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Collipso

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#1242206
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General Star Wars <strong>Random Thoughts</strong> Thread
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SilverWook said:

I find it curious these guys are standing guard well before there are rebel scum running loose on the Death Star. Does Tarkin have to worry about assassination attempts from his rivals? Does Vader just stand around wheezing all day when he doesn’t have people to torture?

I suppose it could simply be a honor guard befitting Tarkin’s title.

i mean, they were at war.

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#1242060
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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moviefreakedmind said:

It’s relative. In their most simple definitions, liberalism just means an openness to change while conservatism is resistance to change.

right, so i guess i’d call liberals ‘progressives’.

Classical liberalism is a different term than liberalism. Classical liberalism is a free-market economic ideology that dates back 200 years.

i suspected whenever i talked to someone in the US and they told me they were liberals they weren’t referring to John Locke’s ideology, but to something else. i guess they’re as leftist as it gets there, huh?

In America our liberals are not as far left as social democrats, typically.

it’s a shame that even the left in the US isn’t that far left, to be honest. i wish the leftwing were stronger there.

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#1242050
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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moviefreakedmind said:

You’re very, very mistaken. Liberalism, by definition, is not a rightwing ideology at all. That’s just factually wrong.

economic liberalism’s main idea is to reassure one’s right to a private property. another one of its basic premises is for the government not to interfere with the economy, allowing the market to be as free as possible. that is absolutely a right wing ideology. it allows the entrepreneurs to explore the working class, in fact i’d say liberalism almost encourages it to happen. it is a rightwing ideology.

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#1242023
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Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars
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ChainsawAsh said:

Man, people have such rigid definitions of what is and isn’t sci-fi…

I guess the point I was trying to make that one time a couple days ago was that Star Wars isn’t and never was hard science fiction, and as such trying to find a scientifically plausible explanation for how anything works within the franchise is futile. Which is why I consider it fantasy within a sci-fi setting.

So I guess if I were to try and pigeonhole it into a genre, I can’t. It’s (soft) sci-fi. It’s space opera. It’s fantasy. It’s adventure. But I’d argue “sci-fi” is the least important of those to the franchise.

It’s absolutely not, however, hard sci-fi or speculative fiction or whatever label you want to put on stories that are about scientifically plausible technologies.

best post so far.

however, fuck labels.

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#1241956
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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SilverWook said:

Collipso said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The country needs a revolution (ideally a peaceful one, but if that’s impossible, then potentially a violent one) to get rid of both corporate and theocratic influences in our government.

most countries do at this point in time. in brazil, one of the mottos of the candidate that’s in the lead for the upcoming presidential election is “brazil above everything, god above everyone”, and he intends to make abortion and gay marriage crimes due to those practices being against the “traditional brazilian family and their christian values”, for example.

Plenty of christian values on display at Carnival in Rio every year. Makes Mardi Gras look like a Disney film. 😉

hahaha yeah those are always a fun ride 😉 (i’m from rio 😃)

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#1241944
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Science Fiction or Space Fantasy - what is Star Wars
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DrDre said:

Anchorhead said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:
Absolutely baffles me. Technology is of exactly zero importance in Star Wars. It’s there, that’s it. The films are not about that at all. They are modern myths, and very clearly so. You cannot with a straight face tell me that Star Wars is more similar to Shelly and Verne than to Tolkein and Arthurian legends.

I disagree with this statement. The original Star Wars trilogy was very much about technology. In fact the original Star Wars can be seen as a critique of the modern world, where technology supersedes spirituality punctuated by Motti´s remark “This space station is now the ultimate power in the universe!” This to me is one of the more interesting aspects of the first movie, namely that the Jedi and even Darth Vader himself are seen as relics of the past in a galaxy dominated by technology.

I’m not at all speaking for Dominic, so he should correct me if I’m off. I think he’s noting that technology doesn’t drive the story in-universe. Luke has a speeder because that’s how you get around, vaporators are how you get water, droids are the labor pool, space ships are how you travel from planet to planet, etc.

I had that in my original response as well, before I trimmed it. Technology, far superior to ours, is the world in which they live. The story at its roots is; old man enlists the help of a farm boy to go rescue the princess and fight the bad guys.

That story can be told in just about any timeline or setting.

I don’t agree. The entire concept of the Old Republic with its spiritual guardians tapping into a long forgotten energy field created by all living things vs an Empire with its technology wiping out the life of an entire planet in an instant is at the heart of the movie. It is one of its main themes. The destruction of the Death Star is the victory of spirituality over technology. The climax of the movie sees Luke reject a piece of technology in favour of trusting his instincts, and using the Force.

while i agree with this, i don’t think it makes Star Wars sci-fi at all.

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#1241939
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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moviefreakedmind said:

The country needs a revolution (ideally a peaceful one, but if that’s impossible, then potentially a violent one) to get rid of both corporate and theocratic influences in our government.

most countries do at this point in time. in brazil, one of the mottos of the candidate that’s in the lead for the upcoming presidential election is “brazil above everything, god above everyone”, and he intends to make abortion and gay marriage crimes due to those practices being against the “traditional brazilian family and their christian values”, for example.

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#1241214
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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i suppose i phrased my last post in a sadistic way. what i meant was i don’t think it’s bad at all when nazis are getting punched and i actually tend to support that kind of action whenever it occurs. i’m a pacifist in literally everything in my life and i’m strongly in favor of prohibition of gun owning, but i can’t agree that fighting violence with violence is bad 100% of the time. sure stuff like gandhi’s movement in india should be the ideal, but sometimes we just have to, you know, punch evil in the face.