

At least, I believe that is the theory!!

I'm a little confused by this as well.  640x480 is 1.33:1, so if you calculate:

9/16*640 = 360 which is 120 less than 480, and therefore 60 off the top and bottom.

BUT, if you calculate 9/16*720 = 404-ish which is more what I would expect for the correct value.

Of course this isn't taking pixel aspect ratios into account...

Otherwise there's Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator:

http://www.haku.co.uk/ARCT.html

Those are some seriously AWSOME covers and labels.

dark_jedi said:

WG you might want to double check your AOTC BD25 cover art,you have it at 25GB DUAL LAYER,also not sure if you have been reading all these posts or not but some of us are very curious what encoder you use and what authoring program,some of us,myself included would like to do some of our own authoring and am curious what program to try,unless of course you have been reading the posts and just are ignoring us and keeping your programs "Top Secret" for some strange reason.

but anyways there is an error on your AOTC BD25 case art,and Thanks much for sharing all that you share.

In terms of Authoring, without seeing any of the menus on WG's discs, I would take a guess at:

• Adobe DVD Encore - http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/encore/
• Roxio DVDitPro HD - http://www.roxio.co.uk/eng/products/dvdit/hd/overview.html
• Some Corel / Ulead product - http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/gb/en/Product/1175714228541#pro_5

The only other options would be Netblender DoStudio or Sonic ScenaristBD.

Can anyone post a screengrab of the menus?  If it's Adobe Encore, that will also do the encoding I believe.  Could be Procoder, which has some AVC presets, or WG has a better hang of x264 than us ;)

dark_jedi said:

DVD-BOY,oops I mean BLU-BOY,where are you at now on your projects? I just finished up Jedi so I have the OT on BD25's,going to start Sith now,I am going to go backwards on the PT,first though I think I will burn Wookie Groomers BD25 versions and see if I really want to even waste my time doing these,I know his BD50 versions look pretty good,but not much of a difference at all from my BD25 versions,and a lot cheaper to burn.

I'm still playing around with Episode I, social life and work still getting in the way!!

Finally fixed the issues with Episode I (I think...)  I originally used TS-Remuxer to demux all of the streams from the German HDTV broadcasts, but for some reason they didn't flag any delay details in the filenames.  When I got DGAVCIndex to parse the TS file and demux the audio I could see the delay on the TS Streams so I knew what I need to do to that audio so that I could sync the DVD audio with my encode (Don't worry, I know what I mean :))

The other issue was, at least with Episode I, the German HDTV broadcast seemed to crop a couple of seconds off the beginning of the film, when compared to the DVD - you didn't get the entire Fox fanfare - so that was fun!

I'm glad WG has almost got the entire SAGA released, so people can pick that up for their Star Wars HD fix - I would hate for people to be waiting on my release as it's a long way off - the fun part isn't the destination, it's the journey ;)

I'll report back when I have more news.

Optical Disc Boy ;)

ryanvb said:

Looks like archive.org has various snapshots.  The Flash features don't seem to work though.  http://dvd.starwars.com" target="_blank" title="web.archive.org/web/*/http://dvd.starwars.com">http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://dvd.starwars.com

Thanks Ryanvb,

I did take a look at the Wayback Machine, but as far as I could tell, they are just archives of the 'landing page' which prompted you to insert the disc into your computer.

I must admit, I didn't try hitting the archive with the DVD in the drive - I just figured that wouldn't work.

DVD-BOY

It appears the DVD-ROM section of starwars.com is down, probably never to return.  Did anyone archive off any of the content before it disappeared, in particular the ‘in depth text commentaries’?

http://blogs.starwars.com/jkt77/10

The Jedi Council Forums at TFN had a post of the transcript of Episode II (I think), but I’ve been unable to locate the rest.

Many Thanks

DVD-BOY

My project has kind os stalled at present - work / life has been rather busy, and the last time I looked I was having issues with sync on TPM, which has blunted my enthusiasm.  Hopefully I will get a chance to take a look at things on Sunday.

Still probably going with Cinevision as it's what I know - just don't have the time to play about with x264.

The German HDTV broadcasts already have compression artifacts, so the best that can be achieved is not adding any more artifacts.

In a word, no, sorry.  AVC is a completely different video compression format to 'old school' mpeg-2 used on DVDs.