So in other words, the Special Edition negatives are all together in a receptacle somewhere, and all the frames specifically from the theatrical cuts are simply stored somewhere else? I mean, maybe it’s a bit more complicated, but is that basically the gist?
My eyes can’t tell the difference between 720 and 1080.
Derp…found it. Sorry, guys.
So I’ve asked this question before (don’t remember which thread, sorry) but I don’t quite understand the current state of the Star Wars O-negatives. I know that Lucasfilm has stated that the original negatives have been conformed to the special editions. To me, a layman who knows very little about how films are produced and restored, this sounds like the original negatives are gone, at least the frames that initially contained non-special edition alterations.
I’m aware of the clean up that happened in the 90s, because the film was in bad shape. So as far as I understand things, the original negatives were scanned digitally, cleaned up, and then used as the basis for the special editions as well as the 1993 release.
I’ve heard people say on this forum that we know that Lucasfilm has preserved everything. If every original negative, interpositive, composite master, etc. has been preserved, then I don’t see how the O-neg can be conformed to the special edition.
So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?
Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.
And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.
So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?
have you read Mike Verta’s thread? i feel like most of this is covered there. Granted, its a really long thread. but better to read it from the source, then have it all reposted here.
Sorry, I haven’t been able to find it.
So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?
Because he told them about it, probably.
Mike has done contract work on a few projects for Lucasfilm and Disney over the years and has many contacts there. He has always been open about Legacy and the fact that he wasn’t going to release it is precisely why he was able to obtain such good sources.His plan after finishing the work was to set up a screening for executives with the hope that one day it might be actually used for a release. He last stated in November that he had found “the guy” at Disney and through those conversations was connected with “the guy” at Fox with tentative plans for a screening in late February.
And yes, he has good sources but he also developed new techniques to combine information together from his multiple sources, so his restoration is most definitely the best SW has ever looked.
So one of the reasons why he has access to the sources that he does is because he informed Lucasfilm of what he was doing?
Mike is a professional with expensive, professional equipment and the know-how to use it. He has connections and access to better sources, on the condition that he didn’t release them to the public without consent.
This. Whereas our finest minds here on OT are doing something of dubious legality by editing the released films (made even more muddy by releasing them afterwards), Mike is completely within the law, working as a licensed professional who never intends to do anything with his product without the express approval of those who own the rights to it. There’s more than a few self-serving people who are salty at that prospect, but I for one rest a little easier knowing that somewhere out there, there’s a glorious pristine edition of Star Wars just waiting to be released by the books.
So why does Lucasfilm know about his restoration if he doesn’t plan on releasing it?
Anyone else think Harmy’s DeSpecialized version looks better than this? The silver screen version is still cool to have, but I prefer watching the Despecialized edition.
And Lucasfilm is aware of what he’s doing? I guess I’m not just not exactly sure what the difference is between this project and the restoration done by Team Negative or Harmy.
Does anyone know what Mike Verta is using for his restoration? Is he working from a film print, or does he have access to the original negatives?
For what it’s worth, I saw the original trilogy back in 1990 when I was 5, and nothing about it scared me.
Come to think of it, I think the first time I was scared by a movie was watching Star Trek 2, which I saw around the same time.
Can someone explain to me why the GOUT is non-anamorphic? It looks to be the same aspect ratio as the special edition, but the image is smaller. Was anything cropped out? Sorry if this is kind of a newb question, I really don’t have a good understanding of aspect ratios and other film jargon.
Hopefully, Mike Verta’s pitch has happened, and has set things in motion. However, I very much doubt Disney and Lucasfilm will have their own plans. There’s a new 4K restoration for ANH for sure, conformed to the SE. So, a new 4K mastered SE release may be pending, with some additional material, such as the Tarkin footage shown at celebration, but an OOT release seems unlikely, unless Mike Verta can convince them of the merits of his restoration.
This may have been asked a lot already, but what exactly does it mean for the negatives to be conformed to the SE? We know that the original negatives have not been destroyed, like many have speculated, so how could they be conformed to the SE?
They’ve announced that Carrie Fisher will not be in episode IX at all.
“What a desolate place this is…”
The surprise they keep talking about at the celebration could turn out to be nothing more than the Ep. 8 trailer.
I’ve seen the still images here: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM9HqKhDhHT1O6CDfGmH44R1AduXqfpFjOqiMHVX3OnWusb-fZ_RoPKjAcO8Jcgsg?key=blBhRV9DNmsxaVlMdUpFYjYxN3FISk5Ma2xfQ293
It’s kinda hard to gauge just based on the screen shots, you kinda have to see the scene in motion. Even the stills from Despecialized v1.0 look fine. I was just wondering if anyone who has seen both versions of the despecialized edition can attest to whether or not that scene in particular is better, or about the same.
Can anyone tell me if the eyebrows are still kinda blurry when Vader takes his mask off?
So I have harmy’s despecialized edition from 2012 (I think). What changes were made for the 2.5 version?
So…I just downloaded this and the video/audio is extremely choppy. Has anyone else dealt with this? Do I need a super fancy graphics card in order to watch this?
Edit: Nevermind, apparently the problem was with windows media player. I switched to a different program and it played fine.
What exactly does it mean for the negative to be disassembled?
I love that this thread is not centered on the absolutely nonsensical “I am your father” death-knell to any semblance of SW continuity, but instead to this bizarre obscurantist, interpretive trivia.
Huh? Darth Vader being Luke’s father is a continuity error now?
Not so much an error as a flamboyant abandonment.
Abandonment of what?
Think about it, professor. What’s the topic of this thread?
…ah…ah…aaaaaand
THERE you go!
Now that you’ve stumbled over that hurdle, you can start to think of whether it makes any sense that Vader like suddenly realizes that he’s Luke’s father, and wanted him to have the lightsaber that Ben had, and also killed Luke’s father, and was Ben’s pupil and also Ben’s peer, and…
There’s no need to be rude or condescending. The original post says that there is no continuity between the Star Wars films, a statement with which I disagree.
Making Anakin and Vader the same person is a retcon, but it’s not a continuity error.
I love that this thread is not centered on the absolutely nonsensical “I am your father” death-knell to any semblance of SW continuity, but instead to this bizarre obscurantist, interpretive trivia.
Huh? Darth Vader being Luke’s father is a continuity error now?
Not so much an error as a flamboyant abandonment.
Abandonment of what?
Of any of the original concepts pre-3rd(?) draft of ESB.
So?
I love that this thread is not centered on the absolutely nonsensical “I am your father” death-knell to any semblance of SW continuity, but instead to this bizarre obscurantist, interpretive trivia.
Huh? Darth Vader being Luke’s father is a continuity error now?
Not so much an error as a flamboyant abandonment.
Abandonment of what?
I love that this thread is not centered on the absolutely nonsensical “I am your father” death-knell to any semblance of SW continuity, but instead to this bizarre obscurantist, interpretive trivia.
Huh? Darth Vader being Luke’s father is a continuity error now?