Collipso

I have to wake up in 5h and 20m. Great.

I still don’t know why that makes TLJ better than RotJ in any way. Luke and Vader were the only characters that still had something worthwhile to do character wise because Han and Leia’s character arcs were done and they decided to take the safety route with them while going very risky with Vader and the Emperor. Apparently you think that that makes TLJ superior to RotJ. Ok, good. Am I correct? Is there more to it?

DominicCobb said:

Collipso said:

How do characters having almost no impact on the plot of the movie improve the movie? I mean, why?

There is more to a movie than plot. Movies are not created for the sole sake of a Wikipedia plot summary.

I agree

This is to say nothing about the fact that they do impact the plot.

I agree if you’re talking about Poe, but not about Finn. Still, both of them got a lot of good character development which is a lot more important.

How do characters having almost no impact on the plot of the movie improve the movie? I mean, why?

lovelikewinter said:

I sometimes have a hard time telling when people are joking online. There should be a font for that.

I was thinking that the Last Jedi has the same issue Return of the Jedi has. The parts dealing with the Force and the Skywalkers are amazing, but it does leave the other characters a bit out of the loop. Rian tried to give Finn and Poe more to do than Han and Leia in ROTJ.

Well, Han and Leia in RotJ are crucial to the plot of that movie, very different from Finn and Poe in TLJ. Then again, the movies weren’t trying to do the same thing in terms of characters - but I’m not sure if that works as an excuse for TLJ.

My mom’s pizza is pretty good. We have a pizza oven and every Sunday we have homemade pizza for dinner and it’s delicious. My second favorite pizza would be a pizza I ate in Milan, and my third favorite a local pizza place’s pizza. I dislike Domino’s with all of my strengths though - pretty much the fast food of pizza and it’s trash. Sometimes it’s good, but I only have it once a year or less.

ChainsawAsh said:

TV’s Frink said:

Neither do I!

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a perfect film.

I would actually make a serious argument for Raiders of the Lost Ark.

To be fair I’d also make a serious argument for TESB, but you can definitely pick it apart more than RotLA.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

ray_afraid said:

TV’s Frink said:

Handman said:

I watched both when they were in theaters. I enjoyed both, but expected Boyhood to swamp all the awards, so rooted for Birdman because I felt it was the underdog and more entertaining. Boyhood was an experience, but one I wouldn’t really want to revisit.

Dek Rollins said:

Handman said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Everything is a product of its time.

But some more than others. I once again point to how Superman, although made 10 years earlier, ends up being much more timeless.

I mean, you may not be wrong, but you can’t tell me that Superman doesn’t ooze the seventies at some moments as well.

Fair enough. I guess what I’m trying to say is Batman feels like a movie of its time rather than a Batman movie, while Superman feels more faithful to the character. Superman is the first thing I’d point to if someone wanted me to explain the character, while Batman isn’t. It’s still a solid movie and I really enjoy it to this day.

Well as I’ve said multiple times already, it’s a Burton movie. And by extension it’s not a Batman movie.

Batman isn’t a Batman movie? I don’t quite follow what you’re saying here.

Have you seen it?

It’s not a Batman movie, it’s a Burton movie that happens to have Batman and happens to star The Joker.

It’s technically a Batman movie but presumably you get my point now.

Which (live action) Batman movies then are actually Batman movies and not just Martinson/Burton/Schumacher/Nolan films that happen to have Batman?

You might as well say Superman: The Movie was not a Superman movie but a Donner movie that happened to have Superman. Every director flavors their movies with their own style, so I’m not sure what the point is of Burton’s Batman not really being Batman.

If anything, you should say that about Shumacher’s films and not Burton’s.

I was going to answer but since you only gave me 19 minutes before you bitched that I hadn’t answered, now I’m not going to.

That’s a shame because I was actually quite interested in what you were going to reply.

ALLOL

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The world’s last male white rhino died today.

Diversity in the animal kingdom is important, hope they can preserve the species.

How are they going to do that? The last male died - there are only 2 females left. Unfortunately the species is probably going to be extinct.

I too prefer Batman. Then again, I find Superman (the character) to be somewhat boring.

This is a great thread! Great news all around! Happy for both of you, coffee and ray. Especially you coffee, I feel like what you’re going through is very important and I’m glad you´re coming to terms with yourself. Like others said, my most honest ‘good for you’. 😃

The link isn’t working for me…

Mocata said:

oojason said:

‘The Last Jedi cinemagraphs’:-

The sea being a different colour on the right is bugging me.

Great! Now I can never unsee it!

suspiciouscoffee said:

“Allow me to introduce you to Ceti Alpha V’s only indigenous life form. What do you think? They killed 20 of my crew, including my beloved wife.”

ALLOL

DominicCobb said:

You lost me at “scientific perspective.”

he’s not talking about real world science though.

agreed. not only that, my statement doesn’t change or goes against anything mfm said, i was just saying.

hillary was shit too though

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/19/us/boy-shot-sister-over-video-game-trnd/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

yay let’s make guns easier to acquire!!1!111 2nd amendment!!1111 muh freeedomzzzz!!1

Thomas Phelan, 45 years old, hero at 9/11 - saved hundreds. Died of cancer. RIP 😦

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/18/us/ny-firefighter-911-death/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

wow that’s astonishing. TLJ is really beautiful.

Hal 9000 said:

Collipso said:

Are all the v5s going to be made available in the usual place over at reddit?

Yes, of course. Ep2 soon and a fixed Ep3 after that. Encoding takes a while.

no worries! thank you so much for everything!

Are all the v5s going to be made available in the usual place over at reddit?

TV’s Frink said:

Rian said it’s not interesting?

Don’t answer, I seriously don’t care.

Oh come on Frink, you know exactly what he meant. But fine, sorry for answering.

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Tobar said:

lovelikewinter said:

Why do people give a crap about Snoke?

Because he destroyed Luke’s Jedi Academy by seducing Ben Solo to the Dark Side? How is that not interesting?

Because Rian says it isn’t.

Lol no.

DrDre alone has gone over that countless times on the TLJ Review thread. Do we have to discuss that again?