Class316

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EPho3nix said:

This is absolutely not worth it, 13k for a film print is insane. Only place that gets anywhere near that amount of money is thestarwarstrilogy forum and even then this is a ludicrous price.

Has a print like that ever surfaced? To my knowledge no. Making it rare.

Out of curiosity what would you consider to be reasonable for something like that? Maybe the seller would accept a 5K offer if that is reasonable? I don’t know much about purchasing prints like that. So enlighten us.

This is an amazing find! A seemingly good and clean copy of the early 90s transfer of Fantasia in 35mm! Basically like the one that’s in the library of congress.

All available 35mm scans of Fantasia are old and rough looking. But this one is relatively new and based on the screenshots looks clean.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156438630456

As you see it towers 10K. If money can be pooled to save this for future scanning and preservation that would be a good start.

Who is interested?

Hydra Spectre said:

Is it okay if I can PM the 2010 Swedish (Dolby Digital 5.1, 640 kbps) and Italian (DTS 5.1, 1,509 kbps) dubs to anyone who is interested in hearing if they are good Fantasound 90 recreations?

Until someone gets a hold of the Japanese Blu-ray, either dub (preferably the Italian one if it does have the untampered Fantasound 90 mix) would do good for the main audio (with the LaserDisc being used to patch the dialogue).

Why would you think they have Fantasound 90 recreations? I would think they are the same mix as the 2010 US blu.

Can you please release the uncensored scenes in HD for A Goofy Movie.

hharlan23 said:

Well, didn’t you see the reply I made back in March 3rd?

Right now there’s no plans to change it. Feel free to have at it.

hharlan23 said:

Have you color corrected the Blu-ray footage?

Blu ray footage color is actually close to 35mm.

hharlan23 said:

Yeah, but, it wasn’t on Internet Archive. It’s only the Laserdisc restorations. If those projects were finished, you would send them to Google Drive and give us links.

Not google drive or archive but I sent you links to everything.

hharlan23 said:

Can I see some screenshots of your restoration?

Didn’t I send you links to the vids?

I don’t think you’re supposed to be posting this here. But this one uses a low quality source for the uncensored video.

Since this thread was made I’ve long had this restored using the version from the R2 DVD (which has uncensored video) and inserting the original audio.

ThiscouldbeR2D2 said:

I feel devastated that we’ll probably never get this.

Right?

At least release the uncensored scenes in HD if you’re not going to release the whole thing. Then we can have some fan restorations.

hharlan23 said:

Can you send all 3 versions of the Special Edition of Fantasia onto either Google Drive or Internet Archive?

Internet Archive tends to delete them.

Doctor M said:

I did find the Disney+ download to be 4.54 GB, but audio track is identical to what Class316 posted (AAC 2.0 at 125kbps). That said, the Blu-ray is Dolby Digital 1.0 at 96kbps. Reminds me of their crappy Darby O’Gill audio track.

So you’re saying the Disney+ download has the same audiotrack as the DVD?

thebiggerpictures said:

There really is no need for Disney to “sanction” anything as this was not intended as a public release.

It served as an educational springboard for our team to learn and grow on several of the restoration softwares on the market, provide a demo reel for the team members involved and help create and find jobs post pandemic. We chose this film to work on during the Pandemic because it’s a joyful film that is often ignored and had an organic (relatively untouched) if ultimately problematic Blu-ray transfer.

In short, this was done as a love letter to the director and the cast/crew - and we didn’t expect it to garner as much attention as it did.

We are of the opinion that the film should be properly restored again in 4K from its original camera negative (even if the original capture method was flawed) and its original 4.1 (encoded as 5.1) sound mix should be able to easily be expanded to Atmos or 5.1/7.1 without the use of AI technology.

While the director and sound mixer are happy with that restoration, we are now able to go far beyond what was accomplished at that time.

Can you at least publicly release your uncensored clips of the 3 scenes that were censored on the blu so we can have fan made projects to restore those scenes?

Disney won’t sanction it.

chris585 said:

Hey there! I just got into this topic, because I had seen Fantasia a couple of weeks ago for my very first time, and that was on Blu-ray. Thanks to the commentary I got aware of the censorship and now I’m here. So I would be more than pleased if I also could get a link to this amazing work of restoration. Thank you so much!

What commentary? On the blu ray?

ChrisFratz said:

I wish there was a version that had the racist stuff cut. I’m just here for the LD fanatasound mix set to the high quality BD footage. I do have the BD myself so I guess I could make the change for myself. Could I get access to copy of this please?

If you’re here for cut stuff you took a wrong turn. Disney plus is that way. And Peacock is over that way.

Disneyfan93 said:

Could you post this on Archive.org?

They take it down.

Why would anyone want to preserve a censored version? If anything these should be flushed away into oblivion.

littlejoe416 said:

Lol at anyone to putting words in my mouth or sticking up for song of the south, an unnecessary and indeed unfortunate association with Disney to say the absolute least. If no one ever saw this film again I’m pretty sure the world would be just fine. Feel how you want but don’t act disingenuous and shocked when someone wants to detract from it, it deserves it.

All this is your personal opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. For some people, it’s worth their time. For you, it isn’t. No one is forcing you to watch it, don’t try to say others shouldn’t watch it. Whoever is offended by it, don’t watch. Whoever feels it’s worth their time can enjoy it. Plain and simple.

There are also plenty of movies I feel aren’t worth my time while others feel otherwise.

imsorrydave2448 said:

What’s even more hilarious is Disney has a G rated movie they made in the 2000’s on Disney Plus right now that has the n word with the hard r twice, the k slur for black South Africans, and has a black South African get his ass whopped by a white waiter lol.

Out of curiosity what movie are you referring to?

littlejoe416 said:

Also technically nightmare before christmas and also unfortunately song of the south

unfortunately???

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Clarification - this print is an Italian print. It did not come with English DTS discs (I do not have those and lack the knowledge to process the raw disc file even if I did.)

Italian audio is optical stereo, which will certainly stand out if plugged into English DTS.

If anyone has the English Cinema DTS and wants to sync it to the BD/this scan (same timing), feel free.

I’ve heard that some later 35mm restrikes had the chanting removed as well. And of course being an Italian print, you’re not being censored visually (digitally added people in the orgy) like the US.

Correct me if I’m mistaken, but by the time it got to Europe the chants were already removed. So any Italian audio you have should be censored. Right?

Penti Mento said:

You guys keep saying “censored” but I assume all you mean is the religious chants have been removed/replaced as in all subsequent video releases of the flick, correct? You’re not talking about, like cursing bleeped out, etc? I’d like the original audio as I saw it in the theater too, but it was replaced by his estate, and it’s not egregiously different than the original.

Correct. And whether or not it is much different is opinion. There should be two tracks so people can choose.

stwd4nder2 said:

No need for any of that, we have the Cinema DTS discs with uncensored audio

Even better!