Class316

I am on a mission to craft the “perfect” edition of Fantasia. For most of the video, there’s blu ray. For the Sunflower scenes, I got an HD film transfer. This can be inserted in the blu ray footage.

This leaves audio. The best edition for audio is this release: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/03733/1236-CS/Fantasia:-Special-Edition

Not only does it feature Deems Taylor’s voice, but the LD audio is closer to Fantasound than the DVD (blu ray audio mix completely destroyed it)

Is there anyone here with the ability to get me that? Would appreciate this so much. Thanks!

Yes I noticed. Maybe I should have kept a shot of the palace at the end of the youtube footage. But then the transition might look worse unrestored palace then restored palace. Also, on the DVD the end of the sound of Orko disappearance shows up on the shot of the palace. Overall it’s not too bad. I was shocked with how well the transition worked out in the beginning.

Here is a VHS rip of that episode, 100% complete: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vdmgkpygxdxl83q/Diamond Ray of Disappearance.m4v?dl=0

I didn’t use that footage as it looks rough, but you can compare how this is to mine.

Anyone is encouraged to improve this.

The Masters of the Universe episode “Diamond Ray of Disappearance” is actually missing almost 50 seconds of footage in all DVD releases. As a result all torrent, youtube, and other online releases of this are missing that footage. Check out this youtube video for the info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJ-lxlMsHI&t=17s

What I did was take that youtube footage and insert it into the DVD rip I made of this episode. And thus I’ve got the complete version!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lhiJ8g9jvi9CSfStBfhKTDf_pert55_n/view

Here’s some stuff for everyone.

First off, The Three Little Pigs with completely uncensored Jewish disguise and original dialog. To be clear the US Silly Symphonies DVD release has censored footage and altered dialog, whereas the European version restore the footage but still retains the altered dialog. This version is a European DVD rip with the original wolf dialog (complete with a Yiddish accent) restored!

For those who don’t know:

original dialog: “I’m the fuller brush man, I’m giving away free sample”

altered dialog: “I’m the fuller brush man, I’m working my way through college”

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qvFCW6mS8xJlgTOClkJW4xhzwW6tjiEC

Next up, Mickey Mouse The Castaway. This was released in the 2004 Disney Treasures release “Mickey Mouse in Black and White” volume 2. About two minutes into the short, it has a few seconds of footage missing showing a box washing ashore. The missing footage’s audio is still present, hereby desynching the rest of the short.

I had a HQ mpeg of an unrestored version of the short that I obtained years ago. The missing footage from this mpeg was inserted into the DVD version. Sadly the unrestored footage is cropped. Due to this, when it transitions from the unrestored footage to the restored DVD footage, the box appears to shift to the right.

The audio in this fix is 100% DVD audio since as mentioned, the missing footage’s audio is still present in the DVD. Also, the audio is now fully synched in this fix.

I have included the unrestored mpeg if anyone wants to try and improve the release. Even better if someone has a better source to replace it with.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h0KgtYwKDGosJ4Kr3tU9kJGAmx_6xOng

And finally, this censored Sunflower scenes in HD! I can’t believe I managed to obtain these from someone. Didn’t even know they existed in this quality. Anyone is encouraged to try and clean them up and re insert them in Fantasia.

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Tatder said:

No, European 2000 DVD (UK included) had shortened Deems Taylor intro but with Corey Burton redub !

Somebody can send me a MP for the Uncut Fantasia of Myspleen ?

Damn. You sure?

What is MP?

Go on my spleen and search “fantasia” it’s the fourth result you can’t miss it

From what I can gather it’s basically the 2000 US dvd but with the censored scenes restored.

If it had the shorter intros with Deems voice it’d be the perfect release.

Hello. I was the one that sent him that. For the record I don’t have any Disney laserdiscs. I only have DVDs that were copied from some LDs. In this case I had a MMM DVD that was copied from the Japanese laserdisc. So I clipped that scene and sent it to him to see if that could be inserted into his version. I also happily retired my Japanese LD copy after discovering the Doctor M restoration. I’ll be using that MMM and the R2 UK DVD of Melody Time till Disney releases them uncensored on blu ray.

I want to add that for a recorded VHS the scenes look mighty fine.

On the topic of Fantasia, myspleen has a version that restored the Pastoral scenes but still has Deems Taylor dubbed. Sadly I can’t find anyone who can get Deems out of this laserdisc: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/03733/1236-CS/Fantasia:-Special-Edition

I’d honestly be willing to purchase that off of ebay if anyone can help.

If Deems can be put into that restored version on myspleen, it would be the “perfect” Fantasia. Here is the description of the one on myspleen:

This was my attempt some years back at restoring the cut shots of Sunflower to Fantasia. The dual-layer DVD result as seen here incorporates those shots into the main film as taken from the original late-2000 DVD release. Full chapters, menus, bonus features, two audio commentaries and the end credits that were added for the earlier Laserdisc release are all included here. The main elements of the film – the audio tracks and 99% of the video were – if I’m recalling my work on this correctly – NOT REENCODED OR COMPRESSED in any way shape or form… thus the dual layer nature of the beast. Fantasia is one of my favorite films of all time and I wanted to keep the quality as high as possible to provide myself with something I could watch on a regular basis without being pissed off at the censorship.

UPDATE! Wow I just discovered something by accident. The 2000 UK DVD actually has original Deems Taylor intro, according to this: http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/11/17/fantasia-anthology

Regarding the “V2 Disney’s Song Of The South [35mm Restoration]” of SOTS on myspeen, has anyone noticed that the audio is a little desynched? It uses 35mm footage with audio from the BBC HD broadcast.

LHSmarchingredcoat said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352067172820
Is this helpful to anyone, possibly to restore censored footage?

My spleen already has a version up that restores the footage. It basically inserts it into the 2000 DVD.

Only problem is no Deems Taylor in that version

SKot said:

I don’t know myself, but I’m certainly interested in finding out. So far my searches of sources have turned up nothing.

–SKot

I’ve never seen one. I’ve just seen DVD rips.

I do have the laserdisc myself but no equipment or knowledge to copy it. I found a place that would do it for $50 perhaps if people chip in we can make it happen?

Personally I could care less about the CGI. IMO a cut that restores the laserdisc using best possible material would be the “ultimate” edition.

towne32 said:

Class316 said:

THX-1138 1971 Theatrical (Unspecialized Reconstruction based on 16mm)

Is there a better one?

The latter for some reason has the vomit blu ray ending.

Probably because I was going off of the ‘movie censorship’ website changelist, which really only mentions the text color. I think I adjusted the rest of the color as well, but I don’t recall perfectly well, honestly. There was definitely not a high quality looking source for the end sequence, at the time.

The edit is a relatively rough (but still decent, and still time consuming to make) attempt. So there are tons of imperfections. Thanks for taking a look, though. I think you’re the first person on OT besides myself to mention it. The main reason for it is indeed simply to have a film that lacks the barfy CGI moments, while having the bulk of it intact as decent quality video.

I agree it’s pretty good overall.

Here is how I think it can be improved though. First off as I mentioned the ending. Honestly if you don’t know a bird is supposed to fly through the screen I don’t think it’s even noticeable on the blu ray ending. And that’s just one issue with that ending. So if you take the ending on this version: THX 1138 - Japanese LD preservation and replace it you already improved the 1971 theatrical release.

Then perhaps take that new version (with ending replaced) and make the minor edits required to restore the 1978 “George Lucas” release.

Marxism said:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VHS-Video-THX-1138-Robert-Duvall-Donald-Pleasence-Timecode-Sample-/172498125717?hash=item2829b08395:g:THAAAOSwnHZYhjBw

There is a VHS of it here which looks like what they would play at Blockbuster or something
Wonder which version of the film it is…

Anything VHS and LD would be 1978 cut.

These are the two releases I got from myspleen:

THX 1138 - Japanese LD preservation

THX-1138 1971 Theatrical (Unspecialized Reconstruction based on 16mm)

Is there a better one?

The latter for some reason has the vomit blu ray ending.

So far no good version exists on DVD, and it has never been released on blu ray.

Now there is the Criterion laserdisc which is the only home version to have ever been authored under the supervision of Leni.

Anyone know if that version has ever been ripped?

THX11384EB said:

Class316 said:

But is there a version that basically does the exact same thing as that 1971 restoration but restores the 1978 version as opposed to the 1971 release?

From what I remember, and what was established here in a few posts, the 1971 release is the same as the 1978 re-release. Am I mistaken?

As stated, similar yes. But not exactly.

Also, this restoration seems to take the ending from the blu ray which is an eyesore. The laserdisc ending is MUCH better. You can hardly see the bird flying by in the blu ray ending.

I am still looking for this. Anyone? Looking for the original that was generated via the European short and original audio. It’s not on myspleen (that I could find)

I found this version of mspleen:

Thanks to AMPS, poita, and AntcuFaalb for the wonderful release of the THX-1138 1971 theatrical 16mm scan.

This is a 720p reconstruction of the color film based on that scan of the, as far as we know, original version of the film. It is synced essentially frame by frame to the scan, with minor accommodations made once or twice.

This reconstruction (which is not despecialized, but unspecalized as to not mislead people into expecting Harmy level quality here) contains the 16mm audio track. Video is sourced from the Blu-ray and from csd79’s wonderful cleanup of the LD. With some pestering for advice from DrDre on the OT forums, I’ve used the Infognition SR plugin to upscale the LD to 720p. It looks decent at times, but there are a few shots that still stand out quite a bit. The upgrade is no where near what his SW script does. The Blu-ray color timing has been adjusted in different ways to try to better mesh sources as it is strongly tinted blue at times. Thanks to age, who produced LUTs for adjusting the Star Wars Blu-ray color timing. In some dark and blue scenes from this film, they work as well.

Container: mp4
Video: 720p H264 (Blu-ray / LD / 16mm)
Audio: AAC (16mm)

Runtime: 1:26:05

So basically this is the 1971 “studio” version. Now I also found on myspleen laserdisc rips, this is the 1978 “Lucas” version.

But is there a version that basically does the exact same thing as that 1971 restoration but restores the 1978 version as opposed to the 1971 release?

Ok I’m sure that exists here but I could not find a “search” feature here. So my apologies in advance.

Now I obtained this version on myspeen based off the 2000 DVD:

This was my attempt some years back at restoring the cut shots of Sunflower to Fantasia. The dual-layer DVD result as seen here incorporates those shots into the main film as taken from the original late-2000 DVD release. Full chapters, menus, bonus features, two audio commentaries and the end credits that were added for the earlier Laserdisc release are all included here. The main elements of the film – the audio tracks and 99% of the video were – if I’m recalling my work on this correctly – NOT REENCODED OR COMPRESSED in any way shape or form… thus the dual layer nature of the beast. Fantasia is one of my favorite films of all time and I wanted to keep the quality as high as possible to provide myself with something I could watch on a regular basis without being pissed off at the censorship.

The guy did an awesome job on this release overall. No idea why the 2010 blu ray wasn’t used instead but I’ll take it. Only thing is he did not restore the original voice of Deems where available.

Is there a version that takes this uncensored release and restores the intro from the laserdisc?

I found this version of mspleen:

Thanks to AMPS, poita, and AntcuFaalb for the wonderful release of the THX-1138 1971 theatrical 16mm scan.

This is a 720p reconstruction of the color film based on that scan of the, as far as we know, original version of the film. It is synced essentially frame by frame to the scan, with minor accommodations made once or twice.

This reconstruction (which is not despecialized, but unspecalized as to not mislead people into expecting Harmy level quality here) contains the 16mm audio track. Video is sourced from the Blu-ray and from csd79’s wonderful cleanup of the LD. With some pestering for advice from DrDre on the OT forums, I’ve used the Infognition SR plugin to upscale the LD to 720p. It looks decent at times, but there are a few shots that still stand out quite a bit. The upgrade is no where near what his SW script does. The Blu-ray color timing has been adjusted in different ways to try to better mesh sources as it is strongly tinted blue at times. Thanks to age, who produced LUTs for adjusting the Star Wars Blu-ray color timing. In some dark and blue scenes from this film, they work as well.

Container: mp4
Video: 720p H264 (Blu-ray / LD / 16mm)
Audio: AAC (16mm)

Runtime: 1:26:05

So basically this is the 1971 “studio” version. Now I also found on myspleen laserdisc rips, this is the 1978 “Lucas” version.

But is there a version that basically does the exact same thing as that 1971 restoration but restores the 1978 version as opposed to the 1971 release?

I do not have an account on that site but I have the Silly Symphonies with the edited wolf/audio would love the original that was generated via the European short and original audio.

can Anyone help me out?

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