Chewtobacca

Here are screenshots of the Goldeneye BD.

see you auntie said:The frame cropping doesn't help either.

Forget the cropping.  I read on reviews comparing releases all the time that one of them is "cropped".  No; they're both cropped.  They're just cropped differently.  Almost all releases are cropped, in the sense that you rarely see all the information on the negative.  (And I'm not talking about Super 35 and open matte here.)  The fact that one transfer has a little more picture information than another is inconsequential.  Without comparison screenshots, no one would ever know.

 

In all likelihood I'll get Raiders too, to complete the trilogy, and make the HDTV rips less immoral.

That's my plan too.  :-)  I recently bought the SW BDs to watch Harmy's v2.

Bingowings said:  Trip number one is to a general practitioner.

Yep, for the purpose of getting a referral to a private specialist.  General practitioners are useless when it comes to this sort of thing.

McFlabbergasty said: you are a male with an acne problem.

That can't help either.  Try cutting dairy products, but make sure you have an alternative calcium source.  Also, when you have the money, try to get a doctor to prescribe you Tretinoin gel (0.01% to start and 0.025% if necessary in time).

I can't really add anything to what the others have said about your life in general, but PM me if you need more advice in respect of the above.

hairy_hen said: I can't speak definitively on every aspect of Raiders' appearance, but I can state with absolute certainty that the DVD version is not always completely faithful to the original look of the movie. 

I fully agree.

I'm not saying the new transfer doesn't have flaws or hasn't been manipulated digitally, but unquestionably it is closer to the original colour timing than previous editions.

That's far from unquestionable.  The Japanese HDTV is based on a very recent scan and has a warm look in a number of scenes without going to the extremes of the BD, which seems to look most unnatural.  I don't doubt what you are saying about the red, and I'm no fan of the DVD transfers, but I refuse to accept that ROTLA could have looked the way the BD does in 1981.

jero32 said:

New mix, doesn't that kinda prove that this was an officially made print then? I mean it can't be bootleg if they have a new mix in there.

I don't follow the logic.  Surely an official print with a new mix can be bootlegged just like anything else.

^ Yep.  Someone almost always says that, which is why many on Blu-ray.com take the you-can't-judge-the-film-by-previous-home-video-releases line, which is rarely what people who bring up previous releases are trying to suggest.  What they are usually trying to say (less eloquently than the poster I quoted above) is not that the previous releases were 100% accurate, but that the film is in question never looked so blatantly manipulated and unnatural in terms of color before, and they have a hard time believing it looked so theatrically.

A poster on hometheaterforum.com has just explained very well (post #373) the problem I have with the way films are given new color timing these days. 

Look at the two frame grabs of the marketplace and boat scenes and analyze them by those three attributes. The shade is varied. Some colors are mixed with white, some with black. Lots of contrast. Now look at the saturation. Some colors, like the red robe in the markeplace scene are saturated, and some are muted. In other scenes, that red dress is extremely brilliant in fact.

Now look at the hue. Even though those are two completely different locations and times of day, the hues are identical. There is a reddish hue that is in the dress and fleshtones, a sandy tan hue in the uniforms and buildings, and a teal blue that is in the knife blade, ocean and the shutters in the background. Three hues. No more. Just varying shades and brilliance using the same three hues. If you watch the whole movie looking for this, you'll eventually realize that there are very few deviations from these three hues.

That's how I feel about the colors in the majority of remastered films.  I'd go further though and say that I often see the same hues crop up in different films.  I remember watching the remastered BD of Lethal Weapon BD a while back and thinking, "I've seen that digital-looking yellow before -- not a similar one: the exact same one."

The Aluminum Falcon said:  I might venture a guess that it is, in fact, the most accurate of the three HD transfers.

I might too.  TOD and TLC apparently look virtually identical to the previous Japanese HDTV versions in terms of color.

@patman

I am not sure which HDTV version is being used for the various comparisons that are being bandied around; I think it's one of the older ones.  If the Japanese HDTV version were used, it might help the case against the new color timing that is being made over on Blu-ray.com and the Home Theater Forum.

Darth Mallwalker said:

 

I read the news today! (Oh boy)

 

Thanks, DM.  I'll see if I can pick up a copy of today's paper.

the original formulation of Sebamed Moisturizing Body Lotion

The new one is not as good.

Bingowings said:

Anchorhead isn't a settlement he is a man.

Brilliant!

I like the way that the TWOTS played out and would like to see a serious edit in which Vader is not Luke's father and Luke is not Leia's brother.

And what happened to Davnes' avatar?  I didn't think that ever changed.

EDIT:  Ah, it seems there's a Bond theme going on.

The Aluminum Falcon said:  Yes. They did a third transfer. The first was the Lowry one done at 2K (presumably) then processed at 1080p; it showed on HDTV for awhile

That must be the source of the Canal+ HD version then.

Around 2008/2009, Laserpacific made a transfer of Raiders scanned at 4K then processed at 2K; it's the magnificent one with the original color timing that has been showing on HDTV for awhile.

If anyone really has a problem with the color timing of the new BD box set, it's a simple matter of getting the 2008 HDTV Broadcasts. The timing is relatively similar to the Lowry, and it's available in really high HD quality (on the scale of 20 GB something captures).

This must be the Japanese HDTV version, which is probably what I'll stick with, as it's very good (16.2 GiB) and it looks as if I'll be unhappy with the new color timing.  It's a shame that there's no LD audio available to go with it.  (Skyjedi, the hardcoded subtitles appear only a few times during the film, at times when there are English subs on the screen anyway, and they're not too distracting.)

There are many screenshots here.   One thing I really don't like is the color of the Nazi banners in the shots near the end. The yellow look makes them appear orange.  The Japanese HDTV version is somewhere in between.

Mavimao said:  Plus the benefit of having a H.264 encode would be wonderful as well.

That's true, and it's a good idea.  Of course, one doesn't have to upscale to use h.264, even if the intention is to burn the result to disc.

EDIT:  Ah, I've just seen your subsequent post with the screenshots.  I didn't realize that the 720x480 you mentioned didn't have black bars.  Upscaling a little would make sense then.

Congratulations on releasing the DVD, Puggo!  I look forward to seeing it, when it eventually makes its way to newsgroups.

ROFLRICK said:Has anyone noticed the cropping that is occurring on both the right and left sides of the frame? This is not present in any other version, and as best as I can tell, it is actual cropping. Information visible on the MKV, AVCHD, etc. is seemingly missing on the DVD-5.

It's not.  The eight pixels of black bar on either side of the image are nominal analogue blanking.  No cropping has occurred.

CatBus said:I'm not really sure throwing more bits at MPEG-2 SD content would improve matters that much.

I tend to agree.  As this is really quite grainy, there would certainly be some improvement, but it wouldn't look that much better.

Darth Mallwalker said:I wouldn't need to ask those tough questions--
if you would post an NFO file! :D

hahaha lol. :-) I figured everyone knew what it was so I didn't bother.  Perhaps I'll add one next time.

Darth Mallwalker said:

Noticed the Smoking Wookiee DVD5 (based upon DeEdv2) contain a 448 track.  I wonder if that one is 'official' from the lossless sources, or if the Wookiee shrunk it himself from 640? (or maybe it's the old version?)

Aw, come now, DM.  I've too much respect for quality to do either of those things. :D

It's a shame to hear the news about the v2 448kbps version though.  I confess that I checked the disc in terms of video and chapter stops and the like but didn't really listen to the 5.1 because I care only about the '77 stereo and the mono mixes.  I'm sure h_h will release a fixed version soon.

I'd use dual mono too.

Laserschwert said:

Oh I see... alright, that'd definitely be nice IF it stays 100% BD compatible...

*shrugs*

Theoretically, it should be compliant.  I've burnt BDs that have been run through VideReDo before and they've played fine.  For personal use, I couldn't care less about 100% compatibility because if the result plays, it plays.  But then again I hardly ever burn discs, so...

Laserschwert said:Uhm, yeah, that's a tool to edit H.264 files... am I missing something here?

You can add in your German crawl and smart render from VideoReDo without recompressing the whole thing, and the result should still theoretically be BD compliant.  That's what I'd do.  You might have remux to M2TS first; I don't know.  It's been a while since I've used it.

Laserschwert said:I want to do it because I'd like to add a German crawl and German Greedo subs.  If re-encoding the MKV proves to be a viable option, I'd definitely go that route.

VideoReDo

Mavimao said:  thank you Chewtobacco for the conversion!

You're welcome.

Hal 9000 said:Does anybody happen to know the source for the 1977 stereo mix used in this release?

The source was Belbucus' PCM.

The par2 files in the original uloz upload should not have been made into a separate rar archive: they should have just been added to the upload "loose", as it were.

Anyway, this is incredible work, Harmy.  I thought I'd watch it just for the colors, because, as you know, I don't like the 2004 SE that underlies most of this, but you did everything so well I could almost have believed it was a new transfer.  I'm really impressed.  Oh, and happy birthday.

Airwave said:He'd have to remove some audio tracks.

I already suggested that in my post.