Citizen

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Post: #144066
Topic: Info: Hips' titles - La Costa Nostra - The Complete Godfather Epic: 1901-1980
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/144066/action/topic#144066
Time: 1-Oct-2005 10:18 PM

One of the more easy trilogies to edit together into a single film would be Back to the Future - and could look ok on a dual layer disc if encoded with a high number of variable bitrate passes, although you might do better to use the NTSC DVDs because I have a suspicion they did not so good audio pitch correction on the PAL DVDs...

Post: #143831
Topic: ***Citizen's NTSC DVD/PAL DVD/XviD Info and Feedback Thread***
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143831/action/topic#143831
Time: 1-Oct-2005 11:47 AM

Originally posted by: segaflip
Any plans to make artwork for the set???

Yes, once I've finished the trilogy transfer I'll do the case & disc artwork, using the same hires source face images I used on the main menus.

Post: #143622
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143622/action/topic#143622
Time: 30-Sep-2005 8:49 PM

Originally posted by: segaflip
By the way

DAMN!!! Great transfer!!
Thanks, you can see why I spent so much time doing the 5 times capture & merge method to get the cleanest capture possible with the hardware I have, I got the idea from reading up about the X0 player, how it has 5 NTSC processors and merges the output to reduce RF inteference.

Originally posted by: DarkGruson
Now, I am trying to create an ISO of the DL disk but it fails everytime. DVDdecriptor can not make an ISO or anything else from this disc.

My burner can't successfully do dual layers as I found out much to my annoyance (and wallet), what I sent you was the best burn out of 6 discs and even that failed on verify after burning with DVDDecrypter

Any ideas?

Ask segaflip for a copy of two discs containing the NTSC dual layer ISO I sent him? they'll get there much quicker than if I send you them.

Post: #143524
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143524/action/topic#143524
Time: 30-Sep-2005 6:36 PM

About 1h 10m:
PAL ANH layer change occurs at the beginning of the scene where the guard in the holding cells says "Where are you taking this...thing"
NTSC ANH layer change occurs at the beginning of the scene where the guard in the holding cells says "I wasn't notified, I'll have to clear it"

I'll update my info/feedback thread with that info.

Post: #143506
Topic: Info Wanted: an Original Trilogy preservation project with French audio?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/143506/action/topic#143506
Time: 30-Sep-2005 4:43 PM

I was thinking about re-authoring my trilogy when it's finished, just the PAL single layer versions, removing my upmixed 5.1 448kbps track and replacing it with the French 2.0 at 224kbps & German 2.0 audio at 224kbps, the menus/title text/intro scrolling text/alien subtitles would still be in English but it would have 3 different language tracks and the video wouldn't have to be re-encoded to accomodate the new audio tracks.
I haven't checked but I get the feeling that the French & German audio have had pitch correction applied to them which would make the music/sound effects on the English track sound a bit higher in pitch because it comes from the Definitive Collection and hasn't had pitch correction applied.

Post: #142901
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142901/action/topic#142901
Time: 29-Sep-2005 8:10 AM

Moth3r, drop me a line with your address and I'll post you the NTSC single layer ANH (and PAL if you want, but you probably wouldn't like the audio pitch increase

), it's probably best you do the capping/resizing to keep things consistant, I don't think you'd see any real difference between single & dual versions if you're compressing the still to jpeg.

Post: #142630
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142630/action/topic#142630
Time: 28-Sep-2005 10:44 PM

I couldn't really say, I've only seen AOTC about two times but seen BR too many times.

BRMovie.com is probably a good place to start on the world of Blade Runner.

Post: #142600
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142600/action/topic#142600
Time: 28-Sep-2005 10:29 PM

Very much so, to paraphrase Daryl Hannah, many films have ripped off aspects of it over the years and some people might not believe those aspects came from Blade Runner, that it was the 'original'.

Post: #142594
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142594/action/topic#142594
Time: 28-Sep-2005 10:26 PM

Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Does this movie have a large following?

*cough* *splutter*

No, just one or two people ;-)

Post: #142584
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142584/action/topic#142584
Time: 28-Sep-2005 10:19 PM

People have been crying out for an official original version and special edition version (similar to what you suggest) of the film on proper DVD for literally years, but it's tied up in legal issues, one of the copyright owners is playing dog-in-a-manger

Post: #142576
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142576/action/topic#142576
Time: 28-Sep-2005 10:08 PM

You've.....never.....seen.....Blade.....Runner.....? my god man, get hold of it ASAP!

There are two main flavours, the DC (1992 directors cut) and OV (1982 original theatrical version) with a few differences between them, but both equally good IMHO. The OV has a couple of extra violence scenes, a voiceover by Deckard (Harrison Ford) and a sappy ending whilst the DC does away with those leaving you with an amazing film, especially with the Vangelis soundtrack he created just for the film.
The DC is on official DVD (out of print in the UK) but was one of the first films put to DVD and the picture quality isn't so great, whilst OV has only been released on VHS/laserdisc - hence the various DVD transfers of the LD.

Post: #142552
Topic: Blade Runner Covers
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142552/action/topic#142552
Time: 28-Sep-2005 9:50 PM

Those covers look great, when I've finished my SW trilogy transfer I'm going to transfer the 15gb HD DD5.1 BR DC capture to PAL & NTSC DVD because the small 30 min test disc I did looks stunning, it makes the official DD2.0 BR DC DVDs look like VHS transfers! and with the high quality 1920x1080 res of the HD capture it means I have some good source material for making a custom cover

Post: #142360
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/142360/action/topic#142360
Time: 28-Sep-2005 2:43 PM

segaflip, in the post to you right now are a 4 flavours of ANH; NTSC dual layer ISO on 2 discs, NTSC single layer, PAL dual layer ISO on 2 discs, PAL single layer. The NTSC dual layer ISO was posted last Friday with a failed dual layer burn so you can see the quality (playback sutters at the beginning of the 2nd layer), the others 3 were sent today.

*clears off finished ANH material from harddrives to begin work on ESB*

When I've completed the trilogy I will probably ask help for getting a PAL dual layer set of my own, I burnt a PAL dual layer ANH disc last night and predictably it failed verify when it got to the 2nd layer, the resulting burn in my DVD player stuttered a bit when it got a few mins into playing the 2nd layer but not during the layer change. I have 3 blank dual layer discs left and won't try burning them on my Pioneer 108 as they'll just fail again.

Post: #141895
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141895/action/topic#141895
Time: 27-Sep-2005 8:26 PM

dark_jedi, I haven't done ESB or ROTJ yet, about to start on ESB very soon as I've now completed all the versions of ANH.

Keep an eye on this thread: ***Citizen's NTSC DVD/PAL DVD/XviD Info and Feedback Thread*** as I update it as things are finished.

My burner doesn't like burning dual-layer discs and haven't had a successful burn yet

(hence my making the single layer ones so I can watch them), to get the dual layer version out I've rar'd up ISO onto two discs for whoever receives them to roll-their-own copy. See my sig and drop me a line about aquisitions.

Post: #141834
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141834/action/topic#141834
Time: 27-Sep-2005 6:33 PM

Thanks for the report

I knew you'd be able to tell the difference between the dual layer and single layer versions on your big screen setup for the fact that the mpeg2 video on the single layer version is 3.46gb whilst on the dual layer version it's 5.98gb. Did you find the two 'hidden' buttons in the menus of the dual layer version? don't tell where they are yet before others have had the chance to find them because you're the first to get an NTSC copy.

I've just this evening finished the dual layer PAL version of ANH and will be posting a copy out to segaflip tomorrow, menu/chapter/video/content wise it's pratically identical to the NTSC version.

But there's a small dilemma, do I send him the single layer PAL & NTSC versions of ANH too? I did them because it was very easy to do and copying them is quick, cheap and easy unlike dual layer discs that take and age to burn and cost a bomb (and can really make you swear when they coaster), it'll be a total of 72gb for the single layer & dual layer of the PAL & NTSC trilogy.

Post: #141562
Topic: .: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141562/action/topic#141562
Time: 27-Sep-2005 1:43 AM

Originally posted by: Observer
If I were to walk into a store and pick up DVD R+'s, how would I know if they are single or dual layer?

Easy, dual layer discs are usually TEN TIMES the price of single layer discs.

Post: #141298
Topic: Blade Runner - PAL and NTSC - jedi/feta (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/141298/action/topic#141298
Time: 26-Sep-2005 5:54 AM

Out of sheer curiosity, take a look at this still of the same frame, but from the HD broadcast of the DC version:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/BladeRunnerHD.jpg

and also the R2 DVD DC version:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/BladeRunnerR2.jpg

edit: and while I'm about it, from my transfer of the Criterion OV LD:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/BladeRunnerOV.jpg

Post: #140451
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140451/action/topic#140451
Time: 23-Sep-2005 1:29 PM

DarkGruson should be receiving his copy of my dual layer NTSC ANH any time now so hopefully some feedback from him

I've posted segaflip a copy too so if all goes well it'll appear on a.b.starwars in just over a week's time.

Been quite busy this week so SW has taken a small breather, this weekend I'm going to set to and complete dual layer PAL ANH, everything's encoded just need to author. Then once I'm satisfied with the PAL disc I set to on ESB transfer next week, with 14 hours of digitising involved...

Post: #140441
Topic: <em><strong>The Official Dark/Sega Special Collection</strong></em> OT LD Release Thread (Not an SE Transfer) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/140441/action/topic#140441
Time: 23-Sep-2005 12:25 PM

COR!!!

This trilogy has to be one of the best NTSC sourced transfers I've seen to date, despite some issues with the hue, colour bleeding & compression artefacts, the image clarity and brightness/contrast is very good, what's more this has to be the first laserdisc transfer that doesn't exhibit any of the temporal smoothing that plagues all the other widescreen SW laserdiscs (French, German, Definitive, Faces) I've seen. Nor does it appear to have the interlacing jaggies problem the Definitive and Faces collectiion has where some detail is completely lost through removal of lines.

What do I mean?

No temporal smoothing, the Cantina, look at the edge of the right creature's head:

Cropped German THX PAL capture (only colour/brightness adjusted):

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDark1.jpg

Cropped Dark/Sega Special Collection DVD still:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDark2.jpg

No serious jaggies problem like the Definitive/Faces set, the war room:

Cropped Definitive Collection capture:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDark3.jpg

Cropped Dark/Sega Special Collection DVD still:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDark4.jpg

I'd love to get my hands on the laserdiscs used for this Dark/Sega set one day, this is the video they should have put on the Definitive Collection!

Post: #139502
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139502/action/topic#139502
Time: 19-Sep-2005 3:33 AM

Things are (as usual) taking a bit longer than I thought, just started encoding the PAL mpeg video today, so another couple of days, once finished I'll send the PAL & NTSC dual layer versions to segaflip, rar'd onto single layer discs for reliability.

I've been watching the NTSC version too much the past couple of weeks and now I'm watching the quick PAL version I did a while ago with the audio pitch increase it's like everyone's on helium, argh I got used to the original pitch! but I really couldn't get used to the 3:2 pulldown, now that is horrible, nothing like watching a space fight where none of the ships are moving with any smoothness...

Post: #139112
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139112/action/topic#139112
Time: 17-Sep-2005 1:47 AM

I've now created a no-extras single layer NTSC ANH, audio/menus are exactly the same as the dual layer except video is 7-pass 4100kbps avg instead of 4-pass 7100kbps avg, I'm not seeing any significant picture quality drop of the single layer compared to the dual layer on my 28" widescreen tv, but I'm sending both discs to DarkGruson so he can see the two versions on his big rig.

Now I have the drive space I'm encoding the PAL version of ANH, should be cleaned/encoded/authored by Monday, dunno about burned though

Post: #139078
Topic: Help: looking for... 'From Beyond' - available on laserdisc or preservation project?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/139078/action/topic#139078
Time: 17-Sep-2005 12:16 AM

I got the VHS of it, one of the better horror movies to come out of the 80s I thought, it is available on laserdisc if you can find it. Wouldn't mind getting a better quality version on DVD or the laserdisc.

Always best to take a look at LDDB.com if you want to find out if a particular title is on laserdisc, IMDB isn't so up to date.

Post: #138971
Topic: ~~~Segaflip's Newsgroup Posting List~~~
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138971/action/topic#138971
Time: 16-Sep-2005 2:36 PM

Because my ISP only gives me 10gb/month with 2 connections max that only go at 16kb/s, I bought 20gb from shemes.com as a tryout because of the search facility built into GrabIt, quite pleased with it so far but Astralweb's prices look good, buying search from shemes and downloads from elsewhere might be better solution.

Post: #138967
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138967/action/topic#138967
Time: 16-Sep-2005 2:12 PM

segaflip, I'll put the dual layer image across a couple of single layer discs and post them to you, I don't know when because I can't get out to the post office (I hate being ill like this, can't do squat

), which also means I can list stuff on eBay & post the items to make some money to pay for new discs.

s7en, I ruled out Nero for this task because as far as I can tell, you can't set where the layer change happens which is very important.

Post: #138929
Topic: .: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/138929/action/topic#138929
Time: 16-Sep-2005 8:50 AM

I've started encoding the film at 4100kbps 7 pass and going to make a single layer ANH disc tomorrow when the encoding has finished, then going to test it against the dual layer burn that almost works, if I can't see any real quality improvement by using dual layer instead of single layer I'm going to go single layer because it's significantly cheaper and easier to work with.