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#132523
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<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132523/action/topic#132523
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From the NTSC versions I've seen (Dr Gonzo, Editdroid, Cowclops v2) they aren't I feel are clear enough to be displayed on a projected screen and look good, the NTSC testing I did of my own definitive LDs looked ok (a little clearer than the 3 aforementioned sets I have) but none of the NTSC source versions stand up to the PAL transfers for image clarity. The detail just isn't there on the NTSC LDs, especially the jagged edges on horizontal/near horizontal lines of the definitive set.
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#132520
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.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132520/action/topic#132520
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For the NTSC release I've got the 2.0 audio, 5.1 upmix audio, 2.0 commentary audio (normal 2.0 audio which fades out to the commentary parts so no long silences), re-encoding the mpeg video (avg 7500, 8500 max) which leaves 1gb for the extras I've got to capture and do the menus.
The PAL version will be fairly quick to do once I've finished the NTSC version (just a few days) as I'll have almost everything prepared for it.
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#132235
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Info: PAL LBX: there's another one... a '78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/132235/action/topic#132235
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d

http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=2742
The lightsaber is not like that on the definitive set.

I took that picture from my raw capture of the Definitive collection.

*confused* I thought it was just the Faces set that suffered split sabers?, my Definitive collection isn't like that:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDefinitiveSaber1.jpg
http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsDefinitiveSaber2.jpg

IIRC you have the version without the 7 secs of Leia welding? my version has that intact, that may be why there's a lightsaber difference.
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#131798
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131798/action/topic#131798
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pupil, in terms of picture detail there will be very little difference between the PAL & NTSC versions because both are from letterboxed source and are being upscaled, but playback on a normal tv there is a noticable difference, namely the (god-awful) 3:2 pulldown applies to the NTSC version means smooth motion is ruined.


I was thinking about doing a single layer release but looking at the logistics of it means I'd have to make 12 different DVDs; 3 single layer PAL with no extras, 3 dual layer PAL with extras, then double those for the NTSC - too much work! so I'm only doing dual layer versions with the extras. The only major problem with using dual layer discs is I can't freely give out copies because of the absurd price of blanks (between £2 and £4.50 per disc).

Preview of the details:
-film video will be encoded at 8300kbps multipass VBR
-3 audio tracks; unaltered 2.0 at 224kbps, upmixed 5.1 at 448kbps, and commentary at 224kbps because I'll overlay the commentary onto the normal audio in such a way that the normal audio is faded down when there's commentary (no long empty silences!)
-each disc will have a film specific easter egg, along with the extras from the definitive LDs

I sorted the problem of having to place text over the faces, I just shift them to one side slightly and put the text on the right decided to use those same images for the disc labels and the case covers, keep everything simple and within the same theme.


(still wish I had an extra 100-200gb more hd space...)


edit: P.S. anyone up for some wookie jazz?

http://www.haku.co.uk/b3ta/ChewyCello.gif I think Stimpy's into it... http://www.haku.co.uk/b3ta/Stimpy.gif as well as Ren http://www.haku.co.uk/b3ta/RenSmash.gif
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#131647
Topic
Info: PAL LBX: there's another one... a '78 UK release of a PAL LBX LD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131647/action/topic#131647
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Originally posted by: Karyudo

The DC is of exactly the same vintage as Faces. The transfer is identical. If the master tape still existed, it'd probably have 'Definitive Collection / Faces Master Tape' written on it in Sharpie.

They may come from the same master but the video on them is not the same, see the split sabers images from the faces set in this thread:

http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=9&threadid=2742

The lightsaber is not like that on the definitive set.
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#131464
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131464/action/topic#131464
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Been working on the background images for the main menus of my set.
The clarity of the fullsize images I'm working with is great, Luke looks a little grainy but still clear enough and I had to re-do his eyes because he wasn't looking dead forward in the original image.

In order; ANH, ESB, ROTJ:
http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsMenuBackground1.jpg
http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsMenuBackground2.jpg
http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsMenuBackground3.jpg
I'm not looking forward to having to plaster menu text over them...

Currently at the moment working on the NTSC version of ANH, decided on NTSC before PAL because Moth3r has already released a good PAL version and I thought it time a good NTSC version was released
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#131152
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X-Factors - Blade Runner Project (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/131152/action/topic#131152
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Originally posted by: digitalfreaknyc
I couldn't disagree more. I've done a lot of recordings in both xp (1 hour) and sp (2 hour) on my recorders and the 2 hours are always worse than the one

But don't standalone DVD video recorders use fixed bitrates for recording in such modes? so you can't really compare that to encoding & burning on a PC which can do multiple pass variable bitrate encoding to ensure the picture quality stays even throughout and the bitrate is automatically upped/lowered according to the complexity of the image being encoded.
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#130542
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/130542/action/topic#130542
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I'm not preserving the pitch, I couldn't find any software that was competant enough at time stretching whilst preserving pitch, they all introduced glitches into the audio so I decided I'd rather have undamaged but slightly faster audio than damaged but correct pitch audio.

The wav file I use for the PAL DVD is for 23.976fps footage and I use BeSweet to increase the playback speed for 25fps whilst encoding to AC3, there's zero problems with audio sync by using BeSweet to do the speedup, once you've synced the definitive wav audio to the PAL capture - took me about 3 hours, going through it almost scene by scene...
I've now done a test disc of ANH with 2.0 audio, looks and sound great. I'll be doing a 5.1 upmix of the 2.0 audio soon, then work on menus/chapter points etc. (the annoying bit of making DVDs ), it'll have 2.0 and 5.1 on the disc.
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#130340
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Info Wanted: are there any lossless masters of ld captures?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/130340/action/topic#130340
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Originally posted by: roweezy
so if the community is blessed with something like this, would those with expensive collections suddenly have worthless junk? i dont think so.

I do think so, there are a growing number of laserdiscs becoming near worthless in the 2nd hand market because of the bootlegging of laserdisc-to-DVD transfers being sold on eBay as "import" discs, import? yeah they're imported straight from your harddrive onto a printable DVD-R...
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#130273
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Info Wanted: are there any lossless masters of ld captures?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/130273/action/topic#130273
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I capture with a good analogue to DV device, but in the case of Star Wars I capture each side of the laserdisc 5 times then merge them together to reduce RF noise in the laserdisc player and connecting video cables (it definitely works) and save the merged DV files as huffyuv, but forced to YUY2 because the resulting files are notably smaller than RGB compression, I know it looses some quality but the source is DV anyway and I don't have the HD space for RGB compressed files.
A full 2 hour PAL film capture of ANH without the unnecessary top/bottom black bars compressed to huffyuv YUY2 takes up roughly 30gb, not really the kind of size you'd happily post to or download from usenet, it would ideally be distrubted on harddrive or failing that a pile of DVD-Rs.
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#130247
Topic
Dr. M's Reinventing The Wheel Edition (PAL to NTSC+) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/130247/action/topic#130247
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Originally posted by: Karyudo
...the guy who did the PAL session clearly cropped a bit tighter than the NTSC guy...
This is I think the main reason why the starfields look so much better on the PAL version.

I don't think the tighter cropping is the main reason the starfield looks better on the PAL LDs, the line removal on the NTSC LDs is to blame I feel - the line removal is one of the main reasons I bought the PAL LDs.

Besides, the scenes on the PAL LDs aren't always cropped tighter, just slightly different in some cases (slightly up or down compared to the definitive LDs)
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#129887
Topic
Info &amp; Help: looking for... other ld-rips to dvd movies ex. blade runner int cut, songs of the south, frighteners dir cut - and much much more...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129887/action/topic#129887
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Originally posted by: Ash595
Originally posted by: eDroj
is anybody interested in the movie ROBOT JOX... it is out-of-print right?


not anymore soon.

announced by MGM for an october the 4th in region 1

Well there goes another of my laserdiscs consigned to the "worthless now it's officially DVD released" pile, oh well it does have burnt-in Japanese subtitles anyway
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#129764
Topic
Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129764/action/topic#129764
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Uusing the ITU-R BT.601-4 doesn't really change the relationship between PAL & NTSC (both 4:3 and 16:9), if you input letterbox PAL values you'll get virtually the same results for PAL/NTSC 4:3/16:9 outputs as with the previous aspect ratio calculations, it's the relationship between 4:3/16:9 and 1:1 resolutions that change, you get a more true PC aspect ratio when converting PAL/NTSC source to PC.

The checkbox is an option I'm intending to impliment in a future revision, you can still access the first version here if you need it: http://www.haku.co.uk/ARCT1.0.html
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#129724
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129724/action/topic#129724
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Ta-daa!

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsSubtitleTest.jpg

Now currently encoding ANH mv2 file, I've got the audio perfectly synched up and 5.1 upmixing tests have gone well so now it's just a matter of waiting for the PC to do the video encoding and then work on the audio (long process and 6gb+ of harddrive space). I'm half expecting I'll be re-encoding the video all over again as this is still a test run.
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#129663
Topic
Info &amp; Help: looking for... other ld-rips to dvd movies ex. blade runner int cut, songs of the south, frighteners dir cut - and much much more...
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129663/action/topic#129663
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PPOR.

I walked into that one didn't I

Ok, is this level of geekiness proof?

This was my previous watch (the strap disintegrated but it still works), I had to re-solder the 5 connection wires between the infra-red themoscanner sensor (point the watch at something and it'll tell you the temperature) and the watch's circuitboard to fix it, each wire the thickness of a human hair:
http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/CasioThermoscanner.jpg

Previous to that I had a thermometer watch and my current watch is a calculator/remote control.
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#129649
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/129649/action/topic#129649
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Nevermind! I found some code that almost did the job and then hacked it up to work for my meagre needs:

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# OverPic
#
# Allows you to overlay an image at specific coordinates over a specific frame range,
# suitable for DOGS (Digital Onscreen Graphics, ie horrible tv channel logos) but was
# specifically written to overlay a small amount of subtitles in bmp form into the
# black border of widescreen video.
#
# NOTE:
# Image masking not currently supported, may add this in the future.
#
# PARAMETERS:
# start, end : The frame range to apply the image to.
# thepic : The image filename to overlay.
# picx, picy : Where to overlay the image onto the video.
#
# USAGE:
# OverPic(253, 311, "subtitle.bmp", 100, 511)
#
function OverPic(clip c, int start, int end, string thepic, int picx, int picy)
{
Assert(start >= 0 && start < c.FrameCount(),"PicSub: start frame out of bounds: " + String(start))
Assert(end >= start && end < c.FrameCount(),"PicSub: end frame out of bounds: " + String(end))
logo=imagesource(thepic)
c1 = c.trim(0,start-1)
c2 = overlay(c.trim(start,end),logo,picx,picy)
c3 = c.trim(end+1,c.framecount())
return c1 + c2 + c3
}

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This is an example of how I'm using it in a script, the code placed after the function:


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video=avisource("4PAL2.avi").addborders(0,65,0,65)

video=PicSub(video,1235,1255,"sub1.bmp",0,511)
video=PicSub(video,1301,1334,"sub2.bmp",0,511)

return video

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Now to make the subtitle images and find out what frames to place them in, then I can encode the PAL DVD of ANH!