Colson

Mavimao said:

Colson said:

Any particular need for a print scan?

The bluray screwed up the collars! What was the TRUE theatrical timing? I saw it 7 times in 1960 and the only medium that felt “right” since then was the discovision release!

I’m going to be 100% honest and say that I can’t tell whether you’re joking, as the movie is in B&W, though if you’re serious, I actually had no idea the colors/shades/tints/whatever were incorrect on the BD.

It’s worth noting that this is not an original 1960 print, but is a reissue that has the Paramount logo replaced by the Universal one. Also, the current Blu-Ray of Psycho looks pretty fantastic.

Any particular need for a print scan?

I would LOVE to see this. Might I recommend releasing without the missing frames, but including the scene in question as a separate mp4 (from your 720p source) for the sake of completion? Just as a way to acknowledge the almost-complete nature of the edit.

We could use this recording for scenes that were changed, then the Blu-Ray for everything else. Sort of a reconstruction?

DuracellEnergizer said:

Colson said:

Dek Rollins said:

For my personal canon, I’ll have to go with Colson’s multiple idea.

1. Star Wars (1977)

2. Original Trilogy; Unaltered or my own personal edits (only scene edits; no special effects changes) that I haven’t made happen yet.

Glad to hear it made sense to someone lol 😃

It makes sense to me, too. Hell, now I’m tempted to adopt a similar framework myself.

Glad to hear I have a good idea every once in a while 😃

Windows7Guy100 said:

Colson said:

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

They had Ewen McGregor reprise his role as Obi-Wan in TFA and are having the actress who played Mon Mothma in RoTS reprise her role in Rouge One.

That’s fine. I’m just expressing how I think of the stories as I’m watching them.

Dek Rollins said:

For my personal canon, I’ll have to go with Colson’s multiple idea.

1. Star Wars (1977)

2. Original Trilogy; Unaltered or my own personal edits (only scene edits; no special effects changes) that I haven’t made happen yet.

Glad to hear it made sense to someone lol 😃

ElectricTriangle said:

JayArgonaut said:

I can’t believe I forgot about this! 😄

All home video versions of The Fugitive from the 2001 DVD onwards have been altered to digitally remove a crew member who was visible (in a ghost like image, apparently) during the train crash scene.

http://www.moviefone.com/2013/08/07/the-fugitive-25-things-you-didnt-know/

The first printing of the Bluray (the one with MPEG-2 encoding) does not have the change. The later VC-1 pressing does. (The change is also done really sloppily.)

Is the MPEG-2 encoding otherwise just as good as the replacement?

Lord Haseo said:

What? lol

Is this a response to me?

If so, I basically just like to think of Star Wars as its own separate movie that wasn’t originally part of this huge, grand franchise. It exists as one of the great films of all time, a visual spectacle and cultural phenomenon that impacted the world in a big way.

My personal canon is actually three separate personal canons.

Canon 1: Star Wars, by itself (original theatrical, of course). This allows for things like Luke and Leia not being related, Vader not being Luke’s father, etc. I like this idea simply because it allows me to enjoy Star Wars as a standalone film with its own separate story. Whereas Empire and Return were explicitly as sequels, Star Wars was its own, independent movie.

Canon 2: The original trilogy in its unaltered state. I consider this trilogy to be its “own thing” in that I consider it to be a story that does and should exist separately from everything else.

Canon 3: The original trilogy in its unaltered state, plus any new Disney movies that might come out. I justify not including the Special Editions/prequels by assuming that the people working on the new movies have a love for the originals similar my own love, so their head canon probably involves the unaltered originals and not the Special Editions.

I’ll give two answers.

1. I saw Episode III when it released in 2005. I was 9 years old. I didn’t think of it as anything special and never bothered to watch another SW film. I don’t consider this my real intro, as III is not a real Star Wars movie. 😃

2. In 2011, I was in an FYE store (they sell DVDs and the like, for you non-Americans), when I spotted a DVD of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope that claimed to also include the original theatrical version. Not knowing anything about the changes made at the time, I did some quick Googling and came to the conclusion that I had to see the Star Wars movies, and that I had to see the original versions, as I couldn’t stand for the injustice that is altering such an important film to such a heavy degree. Fortunately, the same FYE also had Empire and Return, so I bought all three for a total of about $20 (I know, quite the steal). Anyway, I initially found Star Wars to be a bit boring, but I LOVED Empire and, to a lesser extent, Return. After discovering the Despecialized editions in 2014 (thanks to a Reddit TIL post), I have since found a deep love for the first film. So anyway, though the GOUT is truly awful, I wouldn’t have my current love for Star Wars without it.

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lapinlooping said:

Hello i bought the censored 2Dvds & the Bluray, i downloaded the HDTV uncensored but i’m really curious about this 25GB version can somebody send me a link Pleeeease 😃

PM’ed

Lil Brutto said:

There’s a strong possibility of a Grindhouse release, especially given the amount of time and effort required for digital cleanup.

That’s excellent to hear. Thanks for all of your hard work.

Darth Id said:

Colson said:

After calibrating my TV, I have a newfound love for the originals. I can no longer see the garbage mattes (which is how it should be on a well-calibrated screen). Star Wars is just absolutely beautiful now.

I can, of course, still see the regular matte lines, but they’ve never bothered me like garbage mattes do.

Soooo…
You’re saying you would put the garbage mattes back in?

No! I was simply stating that something I thought was a problem in the original actually wasn’t a problem at all. Honestly my comment was a bit off-topic.

I’d remove Greedo shooting first. Although I could probably be talked into fixing the colors instead.

Lil Brutto said:

I’m pleased to update you all that, as of today, the scanning phase of the project is finally complete. Ahead is the time-consuming phase of digital cleanup.

That is AWESOME to hear. Any chance we’ll see a Grindhouse release?

njvc said:

Good point.

My thinking with option 2 is for people who don’t mind giving up multiple language audio options in exchange for a host of special features. But if option 2 just becomes a dedicated special features disk, it can include much more great content, and then the 50gb can be the best of both worlds. I think that’s the way to go.

I like this idea the best. Seems like the best of both worlds. Thanks for your awesome work.

yoda-sama said:

Just amazing… from a certain point of view.

From my point of view, the .ISOs are evil!

After calibrating my TV, I have a newfound love for the originals. I can no longer see the garbage mattes (which is how it should be on a well-calibrated screen). Star Wars is just absolutely beautiful now.

I can, of course, still see the regular matte lines, but they’ve never bothered me like garbage mattes do.

digitalfreaknyc said:

Colson said:

Cabijista said:

Is this edit still happening? Very interested in this!

The whole thing aired uncensored on HBO in January. A 1080i and 720p rip of this exist on public trackers.

There is no 1080i version available.

My mistake

Chewtobacca said:

^ I didn’t say that the colors of the new BD were inaccurate – just that they were different from the previous releases. The point of my question was to ascertain which colors were being handled by DrDre’s algorithm, not to make any statement about the accuracy of the color-timing of any particular release.

Ah, I see. Sorry, my mistake.

Discostu said:

Colson said:

Chewtobacca said:

DrDre said:
Take the example of the film Gladiator:

Is your example from the remastered BD or the previous one? The former has color-timing that is noticeably different from the latter, which matches previous home-video releases and the HDTV broadcasts. I’m just curious as to which you chose.

So if I was to buy the movie, I’d want the older, non-remastered BD?

God no, it’s one of the worst BDs out there with arrows erased by automatic dirt removal.

So the old one is bad, but the new one has inaccurate colors? That kind of sucks.

Chewtobacca said:

DrDre said:
Take the example of the film Gladiator:

Is your example from the remastered BD or the previous one? The former has color-timing that is noticeably different from the latter, which matches previous home-video releases and the HDTV broadcasts. I’m just curious as to which you chose.

So if I was to buy the movie, I’d want the older, non-remastered BD?

SkyderHouseMafia said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

They should’ve just used Comic Sans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIh-qeep3Lo

MAN the Star Wars logo goes slow in this one. Is that the proper speed for the Special Editions? It’s WAY faster in the original.

kosarek92 said:

Dude count me in for a copy. Tried several times to burn a copy onto disk yet it doesn’t play on my blu-ray player.

I’m confused by your post. You still have to download this version and burn it to a BD yourself.