Collipso

You_Too said:

Collipso said:
i thought this frame was from The SkyMaster Edition and not The Skywalker Edition?

What is the difference? I think I saw some clip on youtube once saying that the Skywalker Edition was gonna have chromatic aberration sorted out and all that, color channels aligned etc. That must take forever to do.

The Skywalker Edition is going to be ultracleaned and with the colors all sorted out, etc. that is indeed going to take years to complete.

The SkyMaster Edition is basically a quicker attempt at fixing most of the issues The Skywalker Edition is going to fix, so while its newest incarnation should be out in the next couple of weeks, it’s not going to be as good as the other, more complete Skywalker Edition. this one is called SkyMaster due to being done not only by SkyDude but also by Dreamaster.

Williarob said:

You_Too said:

Williarob said:
Starting with the noDNR version, I used Neat Video to reduce the noise. A single noise profile can be used for the entire film and give you pretty good results, but for better results you will want to create a separate noise profile for each of the noisier shots: The smoke filled corridors on the Tantive, the droids in the Desert, “Look sir, Droids”, the sandcrawler coming over the Dune, the imfamous speeder scene, and just about any shot with a white/pink flash. Every single shot in those sequences had it’s own noise profile, because the level of noise varies greatly. I had initially set out to create a separate noise profile for every single shot in the film, but quickly discovered that even with an 8 GB video card and 128 GB of RAM, you run out of memory way before you run out of shots doing it that way with 4K footage.

This is something that was very, very well done and I kinda expected it since as Mike Verta once pointed out, some scenes had so much noise and/or color noise in them even on the negative that there’s not much detail to dig out of them, like the speeder shot in Mos Eisley. You’ve done an amazing job on all that.

Williarob said:
Anyway, that took weeks, and when it was done it became obvious that all of that noise was hiding tons of dirt and dust that suddenly became very distracting. So I had to go through the entire film again, cleaning up the more distracting dirt and dust - and there’s still plenty left.

Another impressive thing that’s been done.

Williarob said:
While I was in PFClean, I used the Color Balance effect to automatically balance every shot.

This is the part that should’ve been skipped, I know it from photoshop and premiere and in 9 out of 10 situations it doesn’t do a good job. It’s most likely what created the huge inconsistency.

Williarob said:
So I’m sorry if you don’t like this version - I’m not 100% happy with it myself - but I honestly believe that using both of these versions as a starting point, I’m giving you and everyone else just about everything you could possibly need to make your own dream version of Star Wars - with the noDNR version alone you now have access to a more or less untouched, relatively clean, complete version of Star Wars in 4K to play with! It wasn’t so long ago that the best version we had was the GOUT.

First of all, I’m very sorry if I bashed you too hard. I guess I looked forward to this version a little too much, and having worked on similar projects I tend to be very picky about color work. My apologies.
I’m glad that thanks to you, we don’t have to watch the GOUT ever again and I look forward to 4K80 and 4K83. 😃

If I had a better real life I would’ve given it a shot probably, though I have 6GB ram so I bet my computer wouldn’t be able to handle working on a 4K movie. I’ll be checking back here and on myspleen every now and then and hope someone else who are able to do it will render another DNR version. It just made it look so much cleaner and I don’t often say that about DNR, with things like Predator Ultimate Hunter Edition in mind, or that new release of Jurassic Park.

i thought this frame was from The SkyMaster Edition and not The Skywalker Edition?

is it controversial/wrong that i love and fully support it when someone beats the shit out of neonazis/white supremacists/far right people?

good to have you back warb.

are those from the blu-ray? i seem to recall the first dvd release to have the best colors for raiders.

DominicCobb said:

At this point the only thing in last place that would surprise me is either the original or ESB.

funny how the post right after this one has the original in last place. 😛

good

well, imo for post OT entries, RotS > RO > AotC > TLJ > TPM > TFA. haven’t seen solo yet.

there are several other versions of 4k77 in the works if this one did not please you. i don’t think rob is going to work on it any further, but some other people will.

suspiciouscoffee said:

I think he just did it backward. Least to most instead of most to least, but Markdown doesn’t let you number like that.

i thought of that, but i really wanted to listen to someone who ranks the movies that way share their thoughts, so i gave him the benefit (or not) of the doubt.

woah! i’d never seen the OT at the bottom before. rogueleader, care to share your thoughts? i’m really interested in reading what you have to say.

DrDre said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

At this point I don’t think you should be surprised by anyone putting TLJ last (no pun intended).

Indeed, the latest poll for worst Star Wars movie on the TFN boards shows 30% of voters vote for TLJ. It is also the favourite Star Wars movie for 20% of the voters in the favourite Star Wars movie poll.

if we’re talking about the same poll, for ‘least favorite’ we have TLJ first with 35% of votes, then AotC with 20.4% followed by TFA with 20% and TPM with 17%. the rest barely have any votes. for favorite TESB is first with 35.5%, RotS is second with 21.5% and SW and TLJ are third, both with 11.2%.

that actually sounds pretty awesome.

that’s interesting. here in Brazil, some characters had to have their names changed not to sound weird. captain panaka became captain panace because panaka would sound like “panaca”, which means either fool or in a more aggressive context, an idiot or something. dooku became dookan because dooku would sound like ‘do cu’, which means ‘from the asshole’, so yeah. i don’t recall if padme had her name changed, but ‘amidala’ sounds a lot like ‘amigdala’ which is ‘amygdala’.

Possessed said:

https://youtu.be/Y2YRq5q5xHc

Video of everybody’s favorite Possessed performing in front of his local Walmart for a fundraiser for a children’s hospital. He only played about 20 minutes because he did it on his lunch break from work but he got 80 bucks in donations in that time. Not too shabby! There’s a few more videos if anybody wants to see them.

(The random skips in the video are because the person who I got tyne video from recorded it for snapchat)

wow you’re amazing!

i was asking for darthrush’s rotj in my first day. i’m one month and a half away from completing a 1 year anniversary! 😃

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

i get what you’re saying but i don’t think it’s that much of a jump to go from a direct complement of the OT to an indirect one.

I’m not sure future canon should complement the OT at all. There are certain elements that make up the universe, but for once I would like to see a story completely divorced from the narrative trappings of the OT.

any story set in the universe is going to complement the OT one way or the other by at the very least expanding the universe. that’s my point.

i get what you’re saying but i don’t think it’s that much of a jump to go from a direct complement of the OT to an indirect one.

DrDre said:

Moving away from the whole ST debate, I think the bigger question is, whether Star Wars will be able to move beyond the Skywalker Saga? For over four decades Star Wars and the Skywalkers have been more or less synonymous in the movieverse.

it’s interesting because when i think of ‘Star Wars’ i think of the original, then of the star wars trilogy, and then of the complements of that story. what dom said above is something i think several of us think. the OT is Star Wars, as in that is Luke’s story, the main story. that’s what it was about. the PT is how the status quo of that story came to be and the ST is just a continuation. so in a way Star Wars actually ended in 1983 (or even 1977 to some) and the rest is complement. i don’t think it’s going to be hard to take the further step of focusing on different stories set in the same universe. i think it’s going to be something like what Fantastic Beasts was to Harry Potter.

to be fair i don’t think the ST has mistreated leia or luke*. she’s great in TLJ when she’s awake and all (except for the part she basically loses all hope in her son - there goes the family theme…) and she’s okay in TFA. luke’s arc in TLJ is the best in the movie and probably the best part of the movie to me, even if i think that him attacking ben in the hut that night goes strongly against everything that happened in rotj, so yeah. han though… imo he suffered because it appears to me that jj was like “hey i liked han solo in the original. so did the fans. how about we bring that character back?” and so he did. oh well.

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

Collipso said:

the mcu is really fan service focused, while star wars is not.

just compare the last two huge MCU and SW installments: Infinity War and The Last Jedi. one is a fan service fest, the other is an indie director’s vision of the continuation of a story not really caring about what the fans think. i actually admire the latter attitude a lot more, even if i dislike TLJ and really enjoy Infinity War. but that IW was much better received by fans and general audience alike is an undisputable fact, so SW does probably have something to learn from the MCU in regards to audience reaction.

I don’t think IW was a fan service fest. The heroes lost, and 50% of them died. It featured a complex villain with moral ambiguity.

After 18 movies with next to zero deaths and very few complex villains, I’d say those were the two things most fans were clamoring for. I don’t want to go too far off topic, but I thought both of those elements were executed poorly and felt very fan servicey to me.

Which is fine of course, but unlike TLJ IW did not divide its fan base. I agree the MCU is too heavy on the fan service, but so is Star Wars, and most franchises these days.

i agree. take TFA for example. nowadays it’s a lot more criticized than upon release by fans due to the nostalgia goggles coming off for some (read: the ones that only liked it due to nostalgia don’t anymore). TFA was extremely fan servicey too, but with a specific target audience. i wasn’t in this target, so the fan service side of it didn’t impact me at all. and i unfortunately really dislike it nowadays. goes to show that not even fan service is flawless.

the mcu is really fan service focused, while star wars is not.

just compare the last two huge MCU and SW installments: Infinity War and The Last Jedi. one is a fan service fest, the other is an indie director’s vision of the continuation of a story not really caring about what the fans think. i actually admire the latter attitude a lot more, even if i dislike TLJ and really enjoy Infinity War. but that IW was much better received by fans and general audience alike is an undisputable fact, so SW does probably have something to learn from the MCU in regards to audience reaction.

DominicCobb said:

Star Wars has been dividing fans since Empire. Considering the passion fans hold for this series, and its nature as an ever expanding and evolving mythology, each new installment is bound to cause a considerable stir no matter what. Everyone would be a lot happier if they stopped getting so angry about the things they didn’t like and just ignored them, and instead focused on the things they did like. No need whatsoever to stress about things “not fitting canon” that way.

i agree.

DominicCobb said:

Star Wars has been dividing fans since Empire. Considering the passion fans hold for this series, and its nature as an ever expanding and evolving mythology, each new installment is bound to cause a considerable stir no matter what. Everyone would be a lot happier if they stopped getting so angry about the things they didn’t like and just ignored them, and instead focused on the things they did like. No need whatsoever to stress about things “not fitting canon” that way.

i agree.

Mocata said:

DrDre said:

Mocata said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Okay, this is where I stop, because all of this is 100% “I don’t like the ST so I’m going to rail against it and find every avenue I can to attack it” and not a discussion of keeping canonical cohesion of a saga across multiple decades and filmmakers. Which is the discussion I was hoping to find when I opened this thread.

I’m amazed this thread is still going, but thanks for the break down of what is really going on in all of these monolithic quote trees. Not liking the ST is fine. But claiming the real reason they don’t work is because they don’t follow the prequels enough is just bonkers. Nobody was going to pay however many millions to invite comparisons to that debacle. Things that leave a bad taste need a strong pallet cleanser after all.

The problem of this divisive approach is that it has resulted in two trilogies that have left a bad taste in a large subsection of the fanbase. It seems with each trilogy the fanbase is shattered further rather than united under one unifying vision that is satisfying to OT, PT, and ST fans alike, whilst bringing new fans into the fold. While I’m not a fan of the ST, I’m actually more concerned with LFM’s inability to create such a vision, and not to greatly piss off some significant portion of the fanbase. The disdain expressed by the different subsections of the fanbase towards each other seen in articles, on youtube, and in this thread, whether it be OT fans, PT fans, or ST fans is a testament to that failure.

Sure some people don’t like what was done so far in the new trilogy. But to say that these films are the problem and not the prequels seems more than a little odd.

he’s saying both trilogies are the problem because they were both divisive. or at least that’s what i got from it.

Even if you don’t enjoy them they at least try and fit the “SW Feel”.

to you.